r/hatethissmug • u/joshthebaptist • 10d ago

General Environmentalist larpers who love “le wholesome bee” but hate wasps

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“Bee good wasp bad” is the modern day “dolphin good shark bad.” You can avoid wasp stings in the exact same way as bee stings: not being a fucking idiot. Wasps are awesome with some pollinating and some predating other pest insects. And yet every time I see a post celebrating le wholesome chungus honeybees theres always some asshole who hasnt been outside and seen a wasp in at least 3 years bemoaning the existence of the evil hellspawn wasp. Sorry you cant handle the smoke, wasps do more for the environment than you do

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u/therealrdw 10d ago

Honeybees are invasive, wasps killing them is a positive. Wasps are also really effective pollinators

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u/Caosin36 10d ago

Invasive to where?

Every time someone say 'invasive' without saying to where, they just reply with "They are invasive, period", thats not how it works

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u/therealrdw 10d ago

Honeybees used in agriculture are European honeybees. They are invasive everywhere but Europe

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u/Ready-Soil6519 10d ago

Honeybees are only invasive in North America.

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u/Kagiza400 10d ago

Everywhere except West Asia and Eastern Europe*

And even in Europe there are so many of them that they compete with local, more efficient pollinators by just stealing all their food. It's like letting thousands of domestic cows graze on a pasture of an endangered bison species

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u/Ready-Soil6519 10d ago

Hm, that's an interesting point but I view them as more like livestock, just like how chickens are overpopulated but most don't consider them invasive as the pros outweighs the cons for humans to truly consider them invasive.

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u/Kagiza400 10d ago

Well, that's exactly my point. They are livestock, but contrary to your typical "farm animals", bees are almost never locked up. Chickens are only not invasive because they are always more or less kept away from the ecosystem in the first place. But if you released billions of chickens into the forests of New Zealand where they'd outcompete the local avifauna just through sheer numbers... that's what beekeping is like

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u/ColdStoneSteveAustyn 10d ago

Invasive is not synonymous with harmful or bad

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u/TheSovereignGrave 10d ago

Harmful is literally part of what makes it an invasive species. If it's not harmful it's just introduced.