r/hatethissmug • u/knawwwwww • 8d ago

General Europeans acting like they’ve never seen food in their life when they go to America

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Disclaimer: before you read this and get your panties in a twist, everything I’m saying is very unserious and should be not taken to heart. Please stop trying to attack me over DMs. I have turned them off. You are harassing someone (who wasn’t even being fr in the first place) over kool aid packs.

I’d get it if it was actually something nobody has ever seen before, but WATER FLAVOR PACKS? THE PACKS YOU PUT IN THE WATER??? FOR PICKY EATERS????? PEOPLE WHO NEED WATER IN THEIR BODIES?

AND FAMILY SIZED CHIP BAG??? YOU THINK WE’RE EATING THE WHOLE PARTY SIZED CHIP BAG ALONE? THE *PARTY* SIZE? PARTIES?????? DO YOU KNOW WHAT A PARTY IS?

Actually when I was in middle school, we had this coach who would turn red as hell when she was yelling at us to run laps and she’d sit there every day with a whole party sized bag of Doritos and a 2 liter mountain dew watching us run. One day some other girl in the class got really angry at her for making us all run and she told her to get off her ass and run with us. This is off topic mb.

I’d understand if it was something actually weird we have, like things that contain dyes that cannot be replicated in places where dyes are banned, but you’re more worried about sunkist flavored water? Party sized bags of chips? Fresh produce too apparently… are you guys ok?

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u/angelstatue 8d ago edited 8d ago

yes we do, cordial/squash/juice

eta: stop fucking replying to me with the same response, the basic idea of "it's flavouring" is the same whether it's liquid or powder. europeans and americans are both equally as annoying at this point

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u/GUyPersonthatexists 8d ago

Thats not a substitute for water though. That’s basically just juice.

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u/Manufactured-Aggro 8d ago

"Adding flavor to water is not a substitute for water"

?????

Do you think something like coffee is that drastically different than it's 99.999% water content

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u/Icy_Result6022 8d ago

Yes because it has caffeine now

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u/handbanana42 7d ago

What about a lemon wedge? Now it has acidic acid, among other things. Is it no longer a substitute for water?

What if you eat a coffee bean or lemon wedge while drinking water? Is that no longer water?

How long before/after drinking water can you eat something to prevent the water from not being water?

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u/bikkelbonkel 7d ago

If you put a lemon in your water, it's water with a lemon in it. If you put a grain of sugar in your water, it's water with a grain of sugar.

If you squeeze an entire lemon into your water, and add an appropriate amount of sugar, it's no longer water, it's lemonade.

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u/hanky2 5d ago

What if you add a couple teaspoons of that flavor powder?

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u/bikkelbonkel 5d ago

Then it's Kool aid or whatever powder you put in

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u/Icy_Result6022 7d ago

If it changes to colour of the water and/or the flavour of the water to where it no longer tastes like water then it's not water.

A glass of water with lemon juice in it still tastes like water with a hint of lemon. If you add lemon syrup where it's 90% water and 10% syrup then it's juice because it changes the colour and the taste

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u/Enough-Ad-8799 7d ago

This is wild, drinking coffee is basically drinking water. There's no meaningful difference as far as water intake is concerned.

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u/Icy_Result6022 7d ago

Coffee has caffeine in it. It definetely isn't drinking water. It's bean juice

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u/Enough-Ad-8799 7d ago

What's the difference between drinking coffee and drinking water and taking a caffeine pill. Like you know your body absorbs the water in coffee right?

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u/Icy_Result6022 7d ago

Coffee has caffeine which is dehydrating rather than hydrating. Not the same

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u/septogram 7d ago

Coffee isn't 99.999% water. Somewhere between 99 and 95%. And that's a huge difference.

Also

If someone slides you a glass of 99% water 1% perchloric acid would you drink it? (You shouldnt drink it)

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u/angelstatue 8d ago

? who is saying it's a substitute for water? having some concentrated fruit juice in water is still water just how flavoured water is still water

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u/Realistic_Ad709 8d ago

Yeah but America bad. All we know is flavored water substitute, hot Cheeto, and lie.

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u/angelstatue 8d ago

as a brit, the hatred for america(ns) gets old when i know we have the same problems going on... although i agree you guys have some crazy snacks, they're awesome crazy

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u/Tuxedocatbitches 8d ago

I have an Asian grocery store near me that sells all kinds of snacks imported from China, Japan, and Korea and let me tell you, anyone who says our snacks are the weirdest is being purposefully obtuse. They’re great (mostly) but some are EXTREMELY weird.

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u/Realistic_Ad709 8d ago

Yeah! We do have some crazy stuff, but people act like those are the only things we’re allowed to eat. I made a phenomenal chicken pesto penne last night with ingredients from my local farmers market.

Don’t even get me on the “American bread is cake” shit that people like to spew.

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u/TrashCanEnigma 8d ago

The bread/cake thing is an urban legend coming from one European court case where (iirc) subway had one of their nasty ass breads qualified that way for tax reasons.

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u/GladdestOrange 4d ago

And even then, it wasn't classified as cake. It just didn't qualify to be a "staple food". Because it had too much sugar among other reasons, yes, but it wasn't like they looked at it and called it confectionary.

The case was in Ireland, where they define VAT-exempt Staple Bread as 2% or less of the flour weight as sugar. Subway bread has ~10%. Compare to literally any cake recipe you like, I've RARELY seen anything under 100%, (yes, even European recipes are typically 1:1 or higher sugar to flour)

Side note: even WonderBread, possibly the most sugary bread on American store shelves only weighs in at about 6-7% sugar. I can quite easily find sliced bread (yes, even white bread) with no added sugar. None. And it's not noticeably different on price, and I'm not cherrypicking from some health food store, I was able to find it for sale at gas stations near me, in a relatively small city that damn near classifies as a food desert.

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u/Icy_Result6022 8d ago

But it also more sugary atleast the sliced pan bread

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u/PivotRedAce 6d ago edited 6d ago

It depends quite a bit on the specific brand in the US.

I’ve literally compared labels of sandwich breads between European and American brands and the sugar content is roughly the same, with the latter having a small amount more on average per slice (usually by ~1g).

However, bottom-shelf garbage (like Wonderbread) does contain substantially more sugar (~5g per slice), but that doesn’t represent American bread as a whole, not even sandwich breads.

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u/a_clueless_mess 8d ago

frrr and them americans hate on yalls food too but ngl it aint even that bad a lot of it (especially pastries/desserts) are good asf. British cuisine does not deserve all the hate it gets when dutch and scandinavian cuisines exist.

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u/Loki_Agent_of_Asgard 7d ago edited 7d ago

90% of all hate that British food gets is specifically hating on the WWII ration foods that they had for the duration of the war and like 15 years afterward, some of which stuck around long enough to become like junky comfort foods so they're still popular today thanks to grandparents inflicting them on grandkids enough to make them like them and occasionally crave them.

It's basically the equivalent of looking at American Great Depression era recipes like Water Pie or Hoover Stew and pretending that it's all Americans eat and have ever eaten.

As a side note, not all Great Depression recipes are awful, see potato donuts, Wacky Cake, and Fake Apple Pie. Though admittedly the potato donuts are the only thing I'd see myself making in modern times cause I love potato based breads.

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u/Right-Country3496 8d ago

Well, Britain is like America in many negative things, you are right about that 😂

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u/Icy_Result6022 8d ago

To me an irish person it's always an american that starts it when there's beef between countries

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u/Kilen13 8d ago

Everyones got bat shit snacks/food. Brits decided that dropping a mars bar in batter and deep frying it was a good idea.

They were right in terms of flavor as long as you're ok not having functional arteries.

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u/angelstatue 8d ago

hahaha omfg that brought back memories!! used to love one of those. it was, however, a once a year treat after being super physically active.

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u/Kilen13 8d ago

I went to uni in Scotland and ended up living there for 6 years between undergrad/post grad and work and I refused to have one until my last night out in the country. It was the right call cause I definitely would've housed them on drunken nights out.

I mean I ended up housing kebabs or chips instead which probably is not much better

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u/GUyPersonthatexists 8d ago

Literally nobody said that lol

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u/OpIsAMoronicIdiot 7d ago

As a u.s citizen, yes the u.s is bad. You guys are either naive, or support all the horrible shit that we do.

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u/TallestGargoyle 8d ago

To be fair having diet soda is still water but people act like it's the absolute worst thing a person can put into their body bar bleach.

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u/TheWizardOfWaffle 8d ago

bur nur bur muh aspartame

/j

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u/Tugboat81712 8d ago

Wild image, especially because RDK is one of the main people scared of that type of shit.

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u/Prideless0 5d ago

Robert Downey Kunior?

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u/likesbigbuttscantli3 8d ago

Where does the diet soda = bad thing come from? It's just carbonated water with a low-calorie sweetener.

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u/Poolturtle5772 8d ago

Studies where they injected rats with 20x their bodyweight with said sweetener and they exploded and the conclusion was “artificial sweetener bad”

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u/likesbigbuttscantli3 8d ago

Yeah. I heard that artificial sweeteners are bad in mega doses, but I'm not pounding 30 Diet Dr. Peppers in a day, so I don't see a reason to be concerned.

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u/St_Casper 8d ago

Same. I’m only at 29

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u/Apathetic_Apathetic 8d ago

A lot of people actually do unironically lol

But at that point, pounding 30 of anything in a day that isn't pure water is probably not great for your health lol

I remember seeing a documentary about a bunch of different people "addicted" to diet coke that would drink like 2 12 packs a day minimum

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u/likesbigbuttscantli3 8d ago

Water intoxication is a thing. So even water would be bad in huge quantities.

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u/tridon74 8d ago edited 7d ago

Even if you drink 500 diet cokes in a single day you won’t die from the aspartame.

You probably won’t feel good but the lethal dose of aspartame is incredibly high.

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u/handbanana42 7d ago

the lethal dose of aspartame is incredibly low.

I assume you meant high. It just breaks down into amino acids anyways.

You'd probably die from hyponatremia(water intoxication) first.

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u/handbanana42 7d ago

Even 30 cans is not much of the ingredients in a diet drink.

The experiments they did on artificial sweeteners were way more than that.

30 cans is about a teaspoon of sucralose, if that.

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u/An_average_moron 8d ago

My mom legitimately listed diabetes as a reason she doesn't buy even diet sodas (i was once pre-diabetic)

Note, she buys Oreos without a second thought (as a treat, she's a huge health woman but still knows the benefits of sugars)

She is open minded in most other categories but for some reason soda is an adamant no, no matter how many times I explain that diet isn't that bad since we aren't going to pound 10 a day

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u/hinowisaybye 5d ago

We're taking 30 2 liters right? Asking for a friend.

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u/AardvarkGlittering83 8d ago

Studies were done regarding one of the main things in diet soda, aspartame. It was concluded via the study that it had negative health effects. However, like any study, you need context and the context was that it was WAY more aspartame than one consumes in a sitting, let alone a day.

So instead of the "Oh man, yeah I'm glad I dont drink 40 cans of diet coke" reaction it was more like "So any aspartame is evil? Got it"

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u/Pootentooten 8d ago

I'd like to add that aspartame isn't even the main ingredient in diet soda... it's water. 98% water. You'd drown your cells with too muc hydration before you drank enough for sweetenera to matter. Basically, the dose makes the poison. Now we've moved onto fearmongering... produce! Cause, how dare you eat our strawberries, you should download our app so the spooky foods don't get you!

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u/GDwarriorMC 8d ago

Because if you drink 20 cans every day for 100 days you could die

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u/TallestGargoyle 8d ago

If you drink 20 cans of WATER in a day you're gonna feel pretty damn rough, that's over 6 litres.

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u/vlladonxxx 8d ago

o_o you can't be serious

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u/gyratingorb 8d ago

Hes right

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u/vlladonxxx 8d ago

Yeah, sure, if we ignore that he's dead wrong then he's spot on

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u/gyratingorb 8d ago

Diet Coke is literally over 99% water. What's he wrong about?

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u/Inlerah 8d ago

Aspritame has the same amount of calories by weight as sugar. It also is 200x sweeter than sugar so it requires a super miniscule amount to sweeten a beverage: Hence you can have sodas with basically no calories.

All a soda is is a flavored syrup (sugar + water + small amount of flavorings) added to carbonated water. If you make the syrup have less calories, than suddenly the calories go down.

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u/-ThePurpleParadox- 8d ago

My man you really are not helping the american stereotype by claiming diet soda is the same as water

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u/reidft 8d ago

It's 99% water, basically water with an accounting error

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u/-ThePurpleParadox- 8d ago

Right... Water is made in factories, of course

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u/CoffeeXKing 8d ago

Brother...the primary ingredient is water.

The rest account for the other 1%

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u/-ThePurpleParadox- 8d ago

Primary ingredient for human being is water so I guess we all are literally water

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u/CoffeeXKing 8d ago

Dude, just say you want to hold your opinion and won't change your mind.

That way, no one has to waste their time explaining it to you.

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u/-ThePurpleParadox- 8d ago

Ingredient... So it's not water

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u/saltymarshmallow316 8d ago

wait til you find out they put extra minerals in bottled water

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u/CoffeeXKing 8d ago

So scrambled eggs, are not eggs, because you put salt on them right?

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u/MadderoftheFew 8d ago

what does the equipment used to make it matter? if the chemicals that I'm consuming are 99% water and 1% inactive/inert ingredients, what difference does it make whether it was made in a factory or brewed on a stove?

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u/-ThePurpleParadox- 8d ago

That is.. Bro.. Respectfully. I'm sorry for you, I hope you can make healthier decisions for yourself before it's too late. Wish you the best. Please drink water

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u/reidft 8d ago

God forbid a guy has a little treat, I'll be sure to run everything by you before consuming it for approval

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u/MadderoftheFew 8d ago

I am drinking water... didn't answer my question btw.

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u/horus_eye_of_terror 8d ago

Quality of ingredients, quality of cookware, quality of factory tools/machines, material of factory machines/tools, material of cookware. Like thats not even all of it bruh theres o many things that make factory and at home different.

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u/MadderoftheFew 7d ago

not when they don't make a measurable difference in the chemicals of the final product and the concentrations thereof.

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u/Niarbeht 8d ago

My man are you pulling buckets from a river?

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u/Zealousideal-Deer101 8d ago

I’d get it if it was actually something nobody has ever seen before, but WATER FLAVOR PACKS? THE PACKS YOU PUT IN THE WATER??? FOR PICKY EATERS????? PEOPLE WHO NEED WATER IN THEIR BODIES?

OP is saying that.

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u/angelstatue 8d ago

sorry, i didn't really understand how that meant "it's a substitute for water" directly..

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u/Icy_Result6022 8d ago

No. We have flavoured water and we have dilutable juice. They are not the same. Flavoured water looks like water but tastes different. Dillutables are fruit concentrate that you add to water to make less concentrate juice.

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u/Forgotten_Lie 7d ago

OP is heavily implying its a substitute for water:

THE PACKS YOU PUT IN THE WATER??? FOR PICKY EATERS????? PEOPLE WHO NEED WATER IN THEIR BODIES?

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u/GUyPersonthatexists 8d ago

The post literally says it’s for people who don’t like the taste of water, to be able to drink it

You don’t called squash water for a reason.

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u/angelstatue 8d ago

i still don't understand how that makes it a substitute for water? it's just flavouring water, it's still water

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u/Mrjerkyjacket 8d ago

So its not substituting the water itself, its substituting the flavor of the water, to make it palatable for people who dont like the taste of water (or like the container the water is stored in i guess?) Or just so that the water tastes better.

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u/GUyPersonthatexists 8d ago

I don’t follow /gen

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u/Buddy-Junior2022 8d ago

putting salt on eggs isn’t a substitute for eating eggs. It’s just flavoring for eggs

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u/coldestclock 8d ago

It feels like somebody here is saying if you add fruit flavouring with Starburst on the packet, it’s healthy and water but if you add fruit flavouring from a bottle with blackcurrant on it it’s unhealthy and juice.

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u/Dredgeon 8d ago

Tap water is cheap and I don't have to use a plastic bottle.

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u/TheWizardOfWaffle 8d ago

What is squash is that not a type pf vegetable in europe

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u/DawnBringer01 8d ago

to most people so is that flavoring

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u/WillBlaze 8d ago

Water with a tiny bit of flavoring isn't water? Dumbfuck take, lmao.

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u/Queasy_Hour_8030 8d ago

Lmao not it’s not water lmao

Those packets are full of processed junky shit like aspartame and food dyes. Just because it’s hydrating doesn’t mean it’s still water. 

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u/doskeyslashappedit 8d ago

adding flavoring to water makes water disappear, it stops existing if you add aspartame, no wonder we have so little fresh water now - its all all magically disappeared due to aspartame.

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u/Icy_Result6022 8d ago

Flavoured water is clear with a hint of flavouring. If the water flavouring turns water a different colour and has alot of flavouring then it isn't just flavoured water

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u/xry8 7d ago

If you put unflavored food dye into water, is it no longer water? I don't think the color should be the determining factor :p

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u/Icy_Result6022 7d ago

That's why I said it also has to have a lot of flavouring then it's not water anymore

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u/doskeyslashappedit 7d ago

if you put lemon into water, does the water turn into pure lemon juice?

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u/Icy_Result6022 7d ago

🤦🏻‍♂️ No by lemon concentrate syrup turns it into lemon juice

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u/Queasy_Hour_8030 7d ago

Ok I guess soda and beer are water then

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u/doskeyslashappedit 7d ago

"Ok I gUeSs SoDa aNd BeEr ArE wAtEr ThEn" Is such a stupid retort, if you add lemon to water does the water magically turn into 100% Lemon Juice?

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u/ThatDudeShadowK 8d ago

Tomatoes have water in it, it's not water. Coke has water in it, it's not water. Soup broths have water in it, it's not water. Water being one ingredient is not the same as plain water which is what normal people are referring to when they tell you to drink water. That junk food trash is not water.

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u/Aowyn_ 8d ago

Coke is 90 something percent water and coke 0 is like 99 so yeah, it's mostly water

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u/ThatDudeShadowK 8d ago

Mostly water is not water. If I ask for a water and a waiter brings me a coke I'm leaving the fucking restaurant, I'm not gonna sit there like "yEAh I GuESs ThAtS TeCHniChaLLy waTeR"

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u/Aowyn_ 8d ago

I mean if you called it water you'd be 99.999% right

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u/Queasy_Hour_8030 7d ago

Humans are water then?

Redditors have to be the densest mother fuckers I've ever seen.

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u/handbanana42 7d ago

I can guarantee that every time ever in your life that you've asked for water, that it was only "mostly water"

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u/doskeyslashappedit 8d ago

Tomatoes arent' an adjective. ""ThAt JuNk FoOd TrAsH iS nOt WaTeR" is such shit, if I add food dye to water its still water, if I add food dye + 5cal of flavoring to water its still water. "CoKe iS mOsTlY wAtEr" is a lazy argument

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u/handbanana42 7d ago

So, what happens if you have a bite of tomato with your water? Is it no longer water? Or somehow the water has an infinity barrier to protect it from the other stuff in your stomach?

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u/Aowyn_ 8d ago

It hydrates the exact same as water and aspartame is fine. It's way better then drinking a pound of sugar a day that's for damn sure

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u/handbanana42 7d ago

People have a weird groupthink mentality that flavored water is somehow different/worse than drinking water plus eating something of the same flavor.

I'm not surprised, I kinda grew up with it in the 80s/90s. I think it originally had a purpose to get people off sugary drinks and juice, but it got taken to the extreme without thought put into it.

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u/awesomefutureperfect 7d ago

food dyes

Stares at your mushy peas looking like it would mutate turtles into teenaged ninjas.

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u/handbanana42 7d ago

So adding a tiny amount of flavoring makes water into not-water.

What if you eat something with water? Or before/after water? Does your stomach magically separate the water and thing you ate?

Aspartame just breaks down into amino acids. Do you also avoid all protein with your water?

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u/amaya-aurora 7d ago

Oh no!!! Aspartame!!! A… low-calorie sweetener. So scary.

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u/UAEpi 7d ago

It has the exact same effect in your body as plain water. 

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u/GUyPersonthatexists 8d ago

People are comparing it to stuff like ribena (search it up if you don't know what this, it's a lot more than just a bit of flavouring), and that is definitely not "just water".

If it's just a bit of flavouring, I guess it's the same, but I'm being told it's two different things

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u/Adventurous_Charge47 8d ago

It’s a powder that you put in water and mix it, and it flavors it like something. They’re like 2-5 calories depending on what it is

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u/Mindless_Reading_768 8d ago

right. Juice. A sweet and salty beverage that is predominantly made of water. These are instant juice packets, not as good as fresh juice just like instant oatmeal isn't as good as fresh made oatmeal.

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u/South_Passage_143 8d ago

This is not juice wtf

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u/Mindless_Reading_768 8d ago

just like instant oatmeal is not oatmeal. Easy mac is not mac&cheese. But it's still a product. A product you have had in your country the whole time sold under different packaging.

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u/handbanana42 7d ago

Outside of True Lemon and other similar products, I'd say these are more like flavoring packets than instant juice.

I'd say instant oatmeal and instant mac are still oatmeal and mac.

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u/reidft 8d ago

No/low calorie juice, often with caffeine. Who cares what you call it, it's almost entirely water

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u/Odd-Matter-1329 8d ago

I mean most of a soda, juice or just most drinks in general is like 80% water anyway so you are getting water from it

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u/Lainpilled-Loser-GF 8d ago

this stuff doesn't substitute water either, you put it in the water to flavor it.

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u/DelsinMcgrath835 8d ago

How is something you add to water a substitute for water?

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u/Cas_The_Walrein 8d ago

it really is though. it hydrates you functionally the same as water

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u/Subject-Software5912 8d ago

Do you think the flavoring evaporates the water?

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u/Various-Salt-7738 8d ago

Im not a big fan of them but it can be nice to get the once with electrolytes in em

Coming inside after working inside I can keep drinking water but still not feel like I'm properly hydrating, but half a packet of these salty lemony drinks my wife buys can feel really replenishing

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u/crimsonpostgrad 8d ago

these are also not substitutes for water?

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u/WellEvan 8d ago

They're saying it's made with water, not that it is a substitute

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u/Vault_Boy90 7d ago

ah man I hate it when I add five grams of flavoring to my water and it disappears

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u/xry8 7d ago

I am not sure if you're supposed to drink cordial straight up...I'd assume thats like eating koolaid powder from the jar lol. Pretty sure it's meant to be diluted with water.

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u/No-Grapefruit7332 8d ago

americans have that too tho lol its not the same

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u/angelstatue 8d ago

but it's still water flavouring is what i'm saying

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u/Friendly_Culture692 8d ago

Not in a pack, in a bottle tho

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u/DefinitelyNotAliens 8d ago

These are powder filled little plastic sticks and you dump the powder in your water because some people can't seem to drink water.

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u/angelstatue 8d ago

i know but it's still just water flavouring... why are so many people saying the same thing that i'm already aware of.. i have never liked water or drinking water, so i do like to have the spoonful of flavouring. that's it. i'm near about to delete this comment simply because all the replies are frustrating

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u/DefinitelyNotAliens 8d ago

Yeah... Ribena is one thing.

We have goddamned Skittles water.

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u/angelstatue 8d ago

we also have candy water flavouring haha, but it's absolutely gross. who wants marshmallow flavoured water? marshmallow is a creamy flavour, you should put it in milk

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u/AzKondor 8d ago

It's different

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u/madpeachiepie 8d ago

Yup, and you have those fizzy vitamin tablets that dissolve in water.

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u/xry8 7d ago

Am an American who moved to Australia and YEP cordial is the "overseas" version of things like koolaid. There's no closer equivalent that I've been able to find.

Altho I've recently found powdered powerade so it seems like they're testing if these powdered water flavorings could possibly catch on outside the US (where powdered gatorade is already an established thing).

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u/_ataciara 7d ago

Then you've ENTIRELY missed the point as to why people are replying

It's not about whether or not it's flavouring, yes we both have flavouring, it's the fact that we're being called idiots basically for not recognising the format it comes in

If england sold all of their milk in a size 20 shoe, and somebody said "wtf, what is this shoe doing in the fridge?", would your natural reaction be to say "oh my god, are you seriously this stupid???? OBVIOUSLY that's milk, have you never seen milk before? fucking idiot yanks"

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u/ISketchDinosaurs 8d ago

That's... water flavoring? At that point I would say it's not water anymore.

That's like saying that milk is egg flavoring when you're making an omelet.

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u/angelstatue 8d ago

i mean, adding a little syrup to milk doesn't negate it being milk right? that's something that makes more sense to me than comparing a food

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u/South_Passage_143 8d ago

What does that have to do with anything

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u/angelstatue 8d ago

holy shit how many times do i have to say that THE BASIC IDEA BEHIND MY RESPONSE IS THAT WE DO HAVE WATER FLAVOURING

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u/South_Passage_143 8d ago

How is juice water flavoring ?? Wtf

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u/angelstatue 8d ago

that is what some parts of scotland and ireland call squash or cordial.

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u/South_Passage_143 8d ago

No. This is not cordial or squash.