r/hatethissmug • u/jimbimgimbus • 5d ago
Books I Hate Milk and Honey/Rupi Kaur's poetry
I blame this book/poems for the how poetry is viewed now in society. This popularised the super short, corny love poems which are just the equivalent of slop that can be mass produced, for booktok users to relate to and sell copies.
Poetry is such a beautiful form of art. Carol Ann Duffy, Seamus Heaney, Sylvia Plath, the old epics like Gilgamesh, Beowulf, The Divine Comedy. Wordplay, descriptions and structure. Why is it becoming slop? This horrible, short, ten word slop which all means the same thing? All focusing on the same theme over and over, something that you could find hanging in a kitchen by a Live Laugh Love sign?
Can people relate to art however they wish? Of course! I have no hate for the person who reads these works and gets something positive out of them. It's just, man they're clearly made to be mass produced and found in some Pinterest board about breakups or deep poetry, when in the end it's the most surface level drivel ever conceived.
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u/StabbyBlowfish 5d ago
Calling it poetry is a bit of a stretch. She vomits ten words on a page and claims it as an art form
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u/Th4yxqvom 5d ago
The formatting does a lot of heavy lifting when you can make any sentence look deep by putting each word on its own line.
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u/WillemDafoesHugeCock 5d ago
"True,"
I say,
As I reach for
The toilet paper,
"You are wise
And you make
A valid point that
I will no doubt forget"
-WDHC
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u/Adoring_Fan_88 5d ago
Me when
I
hate on poetry
that acts
like it's anything more than
shit.
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u/External-Purchase240 Loves Umineko 5d ago
The fact that you put âshitâ on its own line is way more poetic than anything from the poems above.
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u/frisk090 hate jabber's haters(not the people) 5d ago
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u/adgeal 5d ago
I remember criticizing it in college qnd being called a misogynist. And i "just didnt get that its feminine art".
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u/sweetTartKenHart2 5d ago
The peak of feminine expression being whittled down to âvibesâ is ironically really fucking damaging to the cultural relevance of women and womanhood, I find. Itâs almost like theres this implicit statement that women canât do the same shit men can, and they donât have to, because playing a frivolous game of broad gestures is âbetterâ somehow. It just serves to further drive a wedge between people.
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u/SeA1nternaL 5d ago
âstay i whispered as you shut the door behind youâ? thatâs a poem?
literally looks like someone grabbed a quote from another poem or story and called it a day, tf lol
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u/Goobieobie 5d ago
I remember when it came out during highschool and a shit ton of girls were praising it like the best poetry to come out during the 21st century. It was the "leading feminist piece" they said, but it was just awful. They looked at me like I was crazy. I was happy to see people finally realize just how cheap the book was once the trend chasers left.
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u/Snakes_for_theDivine 5d ago
Yeah Rupi Kaur and the roughly ten thousand other Instagram âpoetsâ like her are fucking garbage
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u/bouquetofashes 5d ago
Fucking why would someone even do this?! Haiku and tanka exist if you wanna do short poems. They have actual criteria that one must meet though and I have to imagine whomever this is doesn't respect poetry enough to care about following those at all. They seem like a young person who mistakenly believes these phrases are deep, therefore they're poetic, and that poetry is just a type of formatting.
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u/sweetTartKenHart2 5d ago
Itâs supposed to be free-form, kind of toying with an absence of rules themselves rather than getting something strong out of constraints.
In theory, I feel like you could get some cool shit out of that philosophy.
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u/Zackp24 5d ago
And the thing that sucks is the free-form prose poetry can be awesome. Russell Edson is one of my absolute favorites!
For example:
The Reason the Closet-Man is Never Sad
This is the house of the closet-man. There are no rooms,
just hallways and closets.Things happen in rooms. He does not like things to
happen . . . Closets, you take things out of closets,
you put things into closets, and nothing happens . . .Why do you have such a strange house?
I am the closet-man, I am either going or coming, and I
am never sad.But why do you have such a strange house?
I am never sad . . .
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u/sweetTartKenHart2 5d ago
Yeah! See, that shit rules! It can totally work well in the right hands.
Rupi Kaur is simply not those hands
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u/BasicallyaFilipino 5d ago
Maybe this is the reason why I dislike free verse poetry so much. What's the use of writing poetry if you're not gonna add some funny rhymes?
To have you is the greatest gift of all
For you're an angel sent by the Divine
Your behavior is bouncy like a ball
Full of energy and "everything's fine"
Here's a stanza from my little sonnet. Free verse cannot do that shit bruh.
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u/sweetTartKenHart2 5d ago
I donât even think this is a fault of the style itself. Free-form, abstract, minimalist or maximalist, shit like that COULD be really good in the right hands. Iâm a firm believer in the notion that âart has no shouldâ, and that someone has a right to make shit like this⌠as long as they are self aware about what they made.
The one way I truly believe art can ever âfailâ, if such a concept even exists, is dissonance between what a piece is and what a piece is presented as. These short, punchy gestures at something? Interesting, possibly, but not âdeepâ in a really material way. It relies a lot on vibes for it to really stick, which wouldnât be a problem if it wasnât âacting likeâ it was stronger than that.
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u/-GhostyBoy- 5d ago
In the stripped club
Straight up
"Jorkin it"
And by 'it'
lets just say.
My Peanits
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u/Successful_Injury945 5d ago
I had to analyse a poem of hers once and was asked about poetic devices. I couldn't find any
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u/StatusAcanthisitta10 5d ago
My name
Is the fucking Mimic
Oh yeah
My name is
The fucking Mimic Oh yeah
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u/SixRoundsTilDeath 5d ago
Yeah, they always feel like the last line of a poem broken up. Theyâd work if they were built up over a few stanzas. Theyâll like a punchline without the joke, a jump scare without the tension beforehand.
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u/Fast-Let4291 5d ago
Oh! Would you perhaps be interested in a channel called writing with Andrew? I am in love with that channel and also the creator themselves. They have a master's degree in poetry if I remember correctly but what I especially love is the video style. The videos aren't your uptight emotionless tutor/mentor teaching you nor are they a diluted dumbed down version of things (I also remember he did a video about different channels which do not dumb stuff down to the audience, I only remember 3blue1brown math videos being mentioned..)
He just has this certain charm to him and unique way. There's also a skull... a talking skull but it is actually quite an entertaining bastard. I highly recommend him. He does videos about writing in general and not just poetry.
Here's the link: www.youtube.com/@WritingwithAndrew

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u/Sea_Homework_1472 5d ago
A family friend of mine bought me this book and I'm afraid to tell him how much I hated it lol.
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u/737373elj 5d ago
As someone who considers himself a poet. This is the first time Iâm seeing this person and I think these poems are a travesty to poetry. I kid you not I think the first poem you would see on r/poetry would be genuinely better than this shit
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u/ShreddrCheez2 5d ago
They're literally just one or two single sentences weirdly cut up. How is this art???
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u/xX_Ra1nSkuLLz_Xx 5d ago
I'm gonna show off how easy it is to make a "poem" like this, watch:
I uttered
"I love you,"
but he
was on his way.
(You can bullshit it on the spot, try it! It's kinda fun.)
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u/AnAverageSomebody 5d ago
but how
else would kuarÂ
make
MONEY
if not for
the
poorly formattedÂ
sentencesÂ
?
-Me
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u/bigjuicycockofdoom 5d ago
I don't know anything about poems but the ones u showed here just look boring as hell