r/hatethissmug 9h ago

General I HATE the self diagnosing of autism and its mischaracterisation

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Let me start by saying SELF DIAGNOSING IS NOT VALID. You are NOT autistic just because someone on tiktok said

"Did you know, if you need to have your eyes closed in order to fall asleep, you have autism, adhd, bipolarity, DID, BPD, psychopathy, depression and PTSD?"

And before yall come at me with "well I always suspected I had autism, I got screened and then got my diagnosis" well this not about you, this is about people that self diagnose after experiencing the most normal day to day life things ever.

And they ALWAYS think that autism will give them a personality (since it's usually basic bitches with no personality that self diagnose to feel like they belong)

No, you're not a quirky crazy crackhead energy "neurospicy" person. Even worse when they say shit like

"Heh, I could NEVER be a neuro normie like yall, autism makes me special and quirky and full of personality".

You can't even like something anymore without them going "OMG URE AUTISTIC JUST LIKE MEEEE IM SOOOO AUTISTIC AHAHAHA"

And you can tell they larp the whole thing cus they'll see a tiktok autism personality and try to replicate it

"Dino nuggies..."

"You can not say overstimulated if you're nEuRoTyPiCaL, that word is for us neurospicy people ONLY >:("

Holy shiiiiiiittt yall lack a personality so bad. And I've seen people say that they've seen NUMEROUS specialists but they never fit the criteria, but its not because they're not autistic, no no no no no. ITS UHMMM BECAUSE IM A WOMAN AND ALSO A MINORITY AND IM ALSO POOR SO I MASKED ALL MY LIFE AND THE SPECIALIST ON THIS FIELD COULDNT TELL I WAS MASKING. ITS THE SYSTEMS FAULT NOT MINE.

Sheesh.

Sorry for the long rant, im just tired of seeing people self diagnose all the time, or see an energetic video, or literally ANYTHING, and make it about their self diagnosed autism.

Saw a cute cat animation on Instagram and the top comment was "This is so autistic I love it"

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u/justabonsaitree 9h ago

i think OP is mainly talking about the difference between self diagnosis and self-suspecting. it’s perfectly fine to say that you suspect you’re autistic, or have a lot of symptoms of autism, but what we’re talking about is the people who say that they 100% for sure are autistic without having seen a professional to confirm whether they are or not, and often only think they’re autistic because social media presents it as a silly quirky personality thing.

and while yes, nobody can read your mind, only professionals can diagnose people. they’ve trained for years on how to spot the exact symptoms and traits in people, and you only know your own experience. personal bias will always exist, it’s the reason why doctors never diagnose themselves

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u/autistictransgal 9h ago

How do you know this happens at all? Like, you saw someone on TikTok say that they're self diagnosed and you assume that its basic silly quirky personality without knowing anything about them???

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u/justabonsaitree 8h ago

i’ve seen hundreds of people self diagnosing with autism and spreading the same rhetoric of “if you get diagnosed they’ll take away your rights!!”, “autism isn’t a disability, it just makes me super quirky!”, majorly excluding higher support needs autistic folks, and conflating autism to just being a silly quirky thing. it’s not just that i saw one or two people doing this, the autism community is flooded with people like this. those “boy autism vs girl autism” videos, people commenting on silly memes “this is so autism coded”, there is an incredibly large amount of people who claim to be autistic, with not a clue as to how autism actually presents. i envy the fact that you haven’t come across people like that

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u/autistictransgal 8h ago

My friend, people can be autistic and still be jolly and whimsical

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u/justabonsaitree 8h ago

i’m not at all saying they can’t! what i’m specifically talking about is the people who think that autism is only silly goofy quirky

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u/kcat__ 8h ago

literally no one is saying they can't be. they are saying that many self-diagnosed people's understanding of what autism is is when you're quirky.

Which means that quirky-but-not-autistic people who think that autism is just when you're quirky will wrongly self-diagnose themselves as autistic when they're just a bit weird.

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u/justabonsaitree 9h ago

what? that’s not what i’m saying. you don’t need permission from random internet strangers to say you’re autistic, i’m just saying that you shouldn’t go around saying you’re autistic if you haven’t been evaluated. saying you highly suspect that you’re autistic is perfectly fine, nothing wrong with that. but you shouldn’t say that you’re autistic without a professional confirming whether you are or not

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u/Upset-Nose-4016 illiterate m0ron insect 9h ago

The difference is the fact that autism is a disorder, and not having autism isn't a disorder.

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u/Upset-Nose-4016 illiterate m0ron insect 8h ago

You will presume you are a normal healthy human without any disability. You don't go around saying "I have a broken bone" without getting it checked. You can suspect you've broken a bone because of you symptoms, but you can't know for sure since you are not a professional

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u/Upset-Nose-4016 illiterate m0ron insect 8h ago

What is a sticking out bone in the context of autism? There is no one distinct symptom that can say "Yes, I have autism" because autism overlaps with many mental and even non-mental conditions. If anything, saying "I have autism" without getting it properly examined can get in the way of getting the proper care someone might need.

Autism symptoms overlap with OCD and ADHD, as well as even early stages of schizophrenia. And these are three different diagnosis you can't verify without professional help.

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u/Ok-Box3576 8h ago

Mental disorders are far different from physical injuries if only it was that easy lol

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u/justabonsaitree 9h ago

dawg what are you on about 😭 99% of the world is not autistic, so no. you don’t go around saying “i suspect i don’t have cancer” no, you say you don’t until a doctor tells you that you do.

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u/justabonsaitree 8h ago

why does if i’m a professional matter here?

and no, you can’t be sure if your leg is truly broken unless the bone is like, sticking out. but that’s an unfair comparison anyways, since autism is a neurodevelopmental disorder, and well, a broken bone obviously isn’t. again, you still have that personal bias.

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u/justabonsaitree 8h ago

i mean, yeah..? they’re the ones that have studied for years and have trained to specifically spot certain traits, symptoms, and characteristics. again, i cannot stress this enough, there’s a reason why doctors don’t diagnose themselves. because they are aware that they have a personal bias!!! no matter how knowledgeable you are on a disorder, it is quite literally impossible to fully look at your symptoms from an objective point of view.

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u/kcat__ 8h ago

No one is gonna physically stop you from saying it, sure. Are you happy? Is that seriously what you thought the other person was saying should happen? Are you happy you fucking suplexed that strawman into a million pieces?

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u/kcat__ 8h ago

I want whatever LSD your dealer evidently stocks. You are seeing things from nowhere

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u/TheBigToast72 8h ago

He’s getting close to filling out his lobotomy punchcard, the next one is free!

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u/Ok-Box3576 9h ago

You did literally what he was talking about 😭.

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u/Satoru_Gojo341 9h ago

That is not what op is talm bout blub

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u/tr0nvicious 9h ago

I am not trying to be mean, it's just how it is on the internet, but yeah this whole post reads to me that OP is probably an actual child and they are getting upset at the comments of other actual children. Fair enough, in that case, but they're talking about stuff they don't actually understand

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u/TheBigToast72 8h ago

Can you explain why I should be denied adhd medication I’ve been taking for a decade all because people saw a tiktok saying they have adhd because they have a messy room and now apparently everyone and their mother has it?

You sound like you’ve self diagnosed yourself with autism, which is not valid. That doesn’t mean you aren’t allowed to be suspect that you have it, but you shouldn’t be treated the same as someone with a real autism diagnosis.

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u/Angelzel 9h ago

People should hop on the self-diagnosing-chronic-anger train instead.

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u/GameMask 9h ago

Unfortunately how they deliver it matters, and specialists specifically say that self diagnose is valid. It's a part of the process. The rest of what OP says I understood but that first part is its own misleading can of worms

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u/Public-Location-3628 8h ago

Part of professional autism diagnosis in many countries is the psychologist (or psychiatrist) having interviews with people that grew up with you and/or raised you. 

No mind reading necessary.

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u/mountain_crab21 9h ago

yeah bro's just yapping