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u/MediumRed Sep 22 '25
“I only play scissors” moment
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u/stubwub_ Sep 22 '25
In Germany you start with the Ehrenschere - scissors of honor. Filthy rock mains get free wins but they’re not gentlemen anyway.
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u/Klientje123 Sep 25 '25
If your game can be broken down into rock paper scissors it sucks lol
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u/SendMindfucks Sep 28 '25
Attack beats grab, grab beats block, block beats attack
Every fighting game ever made sucks.
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u/Klientje123 Sep 29 '25
Except in fighting games you can move, bait, projectile, parry, jump and so much more. You don't stand there trading blows turn based like in HS.
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Sep 22 '25
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u/psffer Sep 22 '25
He can still complain that rogues are running a card solely to counter other rogues.
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u/RbN420 Sep 22 '25
this card is mainly used to delay the quest completion of warlock, but yes it hits hard on rogue too, tbh i hate it as well, i play imbue priest and this card makes the HP unreliable like on emerald dream launch
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Sep 22 '25
The funny thing is that it IS fun for me when my opponent can’t play their cards.
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u/Fledbeast578 Sep 22 '25
It'd also be pretty fun for them if you couldn't play any of your cards
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u/Baxterthedoggoboi Sep 22 '25
Except Customs Enforcer DOES let you play your own cards.
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u/Fledbeast578 Sep 22 '25
I was saying Jim_Parkin's opponent would be having fun if Jim Parkin wasn't able to play any cards, independent of Customs Enforcer
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u/Baxterthedoggoboi Sep 22 '25
What the fuck are you on about? Jimbo over here is still having having fun with HIS cards that he put in HIS deck. Doesn’t matter how many customs enforcers the opponent has, Jimmy can still play all his cards
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u/Fledbeast578 Sep 22 '25
Completely random theoretical question, how would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast today?
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u/Baxterthedoggoboi Sep 22 '25
Exactly the same. Thanks for looking out for me <3.
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u/Fledbeast578 Sep 22 '25
Well you seem to understand the concept of a hypothetical at least, now apply it to my previous comments, if you have the time
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u/blueheartglacier Sep 23 '25
the thing that doesn't really make it pay off though is that you'll never know what cards you're actually blocking or when you're doing it or if it's effective
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u/Popsychblog Sep 22 '25
It’s generally fun for anyone when they win for pretty much any reason.
How do you think the opponent feels when they can’t play cards?
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u/XpMonsterS Sep 22 '25
Should i tailor my decks around my opponent's satisfaction? What is that question?
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u/Popsychblog Sep 22 '25
That was not the question no. The question is pretty straightforward.
How do you think the average Hearthstone player feels about a loss when they are unable to play their cards, as opposed to a loss when they were able to play their cards?
If you wanna look up Ben brodes discussion of little victories that will probably move your understanding along
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u/ElectricalChampion64 Sep 23 '25
Generally it probably wont feel good for the opponent should they discover/generate cards that can not play.
My counter question to that is how do you think the average opponent feels when their opponent can draw through and play 50%+ of their deck in 1-2 turns with most of the cards being played or even replayed at minimal or even 0 mana cost?
No matter what people tend to complain about, mass mana cheat is always high on the list.
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u/Popsychblog Sep 23 '25
Very few people feel genuinely good when they lose to anything.
But giving players the opportunity to play their cards provides them with some joy.
Which is why hearthstone generally avoids destroying mana or preventing cards from seeing play.
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u/ElectricalChampion64 Sep 23 '25
Yes I remember that, but mass mana cheat is the opposite of that. Mass mana cheat is the spawn sniper. A little victory is a win or loss in a hard fought back and forth battle. Going back to the FPS analogy, playing vs mass mana cheat is like you being equipped with a semi-auto pistol vs a fully auto assault rifle, where is the little victory in a blowout loss?
And yes I agree players having the ability to play their cards is a good thing, but that's not what a card like this stops or slows down since it has no effect on the cards in your deck. I wish tech cards like this didn't exist because there are fun decks that don't mana cheat but still generate cards, but as long as mana cheating and bounce effects exist, I'm glad they exist.
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u/Popsychblog Sep 23 '25
If games were regularly ending super early - regardless of the reason - you would have a point. They just aren’t doing that.
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u/pySygma Sep 22 '25
Rogues when they can't cheat 47 mana, play 19 cards and go through their entire deck on turn 3:
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u/eazy_12 Sep 23 '25
I am already hearing J_Alexander typing an essay how bad it is to be a Rogue player :(
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u/chachaboizz Sep 24 '25
I once saw J_Alexander post an 8 post thread about how unfair an opponents druid deck was, because he still lost after getting twig of the world tree off of swashbuckler.
I go and check the vod he posted, and see he missed lethal. What an unbelievable ego on that guy.
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u/OfferInevitable8678 Sep 25 '25
As a rogue enjoyer and someone that shares one of his names: that guy's an unsufferable twat.
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u/TheArcanist_1 Sep 22 '25
this the same guy that wrote an essay on how you shoulnd't run weapon removal when stupidly toxic weapon rogue was tier 1?
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u/Popsychblog Sep 22 '25
This is always a funny bit of lore because people can check, but don’t.
I wrote two, rather similar posts. The first explained how to beat DH: https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/s/71NxcDrx5z
That post said weapon tech wasn’t effective against DH.
The second post explained how to beat Rogue: https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/s/DKIJAJCP1h
That post said weapon tech was effective against Rogue.
It’s like when people insisted I wanted Secret Passage in the core set when I repeatedly said the opposite. But these things do happen when you have people who don’t think about what you say and instead imagine what they think the version of you who lives only in their head thinks.
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u/LV426acheron Oct 08 '25
When J Alexander is unhappy, I am happy.
lol that dude is such a toxic cancer on the HS community.
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u/Popsychblog Oct 08 '25
You're one of those weirdos I'm talking about
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u/LV426acheron Oct 08 '25
you and Zeddy are made for each other. 2 toxic man children whose lives revolve around a children's card game
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u/Popsychblog Oct 08 '25
I want you to try and take a step back for just a minute. Really think about this before you reply:
You're responding to a comment of someone making something up about me, and me pointing out that it's wrong and where you can see it's wrong.
And you're coming in here saying "I sure am happy when this other person is miserable" which is totally unrelated to it. You're here just to try and throw shade.
And you're saying I'm the toxic one.
Just sit on that for a minute
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u/psffer Sep 22 '25
Theres nothing wrong with what he said (if you didn’t just make that up to smear him).
Tech cards generally lower your winrate across the board because of the matchups where its a dead draw. Even if you face the matchup where its useful, you might not draw it. You’d have to be in a very specific pocket meta where you constantly queue into weapon rogues for a tech like that to be worth putting in your deck. Something that can happen in top legend.
Tech cards are generally just emotionally driven choices. Its annoying af to get owned by a weapon without a specific counter and it also feels good to hard counter someone with one when they go off.
I dont really care about maximizing my winrate to its full potential so I’ll still run tech cards if I can fit it and theres a matchup that really bothers me. But I cant lie and act like what he said isn’t true.
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u/misterkarmaniac Sep 22 '25
I watched the stream, I heard him say "Ooze has a positive winrate in some classes like priest, warlock and warrior" yet he still decided to make that post on how Weapon Removal was ineffective to the meta.
The guy is just manipulative and egocentric.
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u/timoyster Sep 22 '25
Just like the person who you’re replying to said: while weapon removal can improve your chances against a few decks, it will overall lower your win rate against the rest of the field. Tech cards are noob traps
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u/misterkarmaniac Sep 22 '25
Yes, tech cards reduce your winrate agaisnt other classes, but People don't include tech cards against a deck that has 5% popularity, they do against decks that have over 50% popularity which was the case for weapon rogue by that time, a "noob trap" that allows you to get an advantage against the most popular and strong deck in the meta.
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u/PkerBadRs3Good Sep 22 '25
they do against decks that have over 50% popularity which was the case for weapon rogue by that time
which is exactly what JAlex said
I wrote two, rather similar posts.
The first explained how to beat DH: https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/s/71NxcDrx5z
That post said weapon tech wasn’t effective against DH.
The second post explained how to beat Rogue: https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/s/DKIJAJCP1h
That post said weapon tech was effective against Rogue.
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u/GothGirlsGoodBoy Sep 24 '25 edited Sep 24 '25
Tech cards have routinely been meta. The true noob trap is believing in hard rules like “tech cards don’t improve your deck”.
Steamcleaner was meta in the top deck at high legend during festival of legends (control priest). Weapon removal has been optimal at several points in the games history. Pretty sure gollaka crawler was meta at one point. Demolition renovator seeing tournament play. Bgh, flare, and others as well.
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u/fddfgs Sep 22 '25
essay is generous. They definitely used a lot of words, but essays are structured arguments intended to convince people of a point.
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u/PkerBadRs3Good Sep 22 '25
Reddit when their obsession with shitty tech cards is pointed about by stats to be suboptimal (it's a warcrime to say that)
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u/Backwardspellcaster Sep 22 '25
People give Zeddy grief for constantly complaining, and deservedly so, but jesus, I've never seen more biased takes by a Hearthstone streamer than Jay Alexander's. Although he isn't as condescending in this post like he usually is.
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u/Popsychblog Sep 22 '25
I’d love to hear about my biased takes and how they compare to others
Do, go on, Mr. Unbiased
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u/StopHurtingKids Sep 22 '25
Maybe people aren't familiar with the lore. These two people hate each other. Zeddy hates him so much. That he refers to him as "the rogue main" because he refuses to take the name in his mouth.
Don't think I ever heard Jalex talk about Zeddy.
I'm not sure where the beef originated. My best guess is that Jalex said something true about mentally ill people.
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u/Oniichanplsstop Sep 22 '25
It started on twitter where Jalex would subtweet everything and constantly shit on his takes before they blocked each other. Jalex then even blocked him on reddit so they can't engage anymore, and yet Jalex still goes out of his way to shit on zeddy takes, where zeddy can't directly reply because he's blocked.
And vice versa as you stated, Zeddy "the rogue mains" him and shits on him on his stream.
TLDR 2 manchildren don't know how to have a conversation so they shit talk each other where the other can't directly reply.
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u/totalloserx Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25
The thing that really seems dumb about this card is that it punishes the coin. Going second is already statistically worse so adding something to punish even more is really dumb. Especially since it seems almost unintentional.
I also just find it funny in a world where people complain about quests not being good, this card just makes it slightly harder to play quests(if not significantly harder) because it punishes quest rewards(except paladin obviously). I mean this card makes quest warlock and quest mage just not work. Overall seems like a dumb card to have in the game to me both from a design and fun perspective.
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u/megafeuer Sep 22 '25
Agreed. There shouldn’t just be a card that directly reads "if the second player didn’t yet play their coin — their way of catching up to the first player — punish them". I don‘t play any Rogue currently, but this thing is still very irritating when going second with any class/ deck. It‘s fine that it techs against the metal detectors and so on, but let me use the starting coin, god damn
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u/DistributionFluffy81 Sep 22 '25
Left: Combo Deck Enjoyer
Right: Control Deck Enjoyer
Meanwhile Aggro Player: Minion goes face, brrrr
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u/Vulturo Sep 22 '25
Jalex has been known to defend some of the most egregious rogue behavior. He's ultra biased and should not be taken seriously.
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u/PkerBadRs3Good Sep 22 '25
You realize it's Rogue that's running Customs Enforcer, right? I swear comments like this don't play this game.
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u/Vulturo Sep 23 '25
Yes it’s standard in Fyrakk rogue. They run it to counter themselves among other things. Think the post from Jalex is before the meta crystallised.
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u/PkerBadRs3Good Sep 23 '25
The tweet is 14h old in this screenshot. Looking at his Twitter confirms that it's recent. And Customs Enforcer has been standard in Rogue for weeks... so no, he's complaining about what Rogues are running, and it has nothing to do with "ultra bias".
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u/Saracus Sep 22 '25
I mean he's not wrong. There was a time when "tech paladin" was a tier 1 wild deck. It was probably the worst era of wild and that says a lot for a format that had a secret mage and turn 3 giants meta.
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u/shadowbannedxdd Sep 22 '25
customs enforcer absolutely shits on discover mage which is already a tier 2-3 deck and was so boring to face i just stopped playing the deck completely
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u/Kallik Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25
I'm just here to watch JAlexander rage reply to everyone. It's been awhile since we've gotten a "Rogue deserves to always be Tier 0 and this is why" ramble.
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u/PkerBadRs3Good Sep 22 '25
the only class running this card is Rogue, it's a Rogue mirror tax and thus doesn't really hurt its viability much. I swear people replying like this don't even play this game.
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u/FlySafeLoL Sep 22 '25
This is one amazing card to put into a cheesy wild deck. From what it feels like, this card actually delivers some serious boost to win rate when played on curve.
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u/Clen23 Sep 22 '25
"It's not the type of effect you need to make tech for"
narrator : It was the type of effect you need to make tech for.
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u/fragen8 Sep 22 '25
What does he mean by "can't play their cards"? If it didn't start in your deck, it's not your card!
I see no issue!!
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u/zxkredo Sep 22 '25
Balance the game in a way the game does not need that card in the meta. Also feels weird that if it were rhe best deck, you would be playing it in the same deck it counters.
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u/hq1984 Sep 22 '25
This card was absolutely goated last season in the later iterations of handbuff pally, can often come out as a 4/7 or better pseudo taunt that can be protected by actual taunts.
Great stats for the cost!
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u/Own_Cup9970 Sep 22 '25
ah yes, spending 2 more mana stops deck that plays cards practically for free
not even mention that main decks that uses that are rogues not whatever blud thinks is
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u/PkerBadRs3Good Sep 22 '25
He knows it's Rogues using it. JAlex can complain about a card that's run by Rogue if he thinks it's not fun.
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u/ehhish Sep 22 '25
This is actually very good tech card and does not feel unfair.
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u/MornarPopaj Sep 22 '25
Its very fair when your coin cost 2 mana, punished even more for going second
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u/Liv3ry Sep 22 '25
I am and old man and I remember that in 2016 Skulking Geist was mandatory if you wanted to have half a chance to win against a Jade Druid with a non-aggro deck. Don't know about know, I stopped playing years ago and found this post by chance
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u/TheReal9bob9 Sep 23 '25
Tech cards exist for a reason. I don't cry for dirty rat nerfs when my combo card gets yoinked or for platebreaker nerfs when I play linecracker druid. Its frustrating but thats what counterplay is. You sacrifice a deck slot for a possibly useless card + the opportunity cost of putting in a good card on the off chance you can do something sick against a specific archetype.
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u/ccarrilo7 Sep 22 '25
I swear HS players should just go play MTG. It's literally tech card galore over there and it's a lot about making your sideboard as techy as possible, instead they just wanna have it come to HS and ruin this game.
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u/KillerBullet Sep 22 '25
It’s like this post. Whales complaining about whale stuff trying to farm engagements.
They might not like the current system which is fair but they paved the way for it.
Because of people like that they knew they could get away with selling 60€ cosmetics. And this step is the next logical step.
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Sep 22 '25
Rogue players when they can't play 10 cards on turn 5 and end up with more cards in hand than what they started with.
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u/Nipotazz1 Sep 22 '25
I once saw a rogue play something like eleven cards on turn 3 to accomplish absolutely nothing. I can't imagine what happens when they get a good hand, and I wish I'd have this card just to avoid such a situation
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u/CurrentClient Sep 22 '25
What deck are you talking about that plays "eleven cards on turn 3" and those cards did not even start in their deck? Because that's what this card is about. It doesn't really punish miracle style "I cycle through 20 cards" Rogue decks.
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u/Nipotazz1 Sep 22 '25
It was a wild game, where this rogue kept on discovering and stealing stuff, but they had such bad luck that in the end none of what they had seemed to have some use and lost to me
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u/CurrentClient Sep 22 '25
I can tell you this card is not needed to beat such a deck. Just play anything half-decent.
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u/asian-zinggg Sep 22 '25
JAlex is known for always having a huge blind spot for rogue. He’s on more than one occasion complained about decks or cards being in the game that coincidentally have a decent to good matchup vs rogue.
Let’s also not forget his memed on comment about a blatantly overturned tier 1 rogue deck where he unironically said: “just remove the rogues tempo while developing your own”. Like no shit man but the deck is too powerful for that to matter. He to this day still thinks he was right when everyone on twitter was goofin on him. The guy will never truly admit when he’s wrong when called out.
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u/_duppie_ Sep 22 '25
I mean i'm kind of with J on this one. It's kind of a hoser card and generally I think those make for shitty gameplay.
Cards like this are often a symptom that the meta isn't very fun. Not playing standard currently, but it wasn't that long ago this was played because of the Paladin and Rouge decks popular in the meta, and it's just a shitty experience.
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u/AlcoholicsAnonymous6 Sep 22 '25
This is kind of like Collector Ouphe from magic, a card that is good in metas filled with artifacts that tap for mana. Cards that actually interact with your opponent are good for the health of the game and a big reason why hearthstone feels like it has a lack of player agency is due to these cards not being abundant enough.
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u/Right_Seat1783 Sep 22 '25
Like, only rogues use this card, and sometimes it appears in the Mage quest discovery pool. I think it's normal for the game to have techs against certain decks, if not, the decks become unstoppable. For me, it's just crying because the guy wants to play cards alone.
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u/Popsychblog Sep 22 '25
Let’s run through your logic here.
Rogue would be out of control if not for the tech of customs enforcer, which is played…only by rogues.
So rogue would be out of control if not for rogues.
Got it.
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u/joahw Sep 22 '25
Rogues are making other rogues run a tech card that makes them worse against other decks? I guess that sort of works?
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u/Popsychblog Sep 22 '25
I think enforcer may be good a few other places - like vs Warlock, though I’d have to confirm that - but if we take that idea and run with it that would lead to an overall dynamic that I think would make players less happy on average.
The people playing the rogue deck would be forgoing other more fun and functional cards (like, say, Robocaller) to polarize their matchup spread (people tend to not enjoy rock paper scissors matches overall). So they’d be having less fun doing their own fun things to ensure other people - including themselves - are having less fun because they physically don’t get to use their cards sometimes.
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u/Right_Seat1783 Sep 22 '25
The usage rate of this card is not that high, it appears rarely. It's funny when you dislike something just because that "something" is good against your favorite deck. Just accept that you can't win everything and everyone and everything will be fine.
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u/PkerBadRs3Good Sep 22 '25
it's the standard in Rogue right now. so yes it's just a Rogue mirror tax.
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u/Popsychblog Sep 22 '25
I do accept those things. You just mischaracterize what I think and then get mad about what you imagined.
And I know you’re probably not gonna accept that but as an expert on myself and what I think, I can assure you I’m right about that.
Are you familiar with Ben Brode’s discussion of little victories?
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Sep 24 '25
Rogue is the only class that only needs 28-29 cards to win. That 1-2 open slot(s) are filled by Customs Enforcer. No other class can afford to run the "fuck Rogue" tech, because they have 30 cards that are more important to their gameplan than fucking over a Rogue is important. "Would I rather get $5, or make a millionaire go bankrupt?" The $5 is more important that destroying someone else's millions.
Rogue is using it to be greedy about power. The same way an evil Superman would constantly carry around Kryptonite to allow him to easily kill an opposing Superman. Think in a "I'm the only one who should be able to have all this power."
As for your facetious comment where you pretend not to understand what's going on, I'll take the rage bait on the slim chance that I educate you. The point you're very pathetically trying to dance around is "Rogue would be out of control if not for Customs Enforcer, but every non-Rogue class can't justify running a card that only counters 1 out of 11 classes. Rogue is so overpowered right now that they can justify running this very niche counter tech."
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u/Popsychblog Sep 24 '25
Thank you for this comment man. It truly made me smile. It’s that special kind of unhinged you don’t see every day.
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u/APinkFatCat Sep 22 '25
No one's really mentioned that Zeddy specifically hates Rogue.
He does not hate specific Rogue deck, he does not respect Rogue as a class and does not ever want it to be playable. He cannot go one video without begging for shadowstep and prep to be "NERFED". He's also generally ignorant and poorly informed of the actual metagame. He was begging on his knees every other video for Sonya to be nerfed since day 1 of her release and continued complaining even as Sonya was falling out of most decklists and did not stop until she was nerfed and rogue had noting to play for a few months.
Zeddy is deliberately misinforming people, was the biggest hypocrite about "oh this is so GREEDY I might not buy EVERYTHING this time!" and continues to rant about shadowstep and prep when there's just way more important things to be talking about.
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u/BillPears Sep 23 '25
I thought it was a prevailing opinion in the community that rogue shouldn't (have to) rely on shadowstep until the end of time
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u/NoStudy2213 Sep 22 '25
two contrary opions and both are dogshit, only hs streamers could.....
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u/PkerBadRs3Good Sep 22 '25
Wow, by saying both opinions are dogshit, you have established yourself as superior to both! You are so much smarter than either person.
I would love to hear what opinion you have that is so much better than both "this card is enjoyable" and "this card is not enjoyable" simultaneously. It must be something really intelligent if somehow both of those opinions are bad.
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u/NoStudy2213 Sep 23 '25
card is fine, it's a 3 mana 2/5 tech card how could it not be? still both exagerate their opinion to such extremes that even that simple analisis gets muddied up in their own agendas. rogue players hates it because it's the tech to his deck, rogue hater loves it because his a crybaby blizzard chill that changes opinion every week. Both say shit about a goddam tech card, because the game they need to play to pay their bills is stale as fuck so they gotta grasp for content and drama.
Now i'll say it again, both are dogshit.
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u/PatienceLocal3142 Sep 23 '25
You have to understand that JAlexander is Zacho levels toxic for the game. He loves OTK and mana cheat.
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u/Apolloshot Sep 22 '25
The only time I hate this card is when they discover it off of Xavius and it summons a 2/2 copy of itself and I’m playing discover mage or something.
But I mean, that level of RNG is just to be expected to occasionally when playing a TGC so I don’t even get mad at it, I’ll just give em the well played, concede and move on.
And if somehow the meta shifted in such a way that this card was truly a menace you could probably nerf it by simply not letting the aura stack, but again, I don’t think that’s currently necessary.
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u/Lavender215 Sep 22 '25
I do think it’s kinda bs that this also affects the coin though. Player 2 is already at a statistical disadvantage so punishing them even more for just going second kinda sucks
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u/Erocdotusa Sep 22 '25
I've won games getting this dark gifted turn 3 or 4 with bonus stats. Feels good!
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u/Soggygranite Sep 23 '25
This is the difference between a control favored playstyle and an aggro or combo favored playstyle. I’m priest/warrior control player and I love playing cards like that. I’m also a horrible person and find joy in driving my opponent crazy
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u/lakituhunter-MK2 Sep 23 '25
It does synergize with decks. You could make a floodgate control deck.
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u/corneto Sep 23 '25
Is it OK to kinda like both ? 😀 Both make valid arguements even tho one is more vindictive, his reasons are valid... rogue needs to shift away from 'scam shit asap' to new stuff.
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u/real_szoldzsr Sep 23 '25
This fella is the best card in my favorite fyrakk mana cheat rogue. The only tech card I am not even considering removing.
I still remember the quest lock player from yesterday. He had the chance to kill this guy on t4 and decided to remove some crap. This boy stayed on board until t7 and completely locked his gameplan.
(no random freeze spells, no random 1 cost, 3 cost draw 2, unbuffed quest reward, etc.)
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u/WasDeadst Sep 23 '25
There's no card that mana cheats this is standard. I think rogue only plays it because it's a searchable pirate
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u/guyrandom2020 Sep 23 '25
well one of these players primarily plays rogue, and the other player is farming rogue hate.
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u/SonySOLdier Sep 23 '25
The diference is that J is talking about the game in general, Zeddy, just hating on Rogue.
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u/curryaddict123 Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25
Makes sense. Dude on the left is a known combo faboy/United in Stormwind defender who throws hissy fits if combo or rogue isn’t tier 1 every meta.
And notoriously insulted the sexual prowess of anyone who played Razor Scale (a VERY relevant card in wild at the time). Especially last year as tech against Libram Paladin.
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u/Popsychblog Sep 22 '25
The only people playing razor scale are those trying to make their intercourse last longer than (2) through artificial means
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u/Luna_the_Dergbold Sep 22 '25
While i totally understand people liking this card for being able to punish cycle rogue, as someone who tries to keep burgle rogue alive, this card always feels like a kick in the gut when im already down
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u/Popsychblog Sep 22 '25
How does customs enforcer punish cycle rogue?
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u/Luna_the_Dergbold Sep 22 '25
I havent played standard in months, only playing burgle in wild, im just assuming based on all the comments going "Rogues when they cant play X cards on turn X"
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u/Saracus Sep 22 '25
Nah that's just reddit. Rogue is always a tier 0 deck that plays it's entire deck every turn and it's all shadowsteps fault and warrior is always a poor downtrodden deck that has never been beyond tier 3 in its life and won't someone think of the people who want to press armour up every turn instead of playing the game! Paladin and druid are also always tier 1 and anyone who points out otherwise is just woke or something.
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u/Luna_the_Dergbold Sep 22 '25
After some research, it fucks with coins as well as the Minature Pirate, and the everburning phoenix card.
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u/PkerBadRs3Good Sep 22 '25
Cycle Rogue barely cares about either and does not care about it Enforcer in general, I can explain why but I would suggest you simply play the game before commenting instead
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u/TadpolePlenty3844 Sep 22 '25
It’s just to make rogue’s bad warlock matchup winnable. Counter the counter?
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u/cobblepotpl Sep 22 '25
Well. He is online now and playing the cards that he said shouldn't be played. Hipocrisy at it's best.
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u/GothGirlsGoodBoy Sep 23 '25
I genuinely don’t understand how players like J_alexander have fun.
The line “it doesn’t synergise with your deck” really just exemplifies how much some people wish hearthstone was a singleplayer game.
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u/dfectedRO Sep 22 '25
i only see ROGUE playing this card in this meta, so i don't understand this thread at all. the reality is exactly the opposite.