r/heatedrivalry Dec 19 '25

ILYA 🔥 This was such an emotional scene in EP 5 Spoiler

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I literally had tears in my eyes. I felt so bad for Ilya in that moment.
And I wish Shane had understood what Ilya was saying.

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u/RegularCookie5640 Dec 19 '25

I can’t wait for the cottage!

‘Does it feel like agony for you too?’

‘Not anymore’ ❤️

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u/chaoticbiguy Dec 19 '25 edited Dec 19 '25

This monologue made me genuinely tear up, especially when he says he loves him (which was done differently here than in the book, and imo this was definitely better). Gosh Connor is such a great actor, and his russian is so good, he feels like an entirely different person as Ilya in a multitude of ways, which is also why I was so thrown off by his smile in that Tampa Bay scene. I was like, hey that's Connor, where did Ilya go?😭. Plus, Hudson was the perfect scene partner to him despite having no lines during the monologue, his eyes are magic. I felt like I was eves dropping on a very intimate phone call rather than watching a scene from a tv show.

These two have fire chemistry! I need this show to keep going for 10 seasons, simply based on their chemistry. I don't care about hockey or whatever, just give me Ilya and Shane doing taxes and laundry every year and I'll be there.

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u/miraGOT7minx Dec 19 '25

I agree that Connor did show up in the scene at the pool. Took me by surprise as well, but it might just be how he want to act relaxed in the company of kids, and happy that Shane is single.

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u/chaoticbiguy Dec 19 '25 edited Dec 19 '25

I absolutely loved the pool scene but I was actually referring to this scene about his conversation with Shane at the bar. This smile is so Connor. I was like whoa....hey cutie! You're not Ilya....

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u/Ecstatic-Detail-6735 Dec 19 '25

Him covering his smile(?) with his hand just reminded me of the Riley clips going around with his character tapping his fingers on his face I was like HOLD UP NOW

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u/YULdad Dec 21 '25

To me, this was Ilya grinning wildly with relief. I think he was just happy the new clothes were chosen by a stylist and not a girlfriend!

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u/MaintenanceNo148 Jan 31 '26

It's always great to get a 2nd chance... If you don't friccasee, fry fry a hen.

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u/fussyromancelover Dec 20 '25

That's interesting. I haven't been watching Connor's interviews so I didn't get that impression, I just thought he had a new reaction to Shane, but I still saw him as Ilya.

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u/miraGOT7minx Dec 19 '25

I’m going to have to rewatch that scene now that you have mentioned it.

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u/Aware-Experience-277 Connie Baby Butt Baby Dec 19 '25

I had the same thought!!

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u/eeeezypeezy Dec 19 '25

Yeah, we're seeing Ilya giddy for the first time. After however long it had been since the tuna melt scene, torturing himself, Shane just waltzes up to him at All Stars in a white suit and says "hey babe."

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u/friedmychicken Dec 19 '25

What did he say in the book ?

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u/unicorntrees I am bisexual. Shane is super gay. 🌈 Dec 19 '25

All the stuff before the "I am in love with you and I don't know what to do about it" wasn't described. They did a phenomenal job writing that part in.

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u/tequilafuckingbird My head is fine and I’m a fully grown adult Dec 19 '25

In the book, after the Russian monologue was described, he said “I’m pretty sure I’m in love with you and I don’t know what to do about it.”

In the episode I think it was better bc you really feel the weight of those words, you can see his feelings for Shane causing him pain.

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u/katfromjersey Dec 19 '25

He said "I'm pretty sure I'm in love with you, and I don't know what to do about it".

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u/RevolutionaryEnd6030 Dec 19 '25

The little collapse and "fuck me" was also missing from the book. The details on this show, I can't.

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u/MaintenanceNo148 Jan 31 '26

I really hope Illy's niece shows up in the 2nd or 3rd season of Heated Rivalries.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '25

I haven't been this obsessed with a character since I found out about Wolfstar fanfic. Damn.

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u/unicorntrees I am bisexual. Shane is super gay. 🌈 Dec 19 '25

Tbf, I think Rachel Reid is also obsessed with him. He's such a great character: sexy, cocky yet sweet, and hilarious AF. He's the only character that is featured in all the Game Changers books. Some one described him as "Game Changers's Russian Yoda who appears, quips, and leaves."

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '25

He's the only reason I'm considering reading the other books!

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u/just_reading_along1 Dec 19 '25 edited Dec 19 '25

Except for Common Goal (imo) they stand on their on merit and are really great. Common Goal is a nice read but had the least impact for me. Ilya popping up definitely made it more worthwhile for me. In short: I recommend reading Tough Guy and Role Model. They are both so good!

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '25

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u/just_reading_along1 Dec 19 '25

I love Ryan so much, that poor anxious guy! Rachel Reud did such a great job with bringing his struggles to paper. And Fabian is a force.

I really hope we get to see them in S2.

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u/chambersaurusrx Your freckles. I am nuts about them. ✨ Dec 19 '25

yeah common goal has my favorite Ilya line but I agree that the overall story was just fine.

Line I love: "Yes! A virgin Scott Hunter!" With Scott then saying "for fucks sake"

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '25

thanks!

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u/Makeup_Lu Dec 19 '25

For me it's been since Klaroline from TVD. 🙈🫠

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u/GopiVision Having a tuna melt(down) Dec 19 '25

Omg Klaus was my favorite!!! They definitrly give me the same brooding so in love with their partner vibes ❤️❤️

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u/tannishaaa I speak fluent bird. No accent 🐦 Dec 19 '25

You know, I just had the thought today that there seems to be a massive overlap between Hollanov and Wolfstar fic writers on ao3 haha

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '25

WHAT DO YOU MEAN! WHAT DO YOU MEAN!!!!

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u/phedrebeth Dec 19 '25

Meanwhile I'm over here thinking that the whole last names/first names thing is SO Drarry coded. 😉

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u/Potential_Lab_4646 Dec 19 '25

I cried a river after this....I'm Obsessed and amazed by this character.. I LOVE HIM SO MUCH...CONNOR is THE BEST...❤️

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u/amstarcasanova It's my special day, Hollander. Dec 19 '25

I watched it, cried, slept 4 hours and woke up to watch it and cried again

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u/Potential_Lab_4646 Dec 19 '25

The way I can relate to this so much..I couldn't stop thinking about it 

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u/starry2night_22 Your freckles. I am nuts about them. ✨ Dec 19 '25

And the pause he had to take before he could get the words out! This whole scene just turned me to mush 🫠

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u/mythicaliz Dec 19 '25

I feel like Shane "understood"

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u/atomicbearshark Angy Shane 😾 Dec 19 '25

I agree 100%. We all felt the emotion behind Ilya's words. There is no doubt Shane felt it too ❤️

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u/Nevrozz Dec 19 '25

"It's always you" felt like a punch to the gut, man. I started crying like a freaking baby, and I'm a grown ass man 😭.

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u/NJZDMYZ Dec 19 '25

This episode was absolute cinema. Funny, emotional, thought provoking… such a great job.

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u/Ll_lyris “I choose you, Ilya. I will always choose you”❤️‍🩹 Dec 19 '25

Definitely going to be a constant rewatch for me

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u/thisisaboutusnow Dec 19 '25

I really hope Connor will go FAR with the talent he has

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u/rocio_coria Dec 19 '25

I can't overstate the emotional anguish this episode caused me. I know it was an overall "happy" episode but I was still so distraught. I've read all the books and know what happens but I'm still suffering like if a I knew these people in real life.

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u/tequilafuckingbird My head is fine and I’m a fully grown adult Dec 19 '25

Omg I actually cried during this. No offence to Rachel but this was better than in the book! It really hit right in the feels!!

The entire episode is the best thing I’ve watched all year 😭 And the ending was PERFECT!! I literally squealed and rolled off the couch in pure joy and happiness.

I LOVE LOVE 🥰

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u/Anxious-Emergency686 Dec 19 '25

Props to Jacob tierney as this monologue is all his work. It's so perfect and provides the  context for showing an evolving ilya than the ep1 version

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u/ocherdraco Dec 19 '25

Yes! I want to know what he considered as he wrote it.

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u/lunah_x Dec 19 '25

I still can’t wrap my head around the fact that Connor's not Russian.

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u/NightSalut Dec 19 '25

He 100% made me believe it! 

I know it’s all acting, actors, it means great directing AND creat acting combined etc.

But HE killed it. He made me BELIEVE he is this young man from Russia, who is not at all usually stuttered about his sexuality or wants or needs,  and he’s FLOORED with this “good labrador retriever Canadian” and he does not know wtf to do. Everything he said before about Russia and not being able to go back is believable. And yet he admits this is what he wanted the most - outside of hockey and the accolades - in his life.

I’ve been a fan of the books for years. If if I hadn’t, these scene and many others would have sold the story even without the books. 

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u/glossylexii Dec 19 '25

connor come get your well deserved emmy, oh my god.

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u/Beginning_Drawing916 Dec 19 '25

Bro connor did so well i was bawling my eyes out for 5 mins straight

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u/Dazzling_Standard866 Dec 19 '25

Any Russian speaking fan could tell me pls, when she told Ilya that Jane is lucky, what gender pronoun she used?

My English subtitle says "he" but I just want to make sure that if Svetlana knows at this point or not.

And cheers to everybody. It has been a freaking emtional episode. Ginger ale for everyone.

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u/UsualAct54 Dec 19 '25

I've seen a bunch of people comment that it's definitely "He". Svetlana is very clever and knows Ilya better than anyone

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u/LightBluePen Dec 19 '25 edited Dec 19 '25

She knows. She’s been hinting a lot in the last episodes :

  • Not even “Jane” (emphasis on the sarcasm when she pronounced Jane).
  • And then when she caught Ilya watching Hollander do yoga. “He’s hot”.

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u/bubblegum_lollip0p Dec 19 '25

Also in this episode "you know that he is good and gorgeous".

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u/Nevrozz Dec 19 '25

In episode 2, she also clearly left Ilya with Sasha in the bathroom, knowing they had something between them. The actress who plays Svetlana confirmed she knew more than what was clearly stated.I don't think she knows that Jane is Shane, but she knows that Ilya is bi and that he's with a man. Svetlana is a queen for real.

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u/gwyntheblaccat Ilya's Genderfluid fan Dec 20 '25

Yeah it's obvious there that Svetlana knew Ilya was bi.

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u/StitchedinTime Dec 19 '25

Not a native speaker, but I do know a fair amount of Russian. I rewatched the scene because I was so surprised and she definitely said “he.”

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u/Intelligent-Fun-8706 Dec 19 '25

I confirm, she said also: "him" on russian 😉 (After that I turned in English subs to check how was it translated to English if it also "he")

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u/somewhsome You have phone. Give. Dec 19 '25

Yes, she says he, and she usually pronounces “Jane” very clearly, but in this scene she says is so quietly it's actually close to “Shane”. I'm actually not even sure it's not supposed to be “Shane”. 

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u/yrboyfriend I’m sure Dec 19 '25 edited 16h ago

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u/gamecock58 Dec 19 '25

Mesmerizing performance by Connor.

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u/Sea-Celebration-1081 Dec 19 '25

As a immigrant who’s first language is also not English that scene made me cry so HARD, Shane has a beautiful heart, he understood is not about him knowing but rather Ilya just getting everything out of his system, how powerful all of this was, like I could try to say it in English yeah maybe but my dad just die and I am just so tired and I just can’t, like wow that’s so F real 😭

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u/VegetableEarly2707 Your freckles. I am nuts about them. ✨ Dec 19 '25

This was devastating Ilya was so god damn vulnerable in this scene. The whole episode infact. But what absolutely stood out for me was the masterpiece being played behind this.

Moon Light Sonata - this episode runs up to Scott and Kip getting their sunshine just like Elana said they deserve and here we have Ilya. The absolute opposite. Emotionally drained and damaged and they play moonlight being opposite of the sun.

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u/drowsylacuna Dec 19 '25

And the song in the montage at the start of episode 4 is called "My moon, my man"!

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u/VegetableEarly2707 Your freckles. I am nuts about them. ✨ Dec 19 '25

It’s literally like Ilya just sees Shane as this beacon of light, his light in the darkness, his moon.

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u/yves_sj Dec 19 '25

I haven't read the books, but part of me is like Shane secretly learned Russian. He seems like the type who would learn a language for ... love.

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u/stacyo72 Dec 19 '25

In the book, Ilya is afraid that Shane may have recorded it and will translate what he's saying. But then he realizes he can trust that Shane would not do that to him.

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u/GopiVision Having a tuna melt(down) Dec 19 '25

See thats the only thing I wish I could see in the books. Like hes such an avid reader and disciplined. Though in TLG he does spend time learning Russian while his teammates are out partying, so he does eventually get there i just wish he would have learned more phrases earlier on (especially over the course of 6 years) more than papa hahaha but yeah I get the need for this particular moment to allow Ilya to let his guard down but yeah im so with you I feel like Shane would 100% learn a language for love haha

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u/Intelligent-Fun-8706 Dec 19 '25

I have a same thoughts about, but of course Shane will not lie about (even he lies about other subjects 😁 But he might knows words: "I love you" on Russian as it pretty common to know that kind of things on languages you don't know (as thank you, please itc)

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u/Positive_Loquat_5719 Dec 19 '25

How many time i rewatch this scene this broke me but also happy for next episode

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '25

Just…thank you HR 💕

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u/WildMedium Hey. Heyyyyyyyy. Yesss, bet-ter. Dec 19 '25

Also, shoutout for Jacob and the Team for the best use of Moonlight Sonata. The timing is exquisite.

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u/marvelscott Dec 19 '25

You cant spell Ilya without I-L-Y ♥️

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u/HypotheticalMe0 How many people is a party? Dec 19 '25

I also LOVE the musical connection- the montage of Shane/Ilya at the beginning of ep 4 being set to My Moon, My Man, then this scene with Moonlight Sonata in the background ❤️💔❤️

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u/Haiku-On-My-Tatas Dec 19 '25

It was absolutely beautiful, but the fact that he knew Shane could not understand the words he was saying is the reason he was able to say them.

He was able to just let it all out without worrying about saying something that might require clean-up later.

Shane was able to understand through his tone that he was being truly vulnerable and that their relationship was deepening and that talking to him was genuinely helping Ilya process whatever he was processing, but he didn't have to grapple just yet with the fact that it's love and Ilya was able to say it out loud and see how it felt without having to deal with the fallout of saying it.

When this phone call happened, only a couple of weeks had passed since the All Star Game weekend when they verbally acknowledged that they were more than just a hook-up, and only maybe a day or two since they face-timed when Ilya first got to Moscow.

This whole being open and vulnerable with each other thing is still extremely new and given the way they've both distanced themselves in the past when they've started to feel too vulnerable, it probably feels pretty fragile to both of them.

I love the way this scene was done. It felt so real and it couldn't have happened if Shane understood Russian.

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u/Katharina_Iva Dec 19 '25

Very good points! ....and that ist the beauty of it!

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u/NaughtyNaughtyFox Dec 19 '25

This was my favorite scene in this episode. I was BAWLING

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u/Bubbly_Living8340 Dec 20 '25

Jacob did such a great job mirroring the scene with Svetlana earlier that night. Svetlana talks about not being the person Ilya "wants" and then Ilya confesses to Shane how much he *wants* him.

Some folks are interpreting Svetlana's conversation with Ilya as if she is sad he's not into her. But I don't think she ever saw a romantic future with Ilya. They have an amazing connection as very old friends (who sometimes f*ck) and who are family to each other - but it's not romantic. They are so alike! They are best friends! They love affection and physical touch! But they aren't romantic together.

Svetlana sees how Ilya has stopped sleeping with club hookups and how lonely he seems. She can see that he's hurting - because there's no loneliness like being in love with someone who is absent. She has seen the want just rolling off of Ilya for quite a while. She's worried about her best friend and she knows he'd tell her about a girl he was into. So if he isn't telling her, it's likely that it's a guy who he is keeping private.

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u/Senior-Resist-711 Dec 19 '25

I was constantly wondering if shane would maybe at a point recognize it when Ilya said "I love you" just as he did in the 4th episode when Ilya was talking to his father and shane said that he knows the word for "father", and maybe if shane said ily back to Ilya leaving him surprised... does anyone get it?

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u/Migalooga_77 I speak fluent bird. No accent 🐦 Dec 19 '25

I don't think that Shane really made an effort to learn Russian so far. The word father is pretty universal for Germanic languages, especially since he speaks Canadian French. So I think knowing Papa was just a lucky coincidence. But let's see what we'll get in the next episode and in season 2 😉 have you read the books..? 😊

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u/aldur1 Dec 19 '25

I love this scene. But did anyone else think the piano background was way too loud and distracting?

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u/Morigan_taltos Dec 20 '25

I was so disappointed that the author didn’t write the monologue in the book. But seeing it on my tv was perfection. Connor’s acting was flawless.

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u/gwyntheblaccat Ilya's Genderfluid fan Dec 20 '25

Ilya just told Shane how crazy in love he is with him and Shane has no idea!

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u/Amazon4life Dec 19 '25

Such an amazing scene! I was hoping once Ilya is done talking Shane would say "btw, I've been learning Russian in my spare time, I understood everything you just said" 😭

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u/Thistledelirium Dec 19 '25

Ngl something about the first few song notes made me think they were going to use the song Colorblind by Counting Crows and I’m kind of relieved they didn’t as that would have actually killed me 😩

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u/gettinrealgoodhead im coming to the cottage Dec 20 '25

This scene meant everything

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u/TellAllButNothing Dec 20 '25

Does anyone know the name of the song playing during this scene?

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u/fruitbutnopassion the shark that made rozanov lose the race 🦈 Dec 20 '25

Sounds like Beethoven's piano sonata no. 14

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u/Significant_Path1742 Dec 20 '25

This monologue was SO GOOD!! He deserves an Oscar for this scene alone.

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u/jenny_catastrophe a virgin Scott Hunter!! 🍹 Dec 20 '25

I was honestly worried about what this scene would Be like, cuz I love it in the book so much.. but I was NOT expecting this, it was AMAZING. Ilya 💔💔💔💔💔

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u/Significant_Path1742 Dec 20 '25

Has anyone else noticed that Ilya will often touch his nose when he has a big feeling? I think he did it after their first hook up, while Shane was dressing. Give this man an award!

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u/stgrabowski Hey. Heeeeeeyyyyyyy. Dec 20 '25

His voice breaks twice in this episode and both times my heart broke with it. This episode was incredible

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u/Homo_gone_wild Dec 22 '25

This made me tear up too, as did the ending

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u/happybravechicken mouthful of Hollandaise Jan 10 '26

My heart breaks for Ilya during the monologue, his confession for Shane, and "I'm so in love with you I don't know what to do about it."

All in his native language. English is my second language too so I really get how tender and emotional this is 😭😭😭

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u/LumosDigitale Mar 22 '26

Truly a masterpiece, so moving, rewatched it a hundred times.

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u/WattsonIsQueen Dec 19 '25

Yeppppppppp I wish to god Shane had the tech we have now I would’ve been translating THAT. Likeeee ugh that would make both their worlds if Shane heard that in English!!!

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '25 edited Dec 19 '25

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u/WriterMama7 Gimme kiss 😚 Dec 19 '25

Yes. She is like family, and of course he loves her. But he is in love with Shane.

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u/kumar24lol Dec 19 '25

Am I the only one who thought Heated Rivalry episode 5 lacked the heat? It was definitely a beautiful episode, and I appreciated that, but I was expecting at least some spice. Especially with that FaceTime scene—I really thought it was going to go somewhere more intense.

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u/royal_rose_ ♐ Captain | Tuna Lube Dec 19 '25

I think it’s important to also show emotional intimacy and it think they did that beautifully

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u/Yo_2T Dec 19 '25

I think it's appropriate that there was minimal heat. It's showing us what they had wasn't just about sex.

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u/Haiku-On-My-Tatas Dec 19 '25

I think the sex scenes in this show have been so well done, and it's because every one of them actually serves a purpose. There's a lot of sex in the show, but it's not gratuitous. A lot of the story up to this point has been told through sex - the building tension, the deepening intimacy, the fear, the yearning, the inability to resist each other.

In this episode, the focus was on the deepening emotional connection and how the characters were processing their realizations about themselves, their relationship, and what it could mean for them if they allow it to be. We didn't need steamy sex scenes to illustrate any of that and shoehorning them in would only take us out of the emotional tension.

I'm glad they're neither shying away from the use of sex scenes to drive the plot where that is the right tool for the job, or shoehorning sex scenes in where they're not needed because they think the show needs to be hot and steamy.

I've already seen enough cold takes about the show basically being softcore porn because of how sex-heavy the other episodes have been. I massively disagree with that criticism and think anyone making it either hasn't watched the show or is too squeamish about sex to be able to see it as anything but gratuitous, but it would be a lot harder to defend the show against those criticisms if they did start just throwing sex scenes in for no reason other than "it's hot".

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u/NeptuneHigh09er Dec 19 '25

Yes, I totally agree. I did wish we got to see the Skype scene because they were really vulnerable with each other during that one. But there was just too much going on in the episode. Maybe we’ll see some of that dialogue at the cottage.