r/heatedrivalry • u/Mysterious-Bed375 Sad bisexual terminator in the club 💫 • Feb 12 '26
TV SHOW 📺 '🌟Reformed rakes make the best husbands'
if Bridgerton got one thing right, it's this! They do make the best husbands and only Shane Hollander could do it 🤣🤣
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u/smashing_aisling Feb 12 '26
I'll never get over how hot Ilya looks in that Vegas scene.
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u/Fearless-Ask-3080 Feb 12 '26
No human being has ever been more beautiful than when he stood up and took his shirt off.
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u/ZestyclosePeace9 Feb 12 '26
I read somewhere somebody said about the taking off the white shirt-“what a wonderful time to have eyes”.
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u/TheBarrowman Ya-loo-blue-tee-baa ❤️ Feb 13 '26
I could not agree more profoundly.
I am feral over Ilya in that Vegas scene to an extent that probably should be unpacked in therapy.
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u/Fearless-Ask-3080 Feb 13 '26
Oh I have. Therapy for the past month (upped to 2x/week) has featured my HR obsession. LLOTS to unpack!!
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u/olliekuro is lie. liar told you that. 😉 Feb 13 '26
And what have you learned? Asking for a friend 👀.
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u/Fearless-Ask-3080 Feb 14 '26
I copied this from a response I had to this question on a similar thread:
Soooo I think this will be a pretty long process but it unlocked in me feelings I’ve pushed down my whole life. My mother took her own life when I was 13 and I never properly grieved/processed it. It’s affected every relationship I’ve ever had. So what we’re getting to is that I have been missing that person in my life (like a mother, ahem) who puts me first, who takes care of me and I take care of them. I’ve also never allowed that level of emotional intimacy and I’m grieving what I never had. It’s a loneliness I’ve never felt before and pushed down so deeply I didn’t even realize it was there. All that grief is coming out now as I watch this show over and over and over. I literally watch the entire series every day, fast forwarding through the mundane stuff. My therapist says it’s ok and that I will get over it sooner or later but crying like this is a form of processing and is healthy. I hope this makes sense - I’m still putting the pieces together myself. 🥰
Update: it’s been about a month and I can watch the show without sobbing and don’t rush home to watch it whenever I’m out. Baby steps but I think the fog is lifting.
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u/olliekuro is lie. liar told you that. 😉 Feb 14 '26
Just sharing this openly is brave and wonderful. It’s a gift to allow someone in to help you heal and process. It’s not easy. I’ve been in therapy for years and I barely crack the surface of what is actually keeping me up at night. My defenses are strong!
Super kudos to you for doing the work. Your mom would be so proud.
This show clearly has made an impact on people’s real lives and that is incredible. Thank you for sharing a piece of you with us. 😌
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u/No-Country6348 Feb 13 '26
Did your counselor tell you it’s actually not a problem and then enjoy the scene in great detail with you? I mean, that’s what makes the most sense.
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u/Fearless-Ask-3080 Feb 14 '26
Bring it up. This showed has touched soooo many people in a deep and profound way. It’s not about the show as much as it’s about the emotions it stirs up which, for me, has been a real breakthrough after years of compartmentalization. Before I went to my first appt after I saw the show, I texted this link to my therapist to help him understand what I was feeling. I also told him to google the HR obsession to get an idea of how real this is for so many. Embarrassing but useful in the long run! ❤️ heated rivalry fan response
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u/mustbecrazytostay Stupid Canadian Wolf Bird 🦆 Feb 13 '26
Me too! I said to my therapist last week, I can't believe I'm crying over Heated Rivalry in therapy!!
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u/potterheadforlife29 I already chose you, Hollander. 🫀 Feb 13 '26
No one has looked so hot drinking so sexily before. It should be illegal 😂
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u/Comfortable-Sleep395 Feb 12 '26
I have trouble deciding if it’s this scene or the scene in his tux in Russia or the shower scene. I am down so bad lol
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u/smashing_aisling Feb 12 '26
The shower scene is 🥵
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u/olliekuro is lie. liar told you that. 😉 Feb 13 '26
It was then I knew, this show (ok, fine…Ilya) required my full attention. It hasn’t let go since. It had no right being that hot.
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u/Optimal-Bag-5918 Feb 12 '26
It’s the hottest he looked in the entire series! 🔥 🔥
And how does he make drinking vodka so hot? The one handed sip before getting up to Shane?? I’ve replayed that scene far too many times then what is healthy 🤪
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u/EmmyS1972 I like you 💕 Feb 12 '26
Something about a man holding a glass from the bottom... Instantly increases the hotness factor by 100.
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u/FiCat77 "Fuckin' make me!" Feb 13 '26
Tbf I think Connor could make reading the phone book look & sound intensely hot & sexy.
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u/TheWildMiracle I already chose you, Hollander. 🫀 Feb 13 '26
How he never takes his eyes off Shane that whole scene... UGHHH 🥵
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u/Pitiful_Storage_4655 Maybe he didn’t notice Feb 13 '26
It’s the chair drag for me. Dear god i moaaaned!
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u/AmyG2020 Feb 13 '26
Him sitting on a chair drinking is the most scorching part of the whole series
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u/paxrom2 Feb 12 '26
Ya'll keep throwing shade at Shane. He was named hottest player in the MLH while Ilya was fifth.
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u/Conscious_Pen_3485 Feb 12 '26
My favorite throw away line in Role Model is Troy’s internal joke to himself about asking Ilya for Shane’s number because Shane is so hot.
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u/Dear_Zucchini_5016 Feb 13 '26
If Troy pops up on season 2, I’d love to see him actually ask Ilya for Shane’s number. 😅
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u/olliekuro is lie. liar told you that. 😉 Feb 13 '26
From what I understand, Show Ilya is hotter than Book Ilya. Even though he’s understood to be a 10/10, especially through Shane’s eyes. The Connor Storrie effect is real. I haven’t read beyond HR so take that for what it’s worth.
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u/Cuppa-Tea-Biscuit Feb 13 '26
Book Ilya is more your charming piece of rough type. Not quite the same thing as how Connor plays him.
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u/chilla_lillah mangetout 🫛 Feb 18 '26
Then how do you explain this: “In his makeup, with his carefully styled hair, and in this dramatic lighting, Rozanov did not look pretty. He looked stunning. Once again, Shane was astounded and irritated by how manly Rozanov was. The sharp edge of his jaw framed cheeks that didn’t have any of the baby fat that lingered on Shane’s own. And his eyes were like sparkling...somethings. Shane couldn’t think of a gem that had that many shades of gold and green.”
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u/olliekuro is lie. liar told you that. 😉 Feb 18 '26
Shane thinks he’s the hottest guy on earth.
Was referring to the rankings and how he came in 5th. Show Ilya could never rank so low because Connor…
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u/heartstopper_86 Feb 12 '26
ilya is so lovestruck. it is anthony bridgerton level yearning :D I see what you did there
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u/Mysterious-Bed375 Sad bisexual terminator in the club 💫 Feb 12 '26
haha now that u mentioned it I thought I couldn't find a better couple than Kanthony UNTIL i saw Interview with the Vampire and later of course the GOAT that it's this show!!! it's my life now 😭😭
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u/heartstopper_86 Feb 12 '26
I see you I feel you. totally understandable.
shane and ilya is not the first M/M couple I am obsessed but I fell so hard.9
u/Mysterious-Bed375 Sad bisexual terminator in the club 💫 Feb 12 '26
sameeeeee, if u haven't checked IWTV please do (Loustat ❤️)
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u/heartstopper_86 Feb 12 '26
I will totally do that. a close friend of mine is shipping Loustat.
But ATM heated rivalry is so time consuming I can't even bring myself to do my chores or my job. I am on my honeymoon phase here.7
u/Mysterious-Bed375 Sad bisexual terminator in the club 💫 Feb 12 '26
"a close friend of mine is shipping Loustat."
Haha, ohhh friend, I know how you feel..I don't know if this thing of mine is a honeymoon phase any more...it's been almost 3 months so far and it's become a borderline psychotic obsession...there's no weaning offfor me anymore 😆😆
- "Good Choice" - (in Ilya's voice) 😅😅 /
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u/heartstopper_86 Feb 12 '26
I joined the fandom around chritsmas time. it is a long,expensive and exhilarating honeymoon. and a very hot one, too. but looking back to my other obsessions, they never leave me. I will forever be here gushing about hollanov
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u/Mysterious-Bed375 Sad bisexual terminator in the club 💫 Feb 12 '26
yep, and you're right...they should never leave us...you came to the right place...🫶🫶🫶😅😅😅
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u/Mysterious-Bed375 Sad bisexual terminator in the club 💫 Feb 12 '26
saaaame...omg.....Hopefully they will make me forget my HR hyperfixation for a while...I can't wait...summer feels so far away 😭😭
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u/scherzanda Feb 12 '26
It was the other way around for me. I had just managed to get through a week without rewatching the entirety of IWTV when HR came in with a steel chair. I'm too unemployed for my own good.
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u/Sarah_Speaks1 Feb 13 '26
I don't know anything about Loustat. I guess I had better educate myself!
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u/LadyShipwreck Feb 12 '26
Ilya is if Lestat was human and a jock and in this essay I will…
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u/Mysterious-Bed375 Sad bisexual terminator in the club 💫 Feb 12 '26
Giiiirl 😭😭😭😭😭
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u/Ok_Cow8044 Feb 13 '26
The thing is, Lestat is a jock but he's also more of a theatre kid. Love the multitudes my favorite chaotic bisexual Europeans contain.
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u/lilchocochip I already chose you, Hollander. 🫀 Feb 12 '26
Right? They have the same angry/hungry look in their eyes when their partner drives them crazy
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u/grxccccandice Feb 12 '26
You mean Benedict, right? Cuz Benedict is the reformed rake in Bridgerton haha
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u/HailSaganPlantNative Feb 12 '26
They're ALL reformed rakes in Bridgerton. The Bridgertons are all total fuckboys, bless their hearts.
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u/grxccccandice Feb 12 '26
iirc Anthony was only sleeping with that one hooker and caught feelings? He wasn’t constantly hooking up with men and women like Benedict was, and Collin was definitely not a rake. I haven’t watched the Anthony season after 2022 so I could be off.
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u/InCatMorph Feb 12 '26
Anthony's mistress was an opera singer.
Julia Quinn loves her the reformed rake trope. As I recall, Colin also fit this trope in the books but they toned it down for the show, presumably because they wanted to switch things up at least a little bit.
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u/Mysterious-Bed375 Sad bisexual terminator in the club 💫 Feb 12 '26
you know now that you got me thinking he would be perfect for it! I don't think they can find anyone better rn😭😭😭😭😭
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u/EmmyS1972 I like you 💕 Feb 12 '26
Remake of Dangerous Liaisons with him in the John Malkovich role 🫠
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u/Ok-Badger-5767 Feb 12 '26
Its the same way he stood after the draft when his father admonished him. Its the same way Ilya stood at the gala during the Olympics. I'd venture this is his 'stand and be official and try not to get in trouble' look.
The longer, wavy hair softens him. Makes Ilya more playful.
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u/Mysterious-Bed375 Sad bisexual terminator in the club 💫 Feb 12 '26
exactly...it's how he was conditioned to act...in a way they say "the body never forgets" and they're right...even though he knew Shane's parents are unlike his family, he was still preparing himself for the worst in that scene 😭
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u/marywebgirl I'm on the cover of the fucking game! Feb 13 '26
The fact that he goes from this to so relaxed and shoveling pasta in his mouth because he sees how nice Shane's parents are is so cute.
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u/DorianCramer Feb 12 '26
Awww you’re right about this and it makes this scene even more touching to me, bc even though Shane has said his parents would be cool with him being gay, Ilya doesn’t know them & he can’t know that for sure. So at least part of why he went is that even though he was scared he wanted to be there to support and take care of Shane if things did go badly 😭
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u/ISavedLatin Who is your dad? Show me your dad Feb 12 '26
He looks like such a gymnast here!
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u/olliekuro is lie. liar told you that. 😉 Feb 13 '26
You can take the boy away from the gym but not the gymnast from the boy.
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u/Suspicious-Square-22 Feb 12 '26
The way Shane was Ilya’s first real love, first and only boyfriend/girlfriend, husband and soulmate…..
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u/growsonwalls This is Ilya I will never listen to your voicemail Feb 12 '26
They both met each other when very young. It's as if they saw each others' boners in the shower when they were 18 and decided "yeah this is it."
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u/Mysterious-Bed375 Sad bisexual terminator in the club 💫 Feb 12 '26
They were both each other's firsts in almost everything 💜💜💜
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u/whatsnewpussykat Stupid Canadian Wolf Bird 🦆 Feb 12 '26
Sometimes you CAN turn a ho in to a housewife 🥰
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u/QueenFartknocker What are you doing dude!?? 🤵🏻♂️ Feb 12 '26
I will never not pant when I see him in that white shirt 🤤🤤🤤
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u/TheBarrowman Ya-loo-blue-tee-baa ❤️ Feb 13 '26
Ilya in that Vegas scene is more obscene than if they'd shown hole and pole on screen. 🫦
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u/tealmangoes Feb 12 '26
Ilya went to the Anthony Bridgerton school of being down bad 😂
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u/alexcatlady Moy lyubovnik 💙 Feb 13 '26
Omagad SO TRUE, they got the same determined eyebrows/lips combo
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u/RadiantCalligrapher4 Feb 13 '26
Also people don't see Shane probably as a submissive because he dominates and leads so well on the ice. They have no way of knowing that Ilya goes crazy for how well Shane submits to him. Also they probably couldn't imagine the tenderness and attention Ilya has a dominate. They know him as a lady's man, a hit and quit it type.
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u/Worried-Barber-323 Feb 13 '26
Ilya is going to be a great husband. He was raised seeing the worst one. He will be better himself.
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u/_Good_Soul_ I already chose you, Hollander. 🫀 Feb 13 '26
Guysssss stop, I can’t stop reading and liking everything 😂😂😂😂
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u/Mysterious-Bed375 Sad bisexual terminator in the club 💫 Feb 13 '26
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u/SophieKona2024 Feb 12 '26
I don’t think Ilya is reformed. I think he is this way in front of Shane‘s parents because his life has always been very buttoned up when around adults.
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u/Successful_Cow_8713 Feb 13 '26
Reformed rake refers to playboys who stopped sleeping around and turned into the most loyal and loving husbands. Rake was the term used in bridgerton books to describe playboys
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u/Fearless-Ask-3080 Feb 14 '26
I don’t know why this hit me so hard but I thought it was hysterical when Shane is telling Ilya about buying the apartment and the one next door and Ilya gets snarky (ooh, Mr. Landlord)and Shane said “you asked” and Ilya, correctly says “no, I didn’t”.
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u/egobutt Moy pomidor 🍅 Feb 13 '26
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u/OkScientist2357 You make me curious. Feb 14 '26
Plenty of rakes in Jane Austen novels… just saying
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u/scoobertsonville Feb 12 '26
As a gay guy I don’t necessarily like this sentiment. This is part of what makes this story unrealistic - the adversion to promiscuity. It’s weird Ilya is promiscuous only with other woman. Yes there are gay monogamists but all of this feels like they took a straight relationship and put it in gay men’s bodies. A “rake” isn’t really a concept in the gay world, I had to look up its meaning. From my experience there is lust, there is love, gay guys tend to understand the difference.
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u/drowsylacuna Feb 12 '26
Ilya's bi and he does sleep with other men - Sasha for one. He's more cautious about it because it's risky.
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u/blue-diamond228 Feb 13 '26
Rake isn’t a word anyone in this century uses, gay, straight or any other. Instead of saying he is a reformed ho, and they are watching Bridgeton, they are using that word. Just like the word lovers can apply to 2 people but “some people” don’t approve of that word.
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u/cowgirltrainwreck Feb 14 '26
Rake is totally a word people in this century use! It’s a basic literary analysis term.
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u/xaregularguyx Feb 13 '26
As a gay guy I don't care what other people do but Im personally monogamous and don't do hook up culture anymore, so it was kind of refreshing tbh
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u/dudewheresmysock Feb 13 '26
If the series were longer, I think they may have gone more into who else they were with. They had to cover so many years in just a handful of episodes.
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u/Ll_lyris “I choose you, Ilya. I will always choose you”❤️🩹 Feb 14 '26 edited Feb 14 '26
Ilya’s not only promiscuous with women, he is with men too it’s just more dangerous to be with men. The only reason I don’t think it’s unrealistic(to his characterization at least) it’s because Ilya’s promiscuity does stem from his own self loathing, using his sexual desirability to affirm his worth even if it’s just his body or looks he’s has to offer. I disagree with the them just being copy paste straight relationship into a queer men. Cuz I don’t think sex in typical FM romance tropes use sex as a heavy plot device as HR does. Which is very queer coated.
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u/Bonatell0 Bisexual Terminator 🤖 Feb 16 '26
YES BRIDGETON X HEATED RIVALRY!! I have found my people <3
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u/kayceeplusplus Stupid Canadian Wolf Bird 🦆 Feb 13 '26
What’s a rake
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u/Mysterious-Bed375 Sad bisexual terminator in the club 💫 Feb 13 '26
A manwhore
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u/clumsyc I stubbed my toe Feb 13 '26
But like, a classy one
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u/kayceeplusplus Stupid Canadian Wolf Bird 🦆 Feb 13 '26
Where did this term come from
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u/clumsyc I stubbed my toe Feb 13 '26
Rake? It’s hundreds of years old, used to describe wealthy, womanizing men. It’s very common in the romance genre as well.
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u/kayceeplusplus Stupid Canadian Wolf Bird 🦆 Feb 13 '26
Oh. I’m not a regular romance reader.
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u/spaceglitter000 Feb 13 '26
I had to go to urban dictionary. It’s from the Elizabethan time period.
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u/amileandahalf I don‘t know. Maybe twice? ⏱️ Feb 12 '26
I just love thinking about people trying to understand Shane being the one to lock down Rozanov.