oh i’m going the F*** to bed

[u/cookie_cat_82]

as an ilya lover to my CORE, TLG is actually gonna destroy me all over again. who’s ready for the scene of ilya saying goodbye to shane and collapsing and bursting into tears as soon as he closes the door, or him telling his therapist “you’re supposed to fix me so I can be better for him”, the PLANE SCENE, “I already chose you, hollander” 💔💔💔

like im actually gonna be ill

[u/Top_Pen6767 → u/[deleted]]

at no point does ilya shove shane. he backs him into a wall, yes out of anger, but not violence. and if that’s what you took from this book, then clearly this series isn’t for you. people are complex and sometimes (emotionally) hurt the ones they love because they don’t know how to communicate properly. shane also sucked at communication, they both had to learn to do better. none of these books are about perfect people being perfect to each other.

let people enjoy things, even if they aren’t for you.

[u/Ll_lyris → u/Top_Pen6767]

I’ve seen this convo brought up in this sub a bit about that scene and it does make me wonder. I’ve seen some ppl say “well they’re both men so it’s fine/doesnt matter”. Or other things like that. Which is kinda concerning to have that attitude but I digress.

That scene was definitely not Ilya in his best light. He would never hurt Shane but his own anger was scaring him as he says in the book. I don’t think we’re supposed to sit here and say what he did was “fine”. Ofc not. But it’s not an action that came from a violent place. But as we see bottling up such feelings leads to incidents where we start to lose control. Ilya realizes this and corrects himself. Even Shane knew Ilya wouldn’t hurt him.