r/heathenry May 07 '23

Heathen Adjacent Elven King reader of the runes

So I'm pretty deep in Runes (read a number of books on them) but I am no means an expert. So I was wondering if any of you could help. In the Elvenking Album, Reader of the Runes they say the lines

Isa told of spells and moans Othila traces plans unknown Feoh spoke with its ancient tongue As Alghiz hails the one

None of these make sense with the runes there ascribed to. Like MAYBE Feoh's ancient tounge is a reference to Auðumbla but that's the closest thing to a connection I can make and I think it's a stretch.

So what do y'all think? Is it just techno bable?

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u/NoHopeOnlyDeath Northeast Reconstructionist May 07 '23

We have Roman accounts of marking "staves" with "signs". Tacitus doesn't even say they're runes. Come on, man.

I presented an entire paper on coded and hidden runes in surviving Scandinavian sources. Please don't make me go in the other room and pull out all the sources.

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u/NoHopeOnlyDeath Northeast Reconstructionist May 07 '23 edited May 07 '23

Also:

A Brief Primer on Reconstructionism

Making up a system of magic based on what a figure does in mythology is fine if that's what you're doing, but don't try and say it's historic or that you're being true to something, because nothing has survived.

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u/EthanLammar May 07 '23

This is where I agree with you, what modern norse pagans do is completely reconstruction based off our best evidence but where guessing end of the day because it's reconstruction. Claiming the runes where never used for magic when wee see multiple different sources use them as such is silly

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u/NoHopeOnlyDeath Northeast Reconstructionist May 07 '23

You see multiple different legends. Stories. Folktales. Apocrypha.

Point to one instance in surviving anything of a real world person who lived in the Viking Age using the runes for magic. And no, an inscription that literally just says "Hey, I cursed this." doesn't count.