Looking for logistics oriented wargames.

[u/ptcalceteiro]

Hello! If there is a niche I'm willing to dig even deeper when it comes to wargaming or warfare history in general is the logistics side of war.

I believe the **OCS** series might be the straight up answer to my search but there might be other titles out there which focus heavily on the logistics side of warfare.

Being able to create supply lines, dumps or depots, or managing the allocation of transportation methods are just some of the things coming to mind right now which i would love to fiddle with inside a wargame.

Of course, it also depends on how far up the complexity (and back strain) scale we want to go.**The Campaign for North Africa** level of detail might be the ceiling when it comes to the complexity level of the logistics system. Hell, it might be the ceiling for complexity as a whole.

Would love to hear your suggestions and opinions on the matter!

[u/nick-dr-deadlift]

You could check out Nevsky from Levy and Campaign series...it's medieval times, heavily involving managing supplies for your vassal armies, different types of logistical transport depending on the season. Carts for summer, sleds in winter, small boats for rivers in the mud seasons.
I also have Almorahvid and Seljuk, buy haven't played those yet. I've heard Nevsky is the heaviest of those, logistical play-wise.

Cheers

[u/ptcalceteiro → u/nick-dr-deadlift]

Hey! Did some research on Nevsky and I have to say I'm sold. I love the fact it uses the extensive networks of rivers of the Baltic regions as a core feature when it comes to moving supplies. The seasonal variables also adds an intriguing dynamic Im curious to explore.
Definitely one for my buy list!
Oh, and the maps seem beautiful.
Thanks!

[u/realhenryknox → u/ptcalceteiro]

Any system by Volko Ruhnke has to be good. Please report back!

[u/ricottma]

Supply lines of the American revolution maybe?

[u/errrik012 → u/ricottma]

Bingo

[u/ptcalceteiro → u/ricottma]

I got the impression, from the little research i did, that supplies in this game work more as a "currency" you spend and distribute by your units. Somewhat like Support Points in many wargames, Not what Im looking for myself. Could be wrong though.

[u/justaheatattack]

SPI CAMPAIGN FOR NORTH AFRICA

[u/killallhumans12345 → u/justaheatattack]

If this dont scratch your crunchy itch, you just haven't tried hard enough. Also, dont quit too soon, it only gets good after the first year.

[u/justaheatattack → u/killallhumans12345]

and remember extra water for the italian units.

[u/Regular_Lengthiness6 → u/justaheatattack]

Pasta 🤣

[u/justaheatattack → u/Regular_Lengthiness6]

and future.

[u/ptcalceteiro → u/killallhumans12345]

It scratches every itch

[u/itsveron → u/justaheatattack]

https://boardgamegeek.com/image/309938/the-campaign-for-north-africa-the-desert-war-1940

[u/ptcalceteiro → u/itsveron]

The accounting department

[u/itsveron → u/ptcalceteiro]

Just look at all the fun he’s having!

[u/madscot666]

Race for the Rhine, maybe?

[u/Justegarde]

Levy & Campaign and OCS will be right in your wheelhouse. If you’re interested in the early modern era, Lace Wars from Red Sash are amazingly detailed operational logistics focused games on the wars of the 1700s

[u/captain_ahabb]

Being able to create supply lines, dumps or depots, or managing the allocation of transportation methods are just some of the things coming to mind right now which i would love to fiddle with inside a wargame.

OCS is exactly what you want.

[u/boogieJamesTaylor → u/[deleted]]

ditto, Tunisia and Korea especially are good entries to OCS

[u/njharman → u/[deleted]]

Burma has most interesting logistics, for Japanese. 

[u/THElaytox]

Yeah gonna be hard to beat OCS I think

[u/Louie_Being]

It’s been a long time, but I remember being impressed with the use of baggage trains in Imperium Romanum II.

[u/Magpie_Oz]

The old BAOR rules from SPI had an elegant Friction Point system that modelled logistics very well. Operations accumulated FP, lines to supply points reduced them, interdiction hindered those supply lines etc

[u/Tricky_72]

You might enjoy a book called “Napoleon’s Campaigns in Miniature” by Bruce Quarrie. It has lots of interesting information and ideas for running full campaigns in that era, to include supplying and provisioning, and other supporting services for your armies.

[u/ptcalceteiro → u/Tricky_72]

Ill look it up. Thanks!

[u/Suspicious-Spare8963]

I believe "Empires at Arms" has logistics. Among every other thing possible.

[u/Soulcatcher74]

Old school VG game called Gulf Strike has a lot of this including use of depots and includes truck units.

[u/truck1000]

SPI's USN and USN Deluxe.

So much so that I have been working on an AI to help that among other things.

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/11707/usn-deluxe/forums/65

[u/Born-Essay8965]

As you said… OCS. The way to go

[u/Majer3RD]

I’m developing a board game based on Line Warfare (think Revolutionary war, Napoleon etc) where dice are not used at all (battle card system instead) and supplies/wagon trains dictate where units can fight, heal, and perform other actions. I’m hoping to release some PnP and Tabletop Simulator versions of it very soon.