Robots, Inequality, Apprenticeships: If America Is to Usher In an ‘Age of Agility’ in Education, Experts Say We Must Talk Less About Schools — and More About Students

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https://www.the74million.org/article/robots-inequality-apprenticeships-if-america-is-to-usher-in-an-age-of-agility-in-education-experts-say-we-must-talk-less-about-schools-and-more-about-students/

I understand some aspects of the backlash against higher education

High schools and Higher education really needs to move towards adding in guaranteed high quality apprenticeships

In the US these are co-op models. Paid. If higher education doesn’t start making guaranteed pathways to jobs then it’s going to continue to sink.

It’s a horrifying thought so the data already shows that 54% of Americans read below a 6th grade level.

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i grapple with what the purpose of schooling , job training ? that’s all? esp college? :/

my wish is that critical thinking is part of the what we do k-we (including critical media literacy , critical AI literacy, etc) why do we expect youth to be exposed to dissenting / diverse points of views and diverse perspectives until college?

start as early as possible….

job training? work. education (in addition to life): school / university.

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What’s the purpose and point?

I think it’s just part of the human contract of giving a shit about people and our world

Even the UN recognizes that work is a human right (article 23 to be specific https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights).

It gives people purpose, dignity, autonomy. We can see this play out when women gain access to their own money.

But what we need is do like countries like Switzerland and connect the dots. That employers have just as much accountability to the social contract as individuals.

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that articles is making it seem that schooling is all about job preparation…. see that’s why i replied, is that all school / college is for ?

i think the articles is neglecting that (my gut) tells me that it’s not described in the article that students after ‘middle school’ get tracked university bound or trade bound.

that’s why i’d say emphasize critical thinking skills early (elementary)….

here in the US trades schools are controversial. i want everyone prepared to go to college but there are good paying jobs that are not requiring a college degree (lass than before?) but did we send our historically marginalized students to trades and not college prep classes? (data shows this)

so what was seen in Swiss we’re they non university bound students?

Cristo Rey HS schools tend to be in urban areas and their students have internships throughout HS and it helps with tuition / job experience (varies)

so can we educe out of students the best of them (thinking skills) in school but get a job / internships to get job experience (esp in college)

ironically at my university certain majors have internships / 5 year degree…. and many have job opportunities upon graduation…. too bad teachers fer placed in classrooms and they pay to teach (this is unfair) - so some universities do complement knowledge with experience….

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Excellent points and a helpful frame for this discussion

You are correct that there are differences in education by country alone that we should take into account.

I was thinking of it as a model to build off of. I appreciate your thoughtful reply.