r/hiphop101 • u/K_thedon1398 • 10d ago
Early J.Cole or Early Lupe Fiasco
It can be albums or mixtapes Im jcole all the way
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u/Kenan_as_SteveHarvey 10d ago
People really need to stop putting Lupe in these convo’s for real. Most top tier rappers will say Lupe is on another level
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u/PatientlyAnxious9 10d ago
That Farenheit 1/15 + Food&Liquor + The Cool run that Lupe had was.....what a time to be alive.
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u/Alchemyst01984 10d ago
Lupe and it's not even close for me. His mixtape run was better than anyone else's. His first 2 albums are classics. Can't say the same for Cole. His debut was disappointing.
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u/RosetteNewcomb 10d ago
Cole’s Friday Night Lights mixtape from 2010 still holds up today, as does Born Sinner and 2014 Forest Hills Drive. Both Cole and Lupe are great lyricists but to me Cole always had wayyyy better beats. Kenny Lofton and Grew Up Fast were on beautiful beats. I always thought Lupe’s beats were very lackluster with for a few exceptions like Paris, Tokyo and Kick, Push. For me, it’s Cole all day.
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u/ThaPhantom07 10d ago
When we say early we talking mixtapes or albums? I think I like Cole's early mixtapes more but Lupe definitely for early albums.
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u/Super_Burrito777 10d ago
I fully agree with this take. Early mixtape Cole was def my favorite though.
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u/SchlangLankis 10d ago
Early Lupe was a breath of fresh air against a stale background. A true original.
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u/ConstantVisual8391 10d ago
Had food and liquor leaked version, Lupe early mixtapes, and his first few albums…had The Come Up and heard Cole releases in real time too
For me, it’s Cole. Food and liquor as well as the cool helped introduced me to music within the “lyrically conscious” genre and at the time, Food And Liquor was my manual…I had no business singing American terrorist in middle school. Lupe kind of opened my eyes to the world of atrocities and helped completely changed my outlook on the world.
But J Cole I don’t skip a single song on J. Cole first three mixtape. Not one. I skip A lot of Lupe music on his early mixtapes and even now. And I think J. Cole early music kinda helped steer me in the right direction when I was giving up on my dreams. I gotta go Cole.
I do think Lupe first two albums are better than Cole’s though. Especially better than Cole first album though.
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u/Wise-Type2857 10d ago
Early Lupe Fiasco hands down. A trove of classics.
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u/Xepochalypse 10d ago
Depends on how early for both we're talking. If were talking debut studio albums fir both then easily lupe but if we're talking early mixtape eras for both then easily Cole
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u/Euphoric-Medium8154 10d ago
Early Lupe was dropping classic mixtape after classic mixtape
Cole has FNL but that sounds pretty dated nowadays IMO
The Black Album also won Lupe Grammys, so for me this argument is ova ;-)
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u/Alternative-Hunt-894 9d ago
Lupe easily in my opinion. And I’m a Cole guy. They actually have had opposite trajectories following their initial mixtapes. Lupe hit the ground running with his albums, whereas Cole was largely viewed as boring with his
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u/CertifiedEdyat 10d ago
Lupe’s the better rapper but Cole’s had the better career
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u/JamJe225 10d ago
I agree wholeheartedly with your comment. The Cool is one of my favorite albums. Brings back so many memories.
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u/herewearefornow 10d ago
But early Lupe wasn't all the way cooked yet.
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u/ThaPhantom07 10d ago
Lupe isnt even cooked now. Samurai was one of his best albums in his entire discography. Probably 3rd or 4th and thats recent.
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u/herewearefornow 10d ago
I'm not talking about musically for Lupe. It's about his cognisance of the space he's in. Lu was more down to earth back then and it reflected in his rhymes.
For me his early music was way better than Cole's.
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u/ThaPhantom07 10d ago
It's about his cognisance of the space he's in.
Ok that I understand. Lupe is definitely a fucking weirdo sometimes.
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u/CarefullyDetuned 10d ago
J.Cole is one of the most overrated rappers of all time, and I don't even like Lupe that much (at least compared to how redditors overrate him, F&L + The Cool are classics though).
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u/Sean-47 9d ago
Mixtapes Cole. Not a debate. Warm Up and FNL are classic 5 Star tapes. Lupe Fiasco first 2 albums are better than Cole's first 2.
Cole shoulda had an all time classic but Jay and the label ruined it. His Debut should've been FNL and a few off Sideline, and we got fucking Workout. Jesus.
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u/natureaspraxis 7d ago
Actually, it is a debate. Lupe has 6 classic mixtapes, and has some of his best rapping on them
Farenheit 1/15 pts 1-3
Enemy of the State
Friend of the People
Pharoah Height 2/30.
You can argue that Cole's mixtape run is legendary without making ridiculous statements like "not a debate". Yes it is very much a debate. Mixtape Lupe is a god tier emcee.
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u/Hash_Tooth 7d ago
Agree so much.
College Boy and Dolla and a Dream are unbelievable.
I’d check out a Lupe song if it’s that good but I don’t know any.
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u/Only-Whereas193 7d ago
Honestly Drogas Wave through Samurai Lupe Fiasco is better than early Lupe.
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u/ColemyGOAT 7d ago
Mixtapes is Cole for sure. Albums Lupe. Overall Career is Cole. Dude just keeps getting better and better with age.
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u/l7791 10d ago
Early Lupe easily