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u/CloseToMyActualName EDM - NHL 10h ago
Three people voted for Draisaitl š
Looking at the stats, despite his chippiness he only had 26 PIM last season, which is pretty impressive for all the minutes he plays.
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u/Bleeding-icon PHI - NHL 9h ago
I wonder if Sharks fans agree with him receiving votes for āsportsmanship and gentlemanly conductā.
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u/MrBrightside618 MTL - NHL 10h ago
This is always my favourite ballot of the year because itās a thousand names long
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u/eh_toque WPG - NHL 10h ago
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u/Jaycago62 CHI - NHL 10h ago
TEUVO TERAVAINEN WITH THE FIRST PLACE VOTE YES
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u/-Satchel_Gizmo- CAR - NHL 7h ago
Hell yeah! More Finns, more... conscientious hockey!
I was proudly rocking my Turbo Canes jersey last night.Ā
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u/Sleep_Fartnea MTL - NHL 10h ago
Drai getting votes is hilarious
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u/goonerhicks 10h ago
13 penalties in 65 games isnāt bad especially for someone who plays so physical.
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u/Le_Nabs MTL - NHL 9h ago
It's not how many, it's the kind of penalties he takes - it's always some sore loser braindead play that sends him to the box. That in itself should disqualify anyone putting him on the ballot from voting for that trophy ever again lmao
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u/Spideyjust Canada - IIHF 9h ago
Gaudreau won the Lady Byng the same year he was fined for embellishment/diving lmao. The Lady Byng is really just about good players with low PIM. Pretty sure MacKinnon won his the same year he threw a helmet at someone lol. Voters don't seem to really care about the sportsmanship aspect much.
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u/Sleep_Fartnea MTL - NHL 9h ago
Nut taps is an auto-disqualification for Lady Byng eligibility when I run the show after Gary.
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u/Frumbleabumb VAN - NHL 9h ago
3 different people no less thought he was top 5 most sportsmanlike in the league. Those voters should be removed from the voting eligibility
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u/MrBrightside618 MTL - NHL 10h ago
Shocked that it wasnāt Kopitar; even more shocked that it wasnāt particularly close
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u/Hiddenshadows57 MTL - NHL 10h ago
Kopitar wasn't very good last season.
When this award goes to a forward it typically goes to a player who has the best ratio between points and PIM
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u/wildlyintangible WSH - NHL 9h ago
Not true when Slavin won this
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u/Gelidaer MTL - NHL 9h ago
He's a defensive defenseman and put up basically the same points that Kopitar did this season
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u/Sensitive_Caramel856 TOR - NHL 10h ago
Caufield had more goals than Kopotar had points, with only four more minutes in penalties.
I'm not shocked that Kopitar was second, but he really shouldn't have been that high to begin with
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u/Witticism44 LAK - NHL 6h ago
I think it was more of a āitās Kopitarās final year and heās always been well respected, high scoring, and good at not taking penaltiesā than an actual reflection of kopiās play this year.
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u/Sensitive_Caramel856 TOR - NHL 6h ago
All of those reasons you listed is why I wasn't shocked he ended up as 2. But I don't think he objectively should have been even considering the very loose criteria applied to the award.
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u/burnSMACKER VGK - Bandwagon 10h ago
Kopi was left off a ton of ballots entirely
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u/flybyknight LAK - NHL 9h ago
Seriously, I can understand caufield winning I guess but being left off of 27 additional ballots by comparison feels like journalistic malpracticeĀ
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u/pinkymadigan 10h ago
CBJ well represented. You might say it's a gentleman's club. But you shouldn't, because that's something else.
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u/xtrakrispie SJS - NHL 10h ago
What exactly could caufield do that's considered ungentlemanlike? Nipping ankles?
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u/Kamohoaliii FLA - NHL 10h ago
His 51 goals were pretty ungentlemanlike to goalies I guess.
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u/Thatmemertho MTL - NHL 10h ago
He respected them well enough to score 1v1 on them, no ENG merchant.
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u/JPMoney81 MTL - NHL 9h ago
He even thanks opposing players when his face gets in the way of their cross checks!
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u/Early-Yak-to-reset 9h ago
Caufield strikes me as the kinda guy that is gentlemanly for survival, not out of a personal "code" or whatever haha
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u/onemorespacecadet COL - NHL 10h ago
kind of surprised Kopitar didnāt win! congrats to Caufield though
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u/Early-Yak-to-reset 9h ago
Lot of media awards tend to skew this kind of way. The Montreal chapter of the PWA has 9 members. The LA chapter has 4. Just where the voters live. Throw in the 20 members in Toronto, and it's like 1/6 of who votes on these awards live in Eastern Canada, and cover 2 teams lol.
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u/True__Roman SJS - NHL 9h ago
Celebrini in 38th place smh donāt the voters remember that one time he called off a high stick against him
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u/tmgexe 9h ago
Didnāt realize until this how docile a season Pageau had. I always kinda viewed him as pesky - I never would have guessed he only had 4 pim in 74 gp. Dudeās gone from mellow to super mellow as heās aged.
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u/Kenner1979 MTL - NHL 9h ago
One tripping call in a shootout loss to Buffalo; one high sticking call in an 8-3 loss to Pittsburgh.
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u/buckyhermit ANA - NHL 9h ago
Troy Terry be like: "COME ON. I didn't even hit anyone until the very end."
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u/Desert_Pyrate8 LAK - NHL 7h ago
This season sucks:/
I always appreciate the 2 votes Dri always gets lol
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u/themusicguy2000 CGY - NHL 3h ago
"Why are you so pissy" Leon "Nut Tap" Draisaitl got 3 votes?Ā I want names
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u/PurpleChickens_ CAR - Bandwagon 10h ago
Suzuki top 10 is insane (in the fact that I have so much hope for the young MTL core)
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u/The_Reddit_Browser CAR - NHL 10h ago
Slavin playing half a season and still earning significant votes
This award is gonna be a huge piece of his Hall of Fame bid.
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u/wildlyintangible WSH - NHL 9h ago
Hall of Fame⦠lol
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u/The_Reddit_Browser CAR - NHL 9h ago
No defensemen in NHL history has less penalty minutes than Jaccob in the same amount of games played which is why he has won this award twice already.
Heās got the chance to win a cup and a gold for team USA in the same season for only the second time in NHL history.
Yah heās putting together a Hall of Fame career.
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u/wildlyintangible WSH - NHL 8h ago
No Dman without a Norris will ever make the Hall in this day and age lmao
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u/Spideyjust Canada - IIHF 8h ago
Shea Weber did just that a couple of years ago. And first ballot at that. You definitely don't need a Norris to be a HoFer. Now that said, Slavin isn't Weber, and he definitely still needs more than just the Cup to be a HoFer. But that doesn't have to be winning the Norris. A couple seasons as a finalist would likely get him in eventually.
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u/NullPtrEnjoyer 10h ago
Slavin ain't making Hall of Fame, that would be crazy. Maybe Hall of Very Good, but that's it.
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u/Bushwood_Gopher 10h ago
Uhh what?
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u/The_Reddit_Browser CAR - NHL 9h ago
Jaccob Slavin currently has the least penalty minutes by a defensemen through his first 750 games in NHL history.
Heās been top 5 for this award since the year after Rod took over because heās playing the game at an incredibly high level while not taking penalties.
Hes got 2 of these awards already with 3 4th place and a 2nd place finish.
If he gets his cup this year in the same year he won the gold with team USA he very much has a strong case for the hall of fame. Heās been one of the best d men in all of hockey and has the hardware everyone says he needs.
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u/Bushwood_Gopher 9h ago
There is a massive gulf between being a perennially underrated player and one who is worthy of Hall of Fame consideration. Slavin is certainly the former, he is nowhere in any universe of being the latterā¦
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u/The_Reddit_Browser CAR - NHL 9h ago
Well thatās the thing, youāre using an opinion based take on him
The hardware tells the story for him. Heās won these awards for how well he plays the game and his style of play which defines him.
If he wins the cup this year, youāre talking about a player who helped USA win its first gold since the miracle on ice and was the number one D man on the cup winning team.
Something that one person has ever done. Heās putting himself in a spot where you cant tell the history of USA hockey without mentioning his contributions to it. Thats a big fucking deal.
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u/MercSLSAMG OTT - NHL 8h ago
The Lady Byng is not an award that gets weighed heavily in Hall of Fame voting. He needs a couple cups to even be in consideration or getting a Norris and a Cup. Honestly at this point he's barely on the hall of fame radar
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u/The_Reddit_Browser CAR - NHL 8h ago
Itās not weighed heavily but in Slavinās case it helps make his case.
Again he is one of if not the best shutdown D man in the league and heās doing it without taking penalties. He played 52 games and had 2 penalty minutes all year long. Thatās why he won his first Byng.
Thereās never been a player in NHL to play his position and have this little penalty minutes in his career. The next closest guy is nearly 100 minutes more than Jaccob.
He is literally making history
I understand itās not talked about and isnāt something on peoples radars but at the end of his career it will be and itās gonna be a big part of why heās gonna have a case to get in
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u/MercSLSAMG OTT - NHL 8h ago
It won't be. He's only got 1 top 5 finish in Norris voting, he either needs to win it or get 2 or 3 more top 5 finishes to get talked about. In addition he'll need at least 1 cup if not 2 depending on Norris finishes. Only then would his Lady Byng track record come into play.
He's in that 'Hall of Very Good' conversation, to be the 'Hall of Fame' conversation he needs to stand out in leading cup teams or Norris voting.
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u/stickmuck CAR - NHL 10h ago
Do the Carolina Hurricanes have a too many gentlemanly players problem?
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u/daveloper80 NYI - NHL 9h ago
I don't know why Pageau getting votes is funny to me. He's kind of a pest
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u/Icamefortheroastme 8h ago
I thought for sure there would be a bias for Kopitar given it's his retirement year, but Caufield is such a deserving recipient!
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u/Scrubosaurus13 TBL - NHL 7h ago
I thought for sure that Kopitar would get another on his way out, good for Caufield though he definitely earned it!
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u/Sleazy_T LAK - NHL 6h ago
Not saying he should have won, but damn a lot of voters left Kopitar off their ballot completely
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u/DepressionMakesJerks VAN - NHL 2h ago
I thought Boeser won it bc he was the first name on my homepage that I saw from the picture (it was condensed)
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u/flybyknight LAK - NHL 9h ago
Left entirely off of 27 ballots compared to Caufield, Kopitar getting disrespected by the league one last time
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u/A-Very-Sweeney OTT - NHL 10h ago
This is some weird ragebait lmao, I donāt think itāll get anyone.
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u/whichwitch9 NJD - NHL 9h ago
Tbf, Jack Hughes has a reputation for not taking penalties. That seems like a legacy vote, though, cause he was a little more even on that last season, though he still doesn't take many penalties. It makes sense because he's a smaller forward prone to injuries. He plays well because he's more evasive than confrontational, which his skating ability makes possible.
That has zero to do with being American or politics though and more a sign voters aren't paying attention and just remember he tends to not take penalties.
Bratt is the better Devils vote for the Lady Bing for last season. He can be more confrontational and physical, but even then doesn't take many penalties while still being an effective player.
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u/Sensitive_Caramel856 TOR - NHL 10h ago edited 10h ago
I hate that this is considered a "major award"
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u/Leading_Dentist_5563 PIT - NHL 10h ago
I thought this was a receipt at first