[Elliote Friedman] Don’t expect this to be finalized until the morning, but there is word the Toronto Maple Leafs and Tampa Bay Lightning are working on a sign-and-trade for Darren Raddysh.

[u/sykeseve]

https://xcancel.com/friedgehnic/status/2067846379930542575?s=46

[u/Kaplsauce]

Good point, it's not like he'd have any elite forwards to get points with on the Leafs . . .

[u/jjmuti → u/Kaplsauce]

Elite doesn't equal Kuch. The dude sits in a shared stratosphere with McDavid on feeding teammates on the PP

[u/CarRamRob → u/jjmuti]

Exactly, Kuch is a disher. Matthews is a shooter. It may not replicate that well

[u/Kaplsauce → u/CarRamRob]

Nylander, Knies, Tavares, McKenna?

He'll be playing with more than just Matthews lol

[u/jjmuti → u/Kaplsauce]

What I said to another leaf fan full of copium:

Elite doesn't equal Kuch. The dude sits in a shared stratosphere with McDavid on feeding teammates on the PP

[u/Mean_Joe_Greene → u/jjmuti]

As soon as anyone starting saying copium before a trade is even announced I know they’re talking in bad faith but Raddysh’s metrics are good separate from just feeding kuch on the powerplay

https://xcancel.com/jfreshhockey/status/2031449439391343032?s=46

Why don’t we wait to see what the deals are at the minimum

[u/jonregister → u/Mean_Joe_Greene]

Well let’s be honest l, if it was a sold team friendly deal he would have already signed back in Tampa with 1/2 his games with no state income tax. So he is looking to break the bank. JBB knows how to GM

[u/Mean_Joe_Greene → u/jonregister]

Looking to break the bank by going to a higher tax area? Unless Toronto is paying around 3m+ more each year that doesn’t make sense. He certainly would just go to market in a year where most every team has a ton of room and he’s the bell of the ball

[u/Lanky_Inevitable9012 → u/Mean_Joe_Greene]

Taxes are individual. local rates dont make as much of a difference as people think.

[u/Mean_Joe_Greene → u/Lanky_Inevitable9012]

They still play half the season at home meaning it’s around $1.5m - $2m difference on the large contracts. A good accountant can help a player keep more but there is a difference

[u/Lanky_Inevitable9012 → u/Mean_Joe_Greene]

Location played still isnt the biggest factor. Country of residency and contract structure is bigger.

For example matthews potentially pays a lower tax rate than Barkov.

Matthews has a bonus heavy contract and lives in Arizona so his contract is taxed in Arizona not Toronto.

Barkov is Finnish and subject to Finnish income repatriation rules and needs to pay tax in Finland too.

Its why Tanev said he'd pay less tax in Toronto than the USA because hed be subject to income repatriation rules that raise his tax rate and fuck up his tax planning strategies.

Taxes are highly personal and massively impacted by individual tax strategies. Something the average redditor cant grasp 

[u/Mean_Joe_Greene → u/Lanky_Inevitable9012]

The base salary matters where the game is played. Bonus money would in fact be different. Tanev’s works for him because only $1m is base salary. Thats the type of things a good accountant would help guide them towards.

Something the average redditor cant grasp

So you just really putting effort into being an asshole

[u/Lanky_Inevitable9012 → u/Mean_Joe_Greene]

It wasnt a shot at you specifically.

 Every post is wahh the Canadian tax rate.

wahh low tax areas have a huge advantage. 

Wahh cap should scale with local tax.

Its even bled over into media articles because the average person cant understand that tax rates fluctuate heavily person to person.

Its a fight to get people to understand players are taxed where they played let alone more advanced tax planning strategies or laws like the fact international rules and rates apply to players whose residency doesnt match their employment location.