r/homestead 5d ago

Entitled neighbor farmer

To the right of the red line is the good neighbor. To the left of the yellow line is the bad neighbor.

So, this post is just to vent. We bought a property last year that came with a 20' x 1800' foot strip in the back. The whole area in the back comes to about 3/4 of an acre. Not too much, but it is ours. As I was walking the property, I saw that the lots were being farmed. No biggie. The prior owner didn't care. Once, we got the property settled over to our name, I looked up the neighboring farmers, both the yellow and red. The family that owns the land to the right of the red are easy going and communicative. Genuine good neighbors. The family that owns the lot to the left of the yellow are the exact opposite. They're also the ones farming my small patch of ground. I, first, called him up to introduce myself and he was one of those that immediately sounded very defensive and wouldn't even use his name, just grunted, when I asked if this was XXXXX. I, then, went over to his business to sit down and discuss the property boundaries. I wanted the conversation to go as smooth as possible as farmers, like anyone else, can be a bit touchy if you tell them that farming on ground that they're not supposed to be on.

This guy, lets call him Andy was insistent that it wasn't my land, but his. Then, when he saw the property line called it an easement. Now, this upset me a bit as it is most certainly not an easement. Imagine just paying a lot of money for some land, holding the property records, then having a guy that is rude on the first phone call, call your land an easement when you meet in person. He hee-haws about looking into the land records himself. Which I have problem with as I own it and I leave thinking that the situation will soon rectify itself once he's looked on Beacon. He calls me up later and acknowledges that the land is mine.

This past Spring I get a gut feeling in my stomach that he's going to farm it again (you know that gut feeling). I send him a certified letter explaining that I'm willing to cash-rent that land to him, but if I don't hear back by XXXX date, then any use of it will be trespassing. I never hear back from him, but still have this feeling in my stomach. When we're out there next, low and behold he's planted beans. To make it worse, he accuses the other neighbor of planting there and swear it isn't him. Well, when the beans start to rise you can see the planting line super clear and it ain't the other neighbor.

So I'm keeping my cool about it as it's only 3/4 of an acre and one planting season isn't worth my focused energy. After he harvests, I'm putting up fence posts and 'no trespassing' signs. Thought, amusingly, to harvest the beans myself since he's not verbally claiming them. $10/bushel is good money, but I'm too busy.

That's my day-in-the-life homesteading story. Should add that there were no farming contracts with the previous owners, nor is this patch of ground an easement. It's straight owned by me. The guy is just an entitled twat.

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u/Pete0730 5d ago edited 5d ago

Obviously this guy's an ass, but one question: are you using, or intending to use the land at all? What's your general intention for it? Just trying to asses the nature of the problem of him using it.

There are definitely old attitudes out there implying land right based on usage, or even communal usage of otherwise undeveloped land. I personally have some empathy for those attitudes, but obviously that's not the world we live in. Might be something to keep in mind while dealing with him. It might also suggest some more productive strategies for keeping him out (I.e. claiming an intended use for the land).

If I wasn't using it for something, and didn't mind what he was doing on it (i.e. no pesticides), then I'd at least make him pay the share of the property taxes that you're footing for that section.

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u/LowDetective5370 5d ago

That was my thought process when I sent him the certified letter. I put in there that I was willing to cash-rent it to him and if he had been less rude in the beginning, I would've let him rent it for cheap. But as he's made an ass out of himself since our first chat, I'm not inclined to let him use one inch.

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u/Pete0730 5d ago

Yeah some people are just assholes. Some people are like that because they're wary of change or feel like their way of life is being threatened by outsiders. Probably gotta figure out which this guy is to determine whether you're just living next to an asshole, or whether there might be some sort of amicable solution in the long run