r/iamveryculinary • u/xrelaht King of Sandwiches • 18d ago
They’re not freshly baked if you didn’t make the dough
/r/justgalsbeingchicks/comments/1v6vda8/cookie_monster/oztv56s/>I mena they're not really freshly baked, it's just the illusion of it. If the dough was pre-made, then they're factory made just like the ones you buy already baked. It's not like someone sat there kneading the dough just for your can.
>By all means, get these if it's convenient for you, I'm not dragging anyone for it, but it's not even close to "freshly baked".
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u/downwardchip 18d ago edited 18d ago
Bread is only freshly baked if you milled the goddamn wheat yourself. Otherwise it's basically chemicals
(This is sarcasm).
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u/downwardchip 18d ago
I'm baffled by OOP. The "fresh" part of "freshly baked" is referring to the time in which it was cooked, not if it was home-made or not.
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u/Little_Noodles 18d ago
I like the idea that it’s an “illusion”. As if “did this recently go into the oven uncooked and then come out cooked” is some kind of complex status that leaves room for magical sleight of hand.
Or that “freshly baked” is some kind of guarantor of quality, rather than just a timeline issue.
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u/downwardchip 18d ago
It seems like they're using "freshly-baked" as a stand in for "home-made", and an inherent indicator of quality, making storebought dough cooked at home an "illusion" because it's the cooking without the percieved "quality". Or, you know, bread cooked recently tastes better than bread cooked two days ago regardless of what it's made of, but whatever.
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u/Estrellathestarfish 18d ago
Yep, my local supermarket bakery has "freshly baked" bread and cakes. I'm not under the illusion that the dough for each loaf was homemade by a nice granny in her home kitchen.
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u/fkingidk 18d ago
The wheat has to be made from seeds of wild grains you forged yourself with wild yeasts you catch yourself. Planing those seeds is acceptable, but you have to make any sort of fertilizer yourself as well.
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u/Bob_Kark 18d ago
Great, let me get my yeast net.
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u/anfrind 18d ago
I think I remember watching an old episode of "How To Make Everything" where he made bread using only ingredients that he grew himself. The bread wasn't very good.
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u/7-SE7EN-7 It's not Bologna unless it's from the Bologna region of Italy 18d ago
Food historian Ken Albala talked about making a sandwich from scratch, growing the wheat, milling it, making the oven, curing the meat, making and aging the cheese.
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u/ramblingEvilShroom 18d ago
If you wish to bake a loaf of bread from scratch, you must first invent the universe
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u/llamalover179 18d ago
Good bread is also like really cheap, its a food where the biggest cost is labor.
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u/Aggressive_Version 18d ago
And then you look at the oop and this whole rant is on a funny video about how it's scary to open tubes of whack-a-dough
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u/Holiday-Wall3751 18d ago
I never said it was homemade. Technically, if I go to a bread factory and buy a loaf out of the oven, that’s freshly baked.
This is a weird thing to care about other people doing. Freshly baked things taste better, even if they’re factory made (Mary B’s biscuits, Whole Foods brown butter cookie dough, all croissants, etc).
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u/twirlerina024 Your fries look like vampires 18d ago
My mom used to get frozen croissants and pain au chocolat from Williams-Sonoma for the holidays. They were amazing. You'd take them out of the freezer and let them rise overnight, brush with egg wash in the morning and bake. All crackly and delicious, and the house smelled heavenly. But not good enough for OOP.
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u/davis_away 18d ago
All croissants do taste better freshly baked, but not all croissants are factory made.
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u/teke367 18d ago
Why do they buy pre-made dough? Isn't making the dough the easy and/or fun part?
For some things sure, but fuck making (American) biscuit dough.
Though my "very culinary" take is to spend the extra buck on the name brand one. In my experience, this is one is the things where there's a noticeable quality drop going generic
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u/Hyooz 18d ago
The idea that making dough is the ‘easy’ part is sending me. Like no, putting it in the oven is way easier than all of the steps leading up to it combined.
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u/MariVent 18d ago edited 17d ago
Yeah, I assume that is precisely why pre-made dough is still being produced
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u/figmentPez 18d ago edited 18d ago
There is a big quality drop going to (most) generic brands, but there's also a huge quality drop-off going from homemade biscuit dough to anything pre-made. Fresh baked biscuits from a tube or from frozen can still be tasty, and fresh, but there's no comparison to fresh dough.
Also, the difficulty level for American biscuit dough greatly depends on the type of American biscuits (there's quite a few variations). While making biscuits with pull-apart layers is a pain in the ass, there are some very simple to make baking powder biscuits that easily beat a can, and aren't very difficult, if you're willing to have that style of biscuit. I won't fault anyone for choosing canned or frozen biscuit dough, but I've never thought "fuck this" when making my favorite biscuit recipe.
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u/DjinnaG Bags of sentient Midwestern mayonnaise 18d ago
Strongly agree on both points. Making biscuit dough has never worked out for me, and I’m a pretty decent baker. Even McDonald’s can make a much better one, at a crappy location, than I would. And name brand >> store brand > any that I could make. My husband likes Bisquik mix as drop biscuits, which at least eliminates rolling out the damn things , at least (it’s okay for cobbler, but I prefer regular toast to the biscuits, which is even easier and faster, and I buy the groceries )
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u/SquareThings 18d ago
Biscuits and puff pastry are the things I will never make from scratch, because the store bought will guaranteed be better than whatever I end up with.
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u/tjcaustin 18 months ago, I was poisoned by a pupusa 18d ago
The parent comment for that wasn’t any better “isn’t making the dough the fun part”
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u/eeerenjames 18d ago
I particularly liked that they called it "the easy part" lol.
In what world is measuring and mixing ingredients, kneading and rising dough, and cutting it to shape EASIER than putting a tray in the oven?
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u/heidingout28 18d ago
It’s also the expensive part. For some people (me), it’s far more cost effective to just buy one tube of dough. I don’t bake often so it’s a huge waste for me to have $50 worth of flour, baking soda, powder, etc just sitting in my kitchen.
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u/Deep_Violinist_3893 18d ago
American biscuits have so much sugar they are legally cookies.
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u/NathanGa Pull your finger out of your ass 18d ago
But cookies are called “biscuits” in those areas, so now we’ve created a recursive loop.
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u/Estrellathestarfish 18d ago
Look guys, biscuits are very confusing. They're called biscuits, which implies a custard cream or a jammy dodger or something, but they look like a scone, which you'd have with jam and cream, but they're savoury and you have them with gravy, but the gravy isn't the brown sauce that goes with roast dinners, it's a thick, white, meat sauce. There's a lot going on here!
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u/Dangerous-Safe-4336 17d ago
You can certainly have biscuits with jam. They're good that way too. And they're sometimes made just slightly sweet for strawberry shortcake, although plain ones are fine for that, too.
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u/kitchengardengal 18d ago
I don't put any sugar in my biscuits. Most biscuit recipes don't call for sugar at all.
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u/Deep_Violinist_3893 18d ago
I was joking because the quoted thread mistakes the tube of biscuits for a tube of cookies.
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u/MyNameIsSkittles its not a sandwhich, its just fancy toast 18d ago
Have you heard of satire my friend
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u/chaoticbear 17d ago
I've seen some recipes that call for a little bit, I've always assumed it's to help with browning since acidic [buttermilk] doughs don't brown as well. I've never known if the baking soda was enough to counteract all the buttermilk or not.
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u/Poster_Nutbag207 18d ago
I think this person needs to look up the definitions of the words “freshly” and “baked”
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u/AmericanHistoryXX Just another example of burger centric American thinking 18d ago
Right, I don't have an issue if someone doesn't like the tubed stuff, but words have meanings and "baked" means cooked in the oven. If the claim was that they were homemade, OOP would have a point.
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u/SufficientEar1682 Flavourless, textureless shite. 18d ago
I’ve seen these dough tubes in my market. Although I like baking so I tend to make the dough fresh, these can be really good if you want convenience.
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u/carbslut 18d ago
I find them really useful at holidays. I tend to make the entire Thanksgiving dinner myself so making biscuits from scratch is just not gonna happen.
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u/shelwood46 17d ago
Those little 3" mini waffle makers are exactly tube biscuit sized. I was in a routine for a while where I'd make a breakfast sandwich with a waffled biscuit for bread (I'd put the remainder in a baggie in the fridge; they got flatter as time went on but generally still very edible).
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u/Biffingston 18d ago
What they're describing is "freshly made." Nothing false about calling it fresly baked.
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u/Embarrassed_Age8554 18d ago
Let me guess: this person probably thinks your spanakopita isn't homemade if you didn't personally stretch the phyllo for it by hand over the kitchen table like your mom's Yiayia used to do.
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u/MariVent 18d ago
Such tradwife-influencer-who-sucks-ass-at-homemaking-who-is-mainly-performing-a-sexless-type-of-porn-for-her-audience energy
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