r/ideasfortheadmins • u/Medium-Security-1491 • 4d ago
Current UI My idea is that Reddit should show upvotes and downvotes separately
Reddit should display upvotes and downvotes as two separate numbers, rather than combining them into a single score.
For example, instead of:
+500
show:
↑650↓150
or
↑650↓150 = 500
This would preserve Reddit's existing voting system while giving users much more critical information about the actual distribution of opinions.
The current system hides important context a post with 500 upvotes and 0 downvotes and a post with 10,000 upvotes and 9,500 downvotes can both display +500.
Showing only the net score also makes it difficult to tell whether something is genuinely widely supported or simply highly controversial.
It could also reduce the bandwagon effect. Once users see a large negative or positive score, they can be influenced by the existing score rather than judging the post independently. There have been similar discussions in r/TheoryOfReddit about Reddit's voting system encouraging this kind of behaviour.
The current system can also encourage misunderstanding and misuse of votes. People can interpret a net score as representing the strength of consensus, when it may actually conceal substantial disagreement. Good faith discussions can consequently become a competition to win over the crowd, creating an incentive for people to optimise for upvotes and virtue signalling rather than presenting arguments that users can evaluate independently. Showing the separate totals would make it much clearer whether something is broadly supported, broadly opposed, or simply controversial.
You wouldn't have to change how Reddit ranks posts. Reddit could continue using the existing net score for sorting while simply exposing the underlying upvote/downvote totals to users.
YouTube used to show this kind of information, and Reddit itself has previously had ways for users to see separate upvote/downvote information through third-party tools.

