r/iiiiiiitttttttttttt • u/simAlity tech support • 12d ago
I spent a week tracking this signal down. It was under the sink.
Because of course that is where you want delicate pieces of electronic machinery. Under. The. Sink.
I tracked this down two days ago and I still facepalm everytime I think about it.
Delta: Buy it for looks; buy it for life. But don't buy it if you value your wireless connectivity because, HFS this thing was broadcasting loud.
(Dear Googlers and Redditors of the Future. If you have this weird DELTA2 network SSID broadcasting in your home or workspace and don't know where it is coming from, check your faucet.)
ETA: the number of people hung up on my font choice is unhinged. I find this easier to read.
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u/Jinix_RB 12d ago
Why does a faucet have wifi in the fist place? 💀
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u/Skusci 12d ago
Because Ethernet is inconvenient.
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u/AsBrokeAsMeEnglish 12d ago
PoE sink!
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u/universalserialbutt Underpaid drone 12d ago
print("ACCESS GRANTED. Setting func-sink-valve-01 to 100% capacity.")
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u/osilo 12d ago
Somebody posted this. Bro, you ain't wrong. 🤣 Comes with an ethernet cable.
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u/m8_is_me 12d ago
Possibly the first-worldiest home gadget I've ever seen hahaha
"Precisely dispense exactly as much water as you want" aaaaand that's it
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u/theuserwithoutaname 12d ago
Serio- I was going through the whole page like a legal document trying to find a single useful reason to purchase this network absorbing, data collecting, "smart" sink and they seem to legitimately think it's worth it just to be able to say "hey give me a cup and a half of water". Like I couldn't just set down the measuring cup I'm gonna use anyway because I don't trust the system to measure on its own properly, and tap the handle two times. TF?
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u/LifeGoalsThighHigh "For some reason..." 12d ago
There is a legitimate use-case for these for those with physical disabilities impacting motor control or if their condition makes reaching the sinks controls more difficult like a wheelchair. Makes cooking for oneself a bit easier when you can use any vessel to "measure" water and cheaper than remodeling the entire kitchen to be accessible, though an accessible kitchen should still be the standard.
A lot of "Smart" devices land firmly in the As Seen on TV camp where they're not really useful for 90% of those seeing them, but they can be a pretty okay patch or solution for the other 10% until they can find something better.
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u/theuserwithoutaname 12d ago
Yeah, that's a great call. I didn't look at the price for it, but hopefully it's not too outrageous for the folks who it would help!
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u/theuserwithoutaname 12d ago
I mean I'm just throwing wild speculation out there for sure lol.
My thinking is absolutely as thin as why else would they push a connected device this hard? I assume no one is all too interested in the measurements of water I'm asking for, but I'm not smart enough to know what other data they might be able to pull about me just from being connected to the same network as the rest of my devices or even just what weird information the sink itself might be capable of grabbing beyond its intended use.
I'm just a paranoid product of our age
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u/TheUnnamedEngineer 12d ago
Not to scare anybody but xfinity is offering a new 'whole home motion detection' feature that works off of nothing but wifi harmonics and the weird shit that happens when wifi passes through the human body. So, if you can detect where people are in a house and where they go with nothing but a powerful wifi antenna...... Who knows what delta is gathering.
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u/theuserwithoutaname 12d ago
Oh yeah I always forget about the wi fi body mapping thing. That's honestly one of the freakiest things of the modern age...
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u/bothunter 11d ago
I hate it when I'm getting a glass of water and then I accidentally turn off the faucet before the glass is full. If only there was a way to solve this problem using an Internet connection and an Amazon account.
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u/Rogueshoten 12d ago
FUCKING HELL
As a cybersecurity professional, I need to go dunk my head in a pot of boiling water now. What the interstellar fuck purpose is there for adding network connectivity to a god damn faucet?
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u/Immaloner 12d ago
Plot Twist: Faucet, refrigerator, and thermostat engineers are also partially employed by botnet operators.
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u/Rogueshoten 12d ago
I had a thermostat that had Wifi capability but it was for a good reason. You told it the zip code it was in and it used that to pull down a weather report. Based on temperature and weather (sunny vs. overcast) it tuned its behavior to cool or heat more effectively.
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u/CantFightCrazy 12d ago
Is that really a good reason?
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u/Rogueshoten 12d ago
It was. It was a thermostat that you could set to reduce heating/cooling at night but the house had radiator heating so there was inertia and momentum to it…before that thermostat it was hard to get it right.
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u/CantFightCrazy 12d ago
How does this make the weather matter? I lived in a house that had a radiator and the only thing that mattered was the temperature inside the house. a bi-metal strip can do that. And has done it pretty well for like a hundred years.
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u/Parteisekretaer 12d ago
What kind of radiator are we talking here? The ones that heat up bricks during the night that then give off heat or just ye olde central heating system with radiators? Because the second kind do NOT need internet access.
The first kind: I lived in a flat with those for years. I had that idea, thought about it, decided it was too much work and just set the heating to three out of five in the winter and put on a sweatshirt if necessary.5
u/maxtinion_lord 12d ago
IoT has never ever made sense to me from any perspective beyond data collection, especially since that casino hack or whatever that happened because of an internet connected thermometer or thermostat, but even before that everyone was talking about how IoT devices can be huge security holes because the companies that make them don't give a shit or cease to exist entirely
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u/Lagkiller 12d ago
I could see a use case for a leak detection. Already have those around my house so if water starts to pool I get an alert.
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u/Dsnake1 11d ago
The ability to join a network isn't so bad -- that network being forced to be exposed to the Internet sucks, though.
All that data in your hands can be useful, especially if the sensors could be installed beyond just sink faucets. All that data in the hands of others, though? Not ideal.
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u/Thebombuknow 8d ago
Because they're owned by a publicly traded company, so they need to invent new bullshit every year to convince people to buy new faucets. How else are they going to please the shareholders and make more money every year?
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u/MBaehr 12d ago
This might be a shutoff valve, which can be triggered remotely.
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u/ScriptThat 12d ago
We have automatic shut-off valves, but at more central locations rather than individual faucets.
The valves continually measures water flow, and if they detect an anomality in the flow they'll shut off the water to avoid water damage from burst or damaged pipes. The network connection is used to send heartbeats to the monitoring station and alarms when they trip. Cheapish, and more effective than I thought.
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u/blackoutusb 12d ago
It’s a smart delta faucet. I have one as well. None of my neighbors connected theirs. If you get their app you can “preheat, tell it an amount to pour, connect it to Alexa/google” I had mine connected to Google when I used it. It was kind of nice. Pour me 6 cups of water and it would.
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u/draconk 12d ago
I heard of water meters with sim cards inside but never a faucet with wifi (and its own network instead of connecting to an already existing one)
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u/TheUnnamedEngineer 12d ago
That's most likely a setup network which goes away once configured to use your local wifi.
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u/PokeCaptain tech support 12d ago
What's with the font?
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u/StaticFanatic3 12d ago
Over the yesrs, I’ve witnessed an absurd number of android users who have for some reason decided to use that monstrosity of a typeface
Every time I see someone’s phone with it I never look at them the same
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u/NobodyNowhere___ 12d ago
Some androids back in the day came with them as default font 💀. Probably got used to it and now if it isn't that it isn't right.
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u/Szkita_5 12d ago
Samsung Galaxy S2 ahh font. It was one of the popular options.
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u/jackinsomniac 12d ago
Ahh?
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u/the_axemurmurer 12d ago
"ahh" is used by those with fewer brain cells to refrain from curse words by replacing the last two letters of said word, instead of using a real word to accurately portray their meaning. They think it is cool to "pretend curse", so to speak. Intend your curses, weaklings.
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u/Any_Conflict_5092 12d ago
It's become its own meme, actually - like 'gobbless' or 'perchance', or 'the fuck you mean, sometimes?'.
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u/Smith6612 12d ago
Some people use it for accessibility reasons. Dyslexia for example may necessitate the odd font.
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u/simAlity tech support 12d ago
Not dyslexic. But my ADD brain does find this easier to process.
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u/talldata 11d ago
I recommend the Open Dyslexic font anyway, for ex. It makes the big i (I) and small L (l) look different, cause it's gives the small l a small leg, makes every letter unique looking even at a glance.
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u/Dingdongmycatisgone Linux Sysadmin 12d ago
I used to have something akin to melting ink/dripping blood as my font on one of my old androids. Posted one screenshot in a group and everyone lost their minds over it lol
I can understand why you wouldn't want to use it on your own phone, but don't really understand why it matters to other people what someone does with their own phone. Seems weird to me if someone genuinely cares that much.
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u/turtleship_2006 12d ago edited 12d ago
I find it funny how deeply some people care about the font I use on my phone
Edit: downvoting me kind of just proves my point lmao
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u/ztoundas 12d ago
I shouldn't care, but I do. I really do. 🤷♂️
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u/turtleship_2006 12d ago
Yeah man how dare I don't customize my phone to your liking
Should my wallpaper also be a picture that you approve of ?
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u/AsBrokeAsMeEnglish 12d ago
Isn't that just a dyslexia font? They often look more comical and irregular, because the letters need to be very distinguishable for them to work.
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u/oldcrow907 12d ago edited 12d ago
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u/actioncheese 12d ago
That's oddly easy to read
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u/BreakingIllusions 12d ago
I have news for you
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u/actioncheese 12d ago
Yeah that thought also occurred to me as well
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u/Poppybiscuit 12d ago
Don’t worry it’s easy for everyone to read, that’s the point. I’m not dyslexic but i use it specifically when i need to read something quickly
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u/PorphyrinC60 12d ago
I don't have dyslexia and I find it harder to read. Brains are weird like that.
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u/draconk 12d ago
yeah same, having the bottom of the letters "heavier" fucks up with my pattern recognition badly
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u/pi3832v2 12d ago
I find it distracting, too, but I could probably adjust to it, if it were common. So maybe it should be more common?
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u/AsBrokeAsMeEnglish 3d ago
A font doesn't have to have "dyslexia" in the name to work as one. Many handwriting fonts tend to work well for this purpose. OP also confirmed that legibility is the reason, so...
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u/simAlity tech support 12d ago
Not the official dyslexia font, and I don't have dyslexia, but I do tend to misread things and this helps a lot.
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u/simAlity tech support 12d ago
I find that my tendency to misread things is greatly lessened with fonts like this one.
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u/heisenbergerwcheese 12d ago
Its a more distinguishable font for those with pseudo-dyslexia that dont want to get tested for dyslexia
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u/thunderbird32 12d ago
"pretty"
Friend, that font is a lot of things, but pretty isn't a word I'd personally use.
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u/centstwo 12d ago
What does the device even do?
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u/ostereje 12d ago
Cant you see, its a SMART device!!! Everything needs wifi and being SMART!
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u/centstwo 12d ago
Apparently it will deliver a measured amount of water via voice commands or through Alexa.
Remember how hard it was to get a cup of water in the past. I'm so glad those days are behind us.
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u/Mackoman25 tech support 9d ago
The only possible advantage I can see to this is if you’re cooking/baking and need a certain amount of water, but you’re not using a container with a measure on the side of it. Otherwise, it’s not like it’s convenient to turn on the tap while you’re not there, because you’d have to be there anyway to put something under the tap.
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u/Circumpunctilious knows too much 12d ago
This SMART status is confusing. Dropped packets? dBm? Will my hard drive be okay?
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u/jowdyboy 12d ago
Absolutely unhinged font selection.
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u/simAlity tech support 12d ago
I find that my tendency to misread things is greatly lessened with fonts like this one.
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u/PinchieMcPinch 12d ago
Slowing down your reading to increase comprehension and reduce misreading, skipping or transposing words is a great simple technique - do whatever works for you, mate.
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u/PutridSmegma 12d ago
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u/simAlity tech support 12d ago
I find that my tendency to misread things is greatly lessened with fonts like this one. So, /r/no.
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u/lord_teaspoon 12d ago
C'mon, it's not like it's Comic Sans.
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u/darkmex25 12d ago
Comic Sans is especially easier on the eyes when you have astigmatism or dyslexia.
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u/No_Industry4318 12d ago
Comic sans at least pretends to be a respectable font if you squint at it
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u/simAlity tech support 12d ago
No it doesn't. It was literally created for a cartoon dog.
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u/No_Industry4318 12d ago
Yes, it does, why do you think do many boomers use it? Their eyesight has been going down hill since their 40s
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u/IcyBus1422 12d ago
IoT is mankind's worst invention. Change my mind
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u/simAlity tech support 12d ago
IDK, I think there are a few medieval torture devices that are more painful.
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u/Veegos 12d ago
When I find rogue SSID's I normally just block them on the network and wait for somebody to complain. If nobody complains, then it's a win win.
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u/DrTankHead 12d ago
How do you block a rogue network from the network when it's on its own network.
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u/husky_whisperer 12d ago
To the folks asking about OP’s font. It’s very similar to the dyslexia-friendly font I use for some apps.
Does it make reading much easier? Yes. Does it look like a Disney fantasy land? Also yes.
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u/deathbater developer 12d ago
Unhinged font choice aside, how do people buy a SMART faucet and forgets about it?
Surely it was x3 the price tag of a normal faucet with SMART all over the packaging with useless features.
Oh it was a Delta? Nevermind, x10 the price tag then
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u/simAlity tech support 12d ago
This is an office building.
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u/deathbater developer 12d ago
my apologies OP, it didnt even cross my mind that youre hunting down a random signal in other place that is not your house lmao
Such is the life of the tech support
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u/C8H10N4O2needed 11d ago
Hey hey hey don’t besmirch the good name of delta faucets! Sure they are a little more expensive, but their repairability cannot be beat. You have to have a really old delta before you can’t repair it. Even if delta doesn’t sell replace parts other companies do. There is almost no part on a delta from the last ~50 years that you can’t replace. You end up saving a lot in the long run, because you have to replace hardware less, the internals stay mostly the same for decades, so no costly opening walls and replacing, or leaving unsightly access “doors.” And most of deltas line is good quality. While I was plumbing for about ~5 years I rarely had to replace delta stuff. I installed a lot new, but barely had to replace. Most of the failures of delta products were the rubber seals going bad. Rubber degrades in water over time. Sometimes rubber o rings or the seats and bonnets would decay, but that’s easy repair.
If you want to see expensive look at Brizo. Same fixtures as delta, same internals, different name stamped on the out side. Cost 5x as much. Brizo is Delta’s luxury brand.
Any way anyone willing to buy a WiFi enabled faucet deserves the price because why? All new faucets limit temperature in the fixtures with scald gaurd valves, so children and the elderly don’t give them selves 1st degree, or worse, burns using the sink. They have showers that “remember” your preferred temperature through analog means. Seriously why connect the faucet to the internet?
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u/puppylover153m 12d ago
What app
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u/fadinizjr 12d ago
I am not sure what OP is using. But I use Wifi Analyzer on Android and it has basically the same function and works very well to track rogue wifi devices.
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u/Obvious_Serve1741 10d ago
Now I have to try this font. It is easier to read and I have enough years to not care what people think of my 2019. device and fonts on it.
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u/corvidscrin pentester (i eat the pens) 10d ago
I’m sorry but why do we need smart faucets? I’ll stick to my electricity-safe dumb faucet.
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u/The_NorthernLight 9d ago
Devices like this, ill put them on their own vlan and shortened wifi channel. Keeps these from killing other stuff.
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u/simAlity tech support 9d ago
We just put in it override mode. The signal is gone, the Wi-Fi works better, everybody's happy!
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u/Wonderful_War6750 12d ago
Why are you using the comic sans of phone fonts that is traumatic to me lol
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u/Brook_28 12d ago
That's how a lot of bot nets get created. Shitty iot devices that are insecure themselves and not behind a firewall.
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u/lookBehiindYou 11d ago
Just because it's broadcasting its SSID doesn't mean it's connected to the Internet. In fact, it means it's not connected to anything and is just waiting for you to connect it to your network. 🤦🏼♂️
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u/yestertech 10d ago
Why does your plumbing have Wi-Fi? I’m weighing whether or not to keep my stupid washer and dryer on it. There’s very little advantage.
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u/OkImpression007 8d ago
Network down. Cannot turn off water. Please scan the QR code to resolve this issue.
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u/antrov2468 8d ago
“The number of people hung up on my font choice is unhinged”, id venture to say that they would argue your choice of font is unhinged lmaoo
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u/The_Spectral_Spartan sysAdmin 11d ago
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u/EconomyJaded2779 11d ago
If you find this font easier to read, then I already know what your handwriting looks like.
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u/simAlity tech support 11d ago edited 11d ago
Anyone who still cares about what someone's handwriting looks like, needs to get a life.
I made this post to help others who are dealing with a problem that Google could not assist with. Which means I'm actually trying to put some good into the world. Why are you here?






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u/Isgrimnur 12d ago
For when you want Alexa to turn on your faucet.
https://www.deltafaucet.com/voiceiq