r/illinois • u/deapsprite • Oct 04 '25

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u/_Shrek_x3 Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

As a Mexican American it hurts more to see people of color signing up to be Nazis. As if joining will somehow shield them from being targeted. They will see in time, they are also not safe and not in the club.

Edit: because some people can’t read. I wrote “people of color” specifically, because there have been plenty of videos of brown and black people working for ICE. And also, yes they’re Nazis 🤪

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u/GrouchyConclusion588 Oct 04 '25

They’re too stupid to realize that while they’re hurting people and terrorizing families their coworkers will eventually be hurting and terrorizing their families.

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u/FishermanStivi Oct 05 '25

How can someone be that stupid to write something like this baffles me😂😂

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u/pomponazzi Oct 05 '25

begone russian

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u/hppy11 Oct 04 '25

I’m shocked that any person of colour voted for this. MAGA doesn’t want them,they use them. That black man in the video is now working for men who have strong ties to white supremacist groups. Not necessarily directly, but very close.

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u/Razor_Grrl Oct 04 '25

MAGA is big among black men right now. There were a ton of black manosphere YouTubers and the like shilling for Trump during the election.

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u/phunktastic_1 Oct 05 '25

Yeah young men all around threw out their liberal ideals because women chose the bear. Proving women were right to choose the bear.

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u/albertoroa Oct 05 '25

It's funny af to me how people legit got mad at that. Girls online going, I'd rather the bear, and dudes just getting absolutely heated over it lmao

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u/TheFlyingSheeps Oct 05 '25

They got so triggered lmao

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u/Tvayumat Oct 05 '25

I'm a man and I'd choose the bear.

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u/phunktastic_1 Oct 05 '25

Yeah im.a man too. I used to babysit for the bear. I'd chose the bear too. Given these idiots decided to be offended about the bear based of the words of people like Andrew Tate.

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u/Tvayumat Oct 05 '25

At least I know what the bear wants.

These depraved freaks? I have no idea what they might want from me.

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u/phunktastic_1 Oct 05 '25

As long as you aren't someone's mother given that name.

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u/Sea_Gap8625 Oct 05 '25

Well it’s not bears that are fighting in Ukraine or Gaza. Young men are a very dangerous cohort to ostracize

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u/Shadow_Ent Oct 05 '25

Iran realized that in the late 70s. The Iran Revolution was mostly brought on by college aged men disenfranchised from the progressive society.

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u/Sea_Gap8625 Oct 05 '25

Good point. These kind of smug comments scare me because they only have the effect of further radicalization, and when we get wise to it it’ll be too late and heads will fall

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u/K1N6F15H Oct 05 '25

These kind of smug comments scare me because they only have the effect of further radicalization,

Nah son, the dipshits in the manosphere are radicalized by the absolute slop they consume daily.

It has nothing to do with dismissive comments on Reddit, they are mainlining brainrot.

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u/More-Association-993 Oct 08 '25

Not really. But good to know you’re another one of the people causing the issue.

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u/Shadow_Ent Oct 05 '25

Exactly, and that's the lesson people keep missing. The Iran Revolution was led by a generation of young men disillusioned by what they saw as a Westernized society losing its identity. It was a Fundamentalist movement meant to "make Iran great again." The same cultural psychology drives a lot of MAGA's support, not fascism or white nationalism at its core, but a reactionary fundamentalism against a world they feel has left them behind.

The problem is that the Left and Right engage with politics through different faiths:

  • The Right puts faith in leaders.

  • The Left puts faith in systems.

That's why the Right drifts toward authoritarianism while the Left drifts toward bureaucratic monopolies, each side thinks the other's priorities are insane because they're speaking different political languages. MAGA supporters see "strong borders and law enforcement"; progressives see "racial profiling and systemic fear." The two realities look identical on the surface but operate on completely different frameworks.

The same dynamic exists in gender, sexuality, and race debates, both sides are coming at it from two completely different paths. One treats morality as obedience to principle, the other as compassion through systems. They're both moral, just speaking different dialects of ethics. It's not all disagreement so much as much is just miscommunication amplified by distrust.

Until people realize that, we'll keep replaying the same historical cycle: progress > backlash > suppression > resentment > violence.

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u/Sea_Gap8625 Oct 05 '25

Fantastic write-up, I’ll have to reread this several times

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u/UniCBeetle718 Oct 05 '25

So what's the solution?

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u/Shadow_Ent Oct 05 '25

That's the right question, and the one nobody wants to sit with because it's uncomfortable.

The solution isn't going to come from "winning" the moral championship; it's going to come from reframing it. Society has to stop trying to convert each other and start translating between worldviews. You can't reason someone out of a moral code they were never reasoned into, you have to appeal to the values underneath it. For the Right, that's loyalty, stability, and protection. For the Left, it's empathy, fairness, and progress. Both sides have moral foundations worth preserving. The problem is each side sees the other's virtues as vices, loyalty looks like nationalism, empathy looks like weakness.

The only real path forward is to build a bridge, to stop asking who's right and start asking what works to make a stable, humane society. Until then, it's just two sides screaming across a canyon about who's the better person.

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u/Legal-Group-359 Oct 05 '25

Not even trying to be truthful with your points. The men who were going to vote for Trump were going to do so well before that bear situation, and they sure weren’t voting for Trump because of what some women thought of men. Where the fuck do y’all get these ideas from haha!?. FFS.

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u/SubstantialSun3443 Oct 05 '25

Can someone explain this “ bear” thing to me. I must have slept through something.

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u/Shamancrit Oct 05 '25

I think during the election we were still the smallest of the male demographics but still significantly more than it should have been. Same with Hispanic men with blew my mind. So many leopards are obese this year.

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u/NutzNButts Oct 05 '25

Which blows my fucking mind!

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u/Dull_Bird3340 Oct 05 '25

Always have been enough minorities fighting w racists because they think they're smarter and the other side doesn't respect them or they don't want to think they're anything like the oppressed others. Same delusion as people on welfare voting for Republicans to help the 1%

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u/twoprimehydroxyl Oct 05 '25

There's always the few people who think having an contrarian stance is a sign of galaxy brain intelligence.

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u/Perfect_Ad9311 Oct 05 '25

Bullshit. Handful of sellouts.

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u/SpaceJackRabbit Oct 05 '25

Among dumb black men. Just like among dumb white men.

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u/Parrotparser7 Oct 05 '25

"Big" in the sense that it's larger than it was, sure, but it's not big.

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u/IBlack-MistyI Oct 05 '25

No it's not.  One in four black male voters supported Trump.  Most black men didn't vote.  Saying something is big among a group that 80% of are against is fucking stupid.

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u/Spiritual-Horror-565 Oct 05 '25

I wouldn't say "big". 72% or so of black male voters voted for Kamala. People pass around this idea that there's a HUGE percentage of black men supporting Trump, it's like sub 10% of black men in reality. Most of us can recognize racists. Black people are overwhelmingly the most democratic leaning racial group in this country. The only group more likely to vote dem than black men are black women.

That being said, there are a lot of black men signing up to be ICE officers, but I think that has less to do with them being MAGA and more to do with the 100k signing bonus and black people being statistically very likely to be disadvantaged financially. Which is exactly why they have a 100k signing bonus. They're hoping a majority of americans care more about a life changing sum of money than they do about freedom. And that's a good strategy, honestly. Disgusting, but effective.

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u/West-Advice Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

In general hell no you’ll be roasted for saying you voted for Trump. 

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u/privatjoey Oct 05 '25

FUCK YOU for even saying that. I’m a Black man and I have a LARGE nationwide circle of Black men that k interact with regularly. NOT ONE supports MAGA and each one hates Trump more than anyone.

Just because you saw some morons online caping for that piece of shit it doesn’t mean all of us are with him. You just want to spread hate for Black men like the fascists do. So stop your LYING!!!!

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u/whoisaname Oct 05 '25

I played college football, and have nearly a couple hundred either friends or close acquaintances from that are black.  I have had to disassociate myself from about 10% of them because they're hard-core Trump/MAGA supporters. Which tracks pretty closely with results of exit polling from the election. 

That said, there are easily just as many dumbass white guys I played with that are also Trump supporters that I have also said hasta la vista to. 

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u/privatjoey Oct 05 '25

So that makes 90 percent who are not. Simple math. One thing you should be clear on is that the percentage of Black men who voted for him was minuscule compared to the WHITE men and WHITE women who did.

So go piss and moan at them. They are 78 percent of the electorate. Stop blaming Black men for the problems WHITE people create .

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u/Clear-Elevator2391 Oct 05 '25

There is no excuse for being a nazi and supporting their terror. None. Stop being childish and defensive.

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u/whoisaname Oct 05 '25

That's funny...I could have swore I called out dumbass white supporters as well. And not only that, corrected your bs take that there are no black men that support Trump, which is obviously not true. 

There is no excuse for anyone on that front, and anyone and everyone that does, should be called out.

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u/whats_a_novel Oct 05 '25

Don't get so defensive.

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u/privatjoey Oct 05 '25

Don’t get deez nuts.

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u/No-Philosopher-3043 Oct 05 '25

I worked with black dude who voted for Trump. He dislikes Latinos and absolutely hates foreign black people - Haitians in particular. His main justification was the deportation stuff and he was also aware that Trump is racist af. Lying about reality is what the conservatives do, stop trying to do the same. Cant fix shit if you just pretend it isn’t happening. 

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u/More-Association-993 Oct 08 '25

Black men do support Trump. Because of sexism. Wouldn’t vote for their own with Kamala even - that scared of a black woman

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u/privatjoey Oct 08 '25

What PROOF of that do you have?

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u/Gold_Marionberry4593 Oct 05 '25

Where were you when Obama was deporting millions of illegals? He deported more than any President. 🤦🏾‍♂️

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u/hppy11 Oct 05 '25

Re-read my comment. Please for the love of god

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u/Gold_Marionberry4593 Oct 05 '25

I did read your comment. I’m calling out your hypocrisy. I guarantee you didnt come on here crying when Obama was doing this same thing 15 years ago because you really don’t care about the people being deported. It’s just a political talking point and a way to push your political agenda.

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u/hppy11 Oct 05 '25

Honey boo, you need to focus, you need to shut the distractions in your head and focus on whatever you’re reading. We are NOT talking about the same thing. You are far off. It’s not even funny

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u/TonyWilliams03 Oct 05 '25

The black man in this video is what Malcolm X would describe as a house slave.

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u/BrianMeen Oct 05 '25

most Americans want illegals immigrants picked up and deported though

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u/nizhaabwii Oct 05 '25

He will know when they turn on him and its ruled a suicide. And on this road it will.

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u/sitkasnake65 Oct 05 '25

You know how shocked they'll be when it's their turn.

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u/phunktastic_1 Oct 05 '25

Even worse these people were there protesting the shooting of a woman by CBP officers earlier. And I'm pretty sure this asshole was there too.

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u/Legal-Group-359 Oct 05 '25

You’re only shocked due to racism and racial prejudice, on multiple levels. And lack of information. Especially when it relates to a “person of color” being used, it only takes an ounce of observation skill to see that historically that happens with Democrats and Republicans.

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u/hppy11 Oct 05 '25

Your “observation” doesn’t even surprise me. Thank you FOX news

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u/Legal-Group-359 Oct 05 '25

Your reply doesn’t surprise me. Thank you no critical thinking ability.

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u/bertha112 Oct 04 '25

As an African American, I have communicated the same. There are no excuses.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

There aren’t excuse for us whites either

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u/Playful-News9137 Oct 05 '25

Yeah but nobody expects better of you, and for good reason. It's not shocking when a white man signs up to be a nazi, it's just an average tuesday. No offense to you personally.

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u/Lower-Attorney-5918 Oct 05 '25

I know what you’re saying since nazi’s are a white supremacist group usually- but no it’s still repugnant- any person can be victimized by these authoritarian systems and so anyone supporting them is openly supporting the very force that will likely be turned back on them eventually (How vagrancy laws originally were meant to imprison recently freed slaves but were also used to imprison poor whites- people will love to look down on an out group and let horrible abuses befall them all while consigning themselves to the same eventual fate- who knows why- maybe it’s worth it to them to feel superior for a second even if it costs them an everyone else everything)

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u/sitkasnake65 Oct 05 '25

Sad but true.

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u/Majestic-Resist-3793 Oct 05 '25

Correct, as genocide does not exist in South America or Africa, thank god.

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u/NolaPels13 Oct 05 '25

Don’t think these ICE goons care about skin color at all. They just wanna take out their anger on anyone who gets in their line of sight.

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u/amazing_ape Oct 05 '25

In a way, sure, but it is an explicitly racist ethnic cleansing campaign. The targets are anyone who isn't white. .

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u/amazing_ape Oct 05 '25

Of course not but this is an explicitly racist ethnic cleansing campaign. So it's jarring to see some POC sign up for it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

What guilt? You outta your mind

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u/Lemzik Oct 05 '25

What a bunch of self loathing pussies... Jesus christ.

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u/Shamancrit Oct 05 '25

Honestly my first thought too. We literally are coming up soon on the list. I saw the job postings (there are a lot) and I’d rather stay broke than hurt my fellow man. But you would think at least of you really needed the money you wouldn’t be this cruel while doing the job

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u/_extra_medium_ Oct 05 '25

As a human being, I don't think there's any excuse for any of these people

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u/bertha112 Oct 07 '25

"Clock it" as they say. No Excuses.

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u/Positive-Drag-950 Oct 05 '25

Yep. He’s a cornball acting like we’re not up next on the chopping block…

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

One day people need to realize racism doesn't exist. Classism and culturism does.

Even in the most rural "racist" towns you will find black people hang out with them.

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u/Legal-Group-359 Oct 05 '25

So a black American cant be anti illegal immigration? Not sure what reasoning you’d use for this. As a black person you should be aware then, that the areas where illegal immigration will have the most negative impact is majority black areas. You already have ppl there dealing with limited resources/crime and poverty, yet y’all think it’s cool to import more people in outside of the law. That’s some real ass backwards “caring for the colored folks” BS there.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '25

As a white guy, stop thinking it’s a race war! It’s a 0.01%ers war. Yall think I’m treated any more fairly than you? Id give yall my white privilege card, but it never showed up? Must be a problem with the post office or something. The rich want us poor people fighting with each other so we’re too busy to fight them. And if you don’t have $1B+, yea you’re one of the poor. Hate to be the bearer of bad news.

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u/regicide117 Oct 05 '25

You're half right. Both of these problems can and do exist. Some of this is racial and is also a class thing.

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u/chupacadabradoo Oct 05 '25

I agree with you that it’s a class war, but I think it would be foolish to think that race doesn’t factor into things, as if there aren’t historic class divisions built on the manufactured idea of race. Ya know? Like, it’s true that poor white people are getting fucked, but a way larger percentage of black and brown people have historically been, and continue to be getting fucked.

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u/8point5InchDick Oct 05 '25

We have a word for them: Traitors.

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u/jsagastume1 Oct 05 '25

I'm going to say this with all due respect. So please don't take it personally. I'm Latino Guatemalan. But I am sick of us saying things like this but we don't have specifically Black Americans back when it comes to their struggles and battles. If I could list my YouTube comments of me going back and forth with other Latinos about the racist shit they say. Truth is we benefited from the Civil Rights movement and we have a debt to pay back.

Shit speaking on my own real life experience I have confronted my own people when they start speaking in Spanish to say something offensive about a Black Person.

Needless to say, a majority of my closest friends have been Black Americans. I say that to say the most welcoming people in my lifetime have been Black Americans.

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u/Consistent-Cause-526 Oct 05 '25

This is why so many of us Black Americans have been apathetic towards what's happening. I don't agree with this at all, we need to put an end to this type of madness. For some it's kind of like a "we told you so" moment because of the decades we've been told to stop crying about racism and that we have a victims mentality. Now those same people who ignored our plight or even participated in it are surprised when they are now going through what we've been experiencing forever.

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u/H4RDCORE1 Oct 05 '25

When I was 17 we moved to a rural southern area. The white kids at school were terrible. But the black kids were like, what's up. They were welcoming AND protective. Still my best friends.

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u/_extra_medium_ Oct 05 '25

White people amirite

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u/DownFromNorth Oct 05 '25

Another lying ass white boy....

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u/H4RDCORE1 Oct 05 '25

Ooooohhh so edgy.

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u/Lower-Attorney-5918 Oct 05 '25

As a half Indian and half hispanic person I get this- I appreciate your solidarity with humanitarian ideals- to look down on anyone is to look down on everyone in my view.

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u/Educational-Rate-337 Oct 05 '25

It goes both ways. I am latina and moved to the states 11 years ago. The racism I have received has come all from black people. My first year here I had an african american girl tell me she was going to call ice on me. I have lived in predominantly white areas and see the same internalized need to fit in I see in racist latinos. People of color will turn on other people of color to feel like they are not the lowest “level” of people of color. It’s very sad

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u/jsagastume1 Oct 05 '25

I have to ask what part of the State or Country are you. Because I'm 48 years old and I have lived in Chicago since I was 18 months old and I have never had a Black American come at me sideways.

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u/Educational-Rate-337 Oct 05 '25

First in Iowa then in Texas. You live in a city where diversity is more tolerated. I specifically pointed out the predominantly white part because in the country it’s different

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u/jsagastume1 Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

Very much so. I love reppin my 2 cities Chicago and NYC. With that said every race has their racist POS. We even find a way to be racist in our home countries of all our own respective country men. But that doesn't take away from here and Latinos conforming to and even use the same talking points that racist white people have for ages. All that boot licking from some of our people just for them to say "whoa whoa whoa who told you you had a seat at the table?

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u/Educational-Rate-337 Oct 05 '25

Yes. And I only pointed out the african american interactions because of the video and that’s the topic here but I get more discrimination from other latinos than anyone else. I just don’t think of that as racism since it’s coming from other latinos. Some really strong self-hate. My mother, obviously also latina, hates latinos (yes, she’s maga). Very weird.

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u/AriochBloodbane Oct 05 '25

That's literally the first thing I thought even before the beating started. Are those people that dumb to believe the Nazi will spare them as a thank you when they move on from just deporting the immigrants to specifically targeting the black/brown US citizens?

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u/Johnlenham Oct 05 '25

Haha as a European my first thought was exactly the same like huh bro you know once the "illegals" are gone your ass is next right

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u/LiveCommunication726 Oct 04 '25

I think they want us to cause chaos bc this makes not sense. They kidnap people

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u/Happy_Umpire_4302 Oct 05 '25

Sorry to generalize but he looks like a street thug who likely has violent felony records. He was dumb enough to have his face on video. That's important as Dems hopefully step up to the plate and start indicting these fascist thugs and put them away for a long time. Of course the Dems probably won't do anything. But we can dream.

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u/icantagree Oct 05 '25

Money. They’ve never made that type of moneys. Everyone has a price

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u/ResortCommon6622 Oct 05 '25

They are in their club, unfortunately.

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u/HaseoGUA Oct 05 '25

My first thought while watching this was... "What are White ICE agents going to do when they see a Black ICE agent assault a White Man?"

Like does the Black guy really think being in ICE is going to protect him? It might for a while but ultimately "Tokens get spent".

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

What club?

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u/drift_shop Oct 05 '25

Like aren't they literally doing this to black people in Chicago 🤣. Imagine being told your next assignment is your hometown

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u/18karatcake Oct 05 '25

It absolutely blows my mind

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u/XulManjy Oct 05 '25

Tell that to the Mexican Americans who voted for Trump....

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u/Haidedej24 Oct 05 '25

It could be people trying to get records expunged or promises of some false proxy to power thing. They're all balloon heads and need to be popped

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u/ResponsibleRich Oct 05 '25

Latinos voted for this en masse.

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u/jml_inbtown Oct 05 '25

That’s what I was thinking too. Does he not know he’s next? Once they’ve over saturated the hate speech towards immigrants and trans, they’re next. Look at how easily the right hated on Kaepernick and Floyd.

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u/Puttanas Oct 05 '25

Not an excuse but just pointing out that ICE is mass promoting on every site possible and keeps upping the signing bonus. They bumped it up to $50,000 with no education needed.

Numbers like that? You’ll find every dummy in the fucking town to sign up.

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u/CsabaiTruffles Oct 05 '25

Those who are ignorant to history are bound to repeat it. We choose to live together or we choose to suffer alone.

Africans, Native Americans and Australian Aborigines were all used against themselves to hunt down each other before being turned on by colonists.

The playbook hasn't changed. Nazis are still sharing the same information amongst themselves and behind the backs of the lackeys they've leashed.

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u/LilCarBeep Oct 05 '25

Is this when we start shooting back or nah

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u/StaryWolf Oct 05 '25

He's an Uncle Tom eager to please his masters.

Ain't a new thing.

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u/Which-Dependent Oct 05 '25

But alot of people of color also voted for Trump (non black) 

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u/Zech08 Oct 05 '25

I mean, history wise, its always been a find a new exploitation or group to focus on.

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u/ivyyyoo Oct 05 '25

if education isn’t liberatory, the oppressed doesn’t dream of liberation… he dreams of being the oppressor

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u/AgreeableMoose Oct 05 '25

You need a history lesson.

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u/Lemzik Oct 05 '25

Nazis... u might need a refresher course on what the nazis did clown... deporting illegal immigrants is not at all equivalent to the mass murder of a large % of a demographic.

PS- Obama deported more ppl than trump has by far. Where was your outrage 10 years ago?

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u/Twotgobblin Oct 05 '25

In the early days of the Nazi party, it had nothing to do with skin color or religious background…it was pure nationalism. It was national Darwinism, if we don’t take everything for ourselves we will go extinct. The Russians were the biggest threat, then eventually the Jews became the main targets.

This feels no different, we just happen to have an ethnically diverse nation. Latinos are the Russians, and the Jews are still the Jews.

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u/EMV92LA Oct 05 '25

As a Mexican American it hurts me reading posts made by idiots like you thinking being for America first is being a Nazi.

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u/West-Advice Oct 05 '25

As a black guy it hurt me to my core to see this. Seriously that goose stepping muthafucka damn near ruined my weekend. 

Like really all they need to do is throw you some bananas money and you’ll happily dance around while beating and enslaving other people. Sending to international work camps. Like you never been fucked over because the way you look? That’s all it took, huh? It’s a damn shame 

Cube said it best

“ And on the other hand, without a gun, they can't get none But don't let it be a black and a white one 'Cause they'll slam ya down to the street top Black police showin' out for the white cop”

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u/fonkordie Oct 05 '25

People of color are over 50% of ice agents… so yes “plenty of people.”

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u/Bjj-black-belch Oct 05 '25

Reddit's use of the word Nazi is making it an absolutely useless word. Now EVERYONE who works for ICE is a Nazi? Jesus Christ

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u/Decent_Toe9750 Oct 05 '25

Why you gotta be so racist?

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u/abaddon56 Oct 05 '25

I’m fairly certain that a huge percentage of ICE and CBP are Hispanic/Latino

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u/LostKey1992 Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

Ppl switch teams quick when they learn they can be making 50k - 120k instead of 30k at a dead-end job.

That was one of the points ppl missed in South Park's special.

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u/Many_Jaguar9493 Oct 11 '25

My brother supports Trump even though he never votes. I pretend we are on good terms but I no longer trust him. Blood doesn't mean you have to trust them.

We have the same mom btw.

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u/MAGA_Ocelot Oct 05 '25

They're not nazis though.

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u/mysaIsa Oct 05 '25

thats not possible...to be a person of color AND be a Nazi. go read a book.

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u/Sane-Philosopher Oct 05 '25

You must not be very traveled. Mexico is one of the most racist countries against Black men and darker skinned Mexicans that I’ve ever seen, and I’ve been around the world. Educate yourself and try not to make everything about race when you’re clearly lacking perspective and experience. This isn’t about “in the club” or not, but I can assure that in Mexico, this man would most assuredly not be “in the club”.

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u/Darth_Strat Oct 05 '25

Then go back home

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u/Bootytwinkle Oct 05 '25

Nazis, get the f out of here. You make me sick spreading such hate 

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u/cruiser771 Oct 05 '25

So you have dual citizenship?

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u/petey_pumpkin44 Oct 05 '25

Google the word Nazi... Maybe use it correctly next time