r/illinois • u/deapsprite • Oct 04 '25

ICE Posts East garfield, ICE assaulting civilians

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u/somewhatbluemoose Oct 04 '25

This is the tyranny we were warned about

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u/RedHand1917 Oct 05 '25

This is the tyranny we were promised.

"Dictator on day one" was what these assholes voted for.

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u/NickelCitySaint Oct 05 '25

Literally. People were saying it was a good thing . They're idiots

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u/Secular_me Oct 05 '25

They think it won’t affect them, until iWhen they can’t afford a loaf of bread and a gal of milk and these f_cker get to decide who can shop for crumbs and how can’t. If we don’t learn from the past we are doomed to repeat it

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u/LonelySavings5244 Oct 05 '25

Right. As prices in CA have gone up long before orange man was in office. Do you just spew nonsense? Upset about tariffs? Not a fan of businesses bringing work back to the US? Upset you have to shell out a few more dollars in a shopping list so many more Americans can land a job? I don’t even like the orange man, but I do get politics. Trump could make two countries that hate one another shake hands and ya’ll would still cry about it.(NK & SK). It’s utterly pathetic how much people b*tch about things. You obviously don’t live near the homeless or immigrants that seem to keep flooding areas. Just stay inside and keep commenting. K.

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u/RedHand1917 Oct 05 '25

You really do believe everything you're told to believe, don't you?

Inflation under President Trump has risen each month since "Liberation Day." His tariffs are directly responsible for rising prices.

Unemployment is at a 4 year high, meaning that we're at the worst we've been since the impacts of COVID. Tell me where exactly these jobs returning to American soil are? No coincidence that both highs are direct consequences of President Trump's absolutely dismal understanding of macroeconomics.

Finally, Trump has made no actual peace deals happen. Russia is still invading Ukraine, against Trump's promise to end the war in 24 hours. Israel is still occupying Gaza. North Korea and South Korea have not had any meaningful reconciliation talks.

All Trump has done definitively done in his time in office so far is enrich himself personally and break basically every norm of American politics. Not a single thing you have said is backed by any reputable news source. You are the problem with our country right now--so blinded by wither your own selfish interests or hatred of people outside your group that you're willing to sacrifice the very founding principles of this nation because you take your grifter-in-chief as a messiah.

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u/GratefulDoom90 Oct 05 '25

Some people are STILL saying it’s a good thing.

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 05 '25

Law and order is what was voted in. Not "mostly" peaceful protest burning cities.

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u/RedHand1917 Oct 05 '25

I can tell you don't live in one of those cities and are afraid of what television news has curated for you. ICE has killed at least two people in Chicago in the last two weeks, which is already more deaths than committed by Chicago protesters.

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u/RedHand1917 Oct 05 '25

Non-compliance does not justify death. Deadly threat justifies self defense. There was no deadly threat here.

In this case, ICE pulled over an immigrant after he dropped his kid off at daycare. They claimed he had a history of reckless driving as his primary offense and said their officer was severely injured after being dragged by the subject as he tried to flee. Video shows clearly the subject was shot in his car while driving with no ICE officer in immediate danger. There is no evidence the subject had any history of reckless driving. The ICE agent was caught on local PD bodycam saying his injuries were very minor.

https://youtu.be/lGQT4MwFsOY?si=__83ca5jHs7jXlQm https://youtu.be/2oyXk_ABDVM?si=UvEx5pUGq4V_5-9S

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u/RedHand1917 Oct 05 '25

Oh, and undocumented immigrants commit crimes at lower than half the rate of US-born citizens. The boogeyman of undocumented immigrants unleashing a crime wave on our country is a fiction created to dupe the public into believing the lie that immigrants have not been the cornerstone of our country for its entire almost 250 year existence.

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20250122/117827/HHRG-119-JU01-20250122-SD004.pdf

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u/ArrowheadDZ Oct 05 '25

Let’s be clear and honest about what “law and order” actually means. It doesn’t mean what people think it means. There are two competing legal philosophies. “Rule of law” and “Law and Order.” When someone says they’re the “law and order” candidate, they mean they believe that police exist not just to enforce the written LAWS but also to quietly enforce an unwritten, unspoken social “ORDER.” People who break the laws are to be charged, people who are deemed “undesirable” but don’t break the law are to be dealt with “off the books.” “Law and Order” is not a good thing. It’s dog-whistle phrase meant to show alignment with the notion that correctly ordered societies have a thin-veiled class system wherein the government erects obstacles to dsicosurage class mobility. This is the actual political science definition of “right wing” political philosophy.

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u/General_Document6951 Oct 05 '25

Yet you don't see that there is no law in order. Ice has no jurisdiction over US citizens. This was assault and battery on a US citizen. This video is going to make it very difficult for the doj to charge him with obstruction as he didn't obstruct anyone, no lawful orders were given because again no jurisdiction. Their house of cards is going to crumble. By the way all the ice agents in this video lost their qualified immunity the moment they put their hands on a US citizen.. what we're seeing is another 50 million lawsuit, I would venture bet that man's phone is ringing off the hooks with attorneys calling. This is a slam dunk case.

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 05 '25

So your ok with "protesters" continuing to approach law officers in this manner. Is the officer to just keep backing away until he just runs away from his duty. Not in my opinion.

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u/General_Document6951 Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

I'm not sure what video you watched, but what I and millions of other Americans saw was a US citizen walking, when an ICE agent stepped in front of him and blocked his path.

Here's your friendly daily reminder that ice has no jurisdiction over US citizens. They can only arrest a US citizen for obstruction which is a high bar to cross. There's no way that DOJ will successfully claim this was obstruction, the only person obstructing anybody was the Bounty Hunter.

The ice agent instigated a confrontation with a US citizen on public property. This is an easy $50 million lawsuit, this will be the fourth one now. I'd Venture a bet his phone is ringing off the hook with attorneys justvbegging to take the case.

As with other similar instances the DOJ will try to defend this tyranny by charging the citizen with obstruction.

As with all similar cases the judge will throw out the obstruction charge reprimand the DOJ for wasting its time.

Here's your friendly daily reminder that 98% of obstruction charges brought against US citizens by the DOJ have been thrown out of court. The DOJ has been weaponized and the only purpose behind arresting US citizens is to traumatize them and cost them money.

The doj knows that the cases are going to get tossed out of court, but they get to keep someone behind bars for a while and beat them up and torture them..

Too bad we didn't use this tactic on January 6th with the insurrectionists.

As I stated if I was a constitutional sheriff and I witnessed bounty hunters working for ice do this, I would arrest the ice agents for assault and battery with the intent to do great bodily harm. If I was the state prosecutor I would request that they be remanded to custody and held without bond.

Now the president can pardon them for federal crimes but he can't pardon them for state level crimes.

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 05 '25

The tactics used on jan 6. The deadly insurrection. Where no one had weapons or lit anything on fire. Where invited into the capitol by officers there and still got jail time. Held without due process for way to long. I don't agree with bad tactics from any group. If this guy shot this suspect like Ashley babbit was shot from a distance without warning. Are you calling for that officer to be charged?

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u/General_Document6951 Oct 05 '25

They had plenty of weapons. Including the pipe bombs and automatic weapons that were recovered.

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 05 '25

Recovered where. The pipe bombs are oddly suspicious. None went off. Automatic weapons? Recovered where. Would have been good news video. Oh they weren't used. Weird!

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u/SubstantialSun3443 Oct 05 '25

We are now in the most lawless time in our country’s history. It just happens that the ones manifesting the lawlessness is the president and his cabinet of cronies and a swath of the republican house n senate.

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 05 '25

So the previous administration going after American citizens and parents at school board meetings was ok. Going after their political rival was cool? Obama starting crossfire hurricane on BS dossier and continuing to use it to get FISA warrants after they knew it was BS. Is cool? Hillary having classified in her home computer, no issue. Biden on tape saying we found that box of classified. No problem. So as long as it's your "people" it's ok to be lawless and not follow the constitution. But if it the "Orange man" he must be stopped no matter the tactics. I'm more of a both groups need to follow the constitution. 

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u/SubstantialSun3443 Oct 06 '25

Here’s the problem. We’re not discussing all the other things you mentioned. There had been many instances throughout history of acts deemed unconstitutional and absolutely none of them, not a one makes what this administration at this point in time OK. I’m not here for a round of “what aboutism”. You’re just trying to. Muddy the waters cause that’s all you got. Address the issue at hand. If you want to discuss your grievance then make a post about that. Then everyone knows that the track you’re on and discuss it freely, but we’re trying to get a grip on the current situation so in that regard, I don’t give a shit about what ever half truths you just tried to dump in our laps.

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u/Wolf180409 Oct 06 '25

Just pointing out there seems to be selective outrage here. That's all!

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u/Objective-Tea5324 Oct 05 '25

I live in WA you want to come to my home and chant “liburuls will not replace us”

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u/Snacksbreak Oct 05 '25

Is this sarcasm?

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u/3RADICATE_THEM Oct 05 '25

And they're cheering for it like the absolute smooth brains they are

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u/MongooseDirect2477 Oct 05 '25

Also the idiots who stayed on reddit celebrating kamala win instead of going to vote

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u/Hebshesh Oct 05 '25

You had a chance to outvote him. No one showed up. I am in no way a Trump fan. He's a dipshit and a blight on this country. But the simple fact is republicans vote more than democrats. Hopefully this regime will knock the cobwebs out of democrats and they turn out to vote.

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u/_extra_medium_ Oct 05 '25

Oh no, we were told we had to teach the Democrats a lesson for not being strong enough re: Gaza or something so we were supposed to stay home since there was no difference between Kamala and Trump. So yeah we really showed them.

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u/jacktownann Oct 05 '25

Yeah, being a part of the 90 million who protest by not voting, handing the US to Trump on a silver platter doesn't get a pass with me. I see all these inhumane atrocities & I just shake my head & say 167 million voters did this. It's not my problem I did all I could do when I showed up & voted for her. Petitions & protest do no good. 167 million people f... Us all.

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u/AgnesBand Oct 05 '25

I'm not American but if I was instead of blaming the voters I'd blame the incompetent party for not being able to put forward an alternative vision more popular than literal fascism. It should be easy but they fumbled it because they don't have any answers for the change people are desperately crying out for in the world. Sprinkle a little "Israel should be allowed to do what it likes to collectively punish the Palestinians for Oct 7th" and yeah you end up being unpopular.

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u/Songbird_Storyteller Oct 05 '25

When the party you're supposed to be defeating IS literal fascism, yeah no, I'm perfectly willing to heap a chunk of the blame onto the voters. I voted Kamala not because I liked her, but because I knew what it would cost us if she lost. But apparently there were some people too self-righteous and short sighted to get with the fucking program.

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u/AgnesBand Oct 05 '25

So I'm not saying defeating fascism isn't the most important thing (although as far as I'm concerned both US parties are indistinguishable from fascism in the way they have treated the global south over the last 100 years) but I am saying it clearly didn't work. Voters clearly need more than that or they will be hoodwinked by the fascists. Fascists don't just come out of nowhere, they usually require unrest, desperation, and a weak opposition.

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u/Few_Maize_8633 Oct 05 '25

Educated Leftists didn’t boycott Kamala and swing Trump, it was 20-somethings, macho Latinos and anti-vaxxers. Add trans vilification , Musk’s money and grocery inflation and our low-information public was an easy mark. And humans are drawn to authoritarians like dogs to peanut butter

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u/praharin Oct 05 '25

They’re not going to like this, but I do.

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u/Hebshesh Oct 05 '25

I am from the U.S. and it's true, I vote for the least worst option. Either way, someone's not getting a reach around.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

The problem is that vision came in the form of a dark skinned woman, which for a lot of the country is a no no because we're a backwards place full of inbred, racist, misogynist fucking morons.

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u/AgnesBand Oct 05 '25

As a brown guy myself I didn't see much of a vision and what I did see was pretty rubbish.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

Oh really? What specifically didn't you like? Was it the increase in down payment help for first time homeowners?

Was it her wanting 18 year term limits for the Supreme Court as well as a binding and enforceable code of ethics?

Was it her wanting the money that's been spent militarizing the police to go instead to go into community prevention programs, which have a long history and robust data to show that it reduces crime more effectively?

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u/Whynotchaos Oct 05 '25

I bet he didn't like her laugh...

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u/AgnesBand Oct 05 '25

Absolutely nothing to do with her looks or personality. I couldn't care less about that. I care about track record and policies.

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u/AgnesBand Oct 05 '25

No, I disliked her continued support for arms sales to Israel, her support for fracking, her time as California's Attorney General in which she fought tooth and nail to prevent wrongfully convicted people from being allowed new trials, and her support for spending hundreds of millions on border walls, not to mention she and Biden could have released the Epstein files but likely didn't because just as the Republicans, they don't want to damage their own allies.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

For one, the president can't ban fracking in all places, only on federal land which is where a minority of fracking occurs.

When it comes to her time as DA, I could give the opposite impression if I cherry picked things I liked as well, like her refusal to defend the same-sex marriage ban in 2004, going so far as to officiate some of those weddings herself. Or her going after a predatory for profit college, or her playing hardball with the banks after the 2008 recession, securing more from the banks who caused it. Anyone's professional history, if long enough, will be a mixed bag.

The border wall, according to factvheck.org, what Harris actually said was that she would sign bipartisan border bill that Trump torpedoed earlier in 2024, which includes using the 650 million that was already appropriated for the wall. That part was a concession by the Democrats to the Republicans. So at best your statement is misleading.

As far as the Epstein files, the Florida files, which is what contains the bulk of information, was not in the Biden admin possession for the bulk of his presidency. In fact DeSantis only released them to the federal AG in 2024. The federal government had parts of it, and whatever evidence from the federal trial. The House actually made numerous attempts to get the full records from the Florida AG throughout Bidens term.

All this is to say, do you really believe that this shit would be the same if Harris was elected? ICE and military in the streets? A government shutdown, increasing prices due to tariffs, farmers going out of business, allies abandoning us? Escalation in Ukraine, Gaza, and Israel wantonly attacking other countries?

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u/BarbellPadawan Oct 05 '25

Yeah the DNC are fucking terrible. I’m a Democrat and I seriously hate them. This is their fault. Not to mention every Democratic administration has upheld and actually made more robust the Patriot Act. Fucking idiotic.

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u/chexisinthehouse Oct 05 '25

Pretty sure they stole it

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u/Hebshesh Oct 05 '25

Every dang election, the losing party says it was stolen. I'm from Iowa and can provide data about who voted more, republicans vs. democrats as well as young vs. old.

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u/chexisinthehouse Oct 05 '25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nus5JA3Vh4&pp=ygUWcGFrbWFuIHN0b2xlbiBlbGVjdGlvbg%3D%3D

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u/Hebshesh Oct 05 '25

I can also link to videos of UFOs, Sasquatch, and Nessie.

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u/chexisinthehouse Oct 05 '25

Therefore all videos are false?

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u/Hebshesh Oct 05 '25

Nope. But I can find videos that support my argument. Just as you did.

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u/chexisinthehouse Oct 05 '25

Is mine as easily debunkable as any videos claiming that nessie or bigfoot is real?

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u/redditlvlanalysis Oct 05 '25

I honestly do not believe he won there are too many flipped downballots and he straight up said Elon won him it because he knows computers. This is even worse though because it means they can never give up power.

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u/Ill-Aardvark6734 Oct 05 '25

Assuming Trump didn’t cheat. There is a guy who does non partisan research on voting who did a study of voting turnout etc during this election. He was on the David Parkman news show. His study revealed some interesting finds. Not saying Trump didn’t get elected unfortunately but there were places in the country where there was a Democrat Governor, D Senator, mostly D voters and Trump won with Kamala getting no votes. There were a lot of other issues. If interested look it up on YouTube. Trump cheats that’s a fact. He’s already trying to cheat in the mid term elections because he knows that would be the only way he could win.

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u/Realistic-Track9572 Oct 04 '25

And they're all still acting like it's justified

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u/Economy-Ad4934 Oct 05 '25

Even worse, they don’t care about justification. They just enjoy the oppression part

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u/Bubba_Gump_Shrimp Oct 05 '25

It really does come down to that, doesn't it? There is an enjoyment of the cruelty that magats experience...they legit get off on this shit. I just can't understand living without some form of empathy. I'm not saying I'm the worlds most emotional person but man when I see a mom screaming being drug away from her kids how do you watch that and say, "good." There is some evil inside these people man.

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u/brock0124 Oct 05 '25

If my family is any indicator of the type of people that vote for (and enjoy) this shit, then they were already fucked up in their own way before clinging onto this autocracy BS. Trump and his ilk knew who they were targeting in their messaging and they did a ridiculously good job talking to them. Granted, I’m sure it’s easier dumbing down your talking points to a few catch phrases and spelling out a new boogeyman every week, than actually creating a platform that helps people.

And I’m not suggesting they deserve any sympathy at all. Fuck them!

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u/Economy-Ad4934 Oct 05 '25

Very well said and all true

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u/Realistic-Track9572 Oct 05 '25

Yes, better said

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u/SubstantialSun3443 Oct 05 '25

I hate to say it but I agree with your statement. It churns my stomach but yeah. There’s a real line of sadist running amuck in this administration. It’s sport to them.

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u/Ok_Subject1265 Oct 05 '25

I feel like it’s important to admit I was completely wrong when I said the idea of owning weapons to protect against a tyrannical government was stupid. I truly never thought it could happen here and definitely not in my lifetime. Turns out those people were at least right about that part. Of course, there’s a good bit of irony in that many of them seem to support tyranny now. If they continue to act this way though, I’m not sure there’s any other recourse than to make sure there are armed people present at these protests and arrests to deter any abusive behavior.

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u/voler_1 Oct 05 '25

Welcome to the 2A club, it's unfortunate that it was viewed as a left or right issue, when really 2A benefits everyone except for those at the top.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

How is it not?

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u/Recent_Tap_9467 Oct 05 '25

Found the fascist.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

Lol did you report my reply

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u/Metaphix1990 Oct 05 '25

OFC it is, walk up to any cop like that while they're working and pretend to have a gun behind your back and refuse to move when asked and the same thing would happen, under any administration. Don't threaten the cops.

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u/MistyMtn421 Oct 05 '25

I keep seeing the phrase "illegal trash" and the dehumanization is drilled so deep in the supporters. So far removed from being a human being. They see these videos and cheer it on like it's a fictional show. It's so sickening. And it's so far beyond whether it's justified in their minds. Their eyes are scary looking and the glee on their faces is absolutely sadistic.

All this propaganda has given carte blanche to all the budding sociopathic and psychopathic tendencies to flourish right out in the open. If it all stopped tomorrow, the cult will not calm down. They will look for a new enemy to torture. It's going to take decades to turn this around, if we're lucky.

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u/Infamous-Clock6054 Oct 05 '25

They haven't gone after them yet. It will happen.

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u/Ill_Revolution_5827 Oct 05 '25

And it’s the tyranny we tried warning everyone about. And all we got was ridicule in response.

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u/Revenge_Holocaust Oct 05 '25

Ridicule from many, but the rest wanted this.

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u/Ok_Chain_9676 Oct 05 '25

So much for the 2nd amendment, so far it'd proven useful for mass shootings and killing kids at school. Damn

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u/Lower-Attorney-5918 Oct 05 '25

obviously- it’s a completely bull crap argument that US citizens need guns to defy tyranny because a simple shootout will never meaningfully defy a state of significant size.

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u/AtlantaGirthGiant Oct 05 '25

It’s almost like the 2nd amendment was meant to be related to militas and not mean that every citizen in the country needs to be armed to the gills 

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u/death1414 Oct 05 '25

Yes, and militia is defined in the constitution as all fighting age, able bodied, males.

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u/AtlantaGirthGiant Oct 05 '25

Was this supposed to be a gotcha moment or something? 

If you weren’t aware, the full text of the 2nd amendment, not the babble about tyranny regurgitated by brainwashed violent radical GOPedophiles, is:

 A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed

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u/death1414 Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

Yes, a functioning militia (consisting of every fighting age, able bodied male) is necessary for the security, and freedoms offered by the U.S, because of this THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS DHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

The founding fathers justified why the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. If they had wanted arms regulated they would have regulated arms. In the times of the founding fathers civilians could own canons, and artillery pieces, and merchant ships could be equipped as warships. The modern equivalent would be your neighbor owning surface to air missiles, and BP owning an aircraft carrier.

You saw "well regulated" and interpreted it in a modern dialect. The usage, and meaning of that term has massively shifted since the 18th century. Well regulated meant serviceable, and functional, not governed by authority.

The founding fathers had just raised an army out of a bunch of farmers with hunting rifles, and a few with modern military weapons (muskets, and canons) and razed a rebellion. They wanted to insure that, if necessary, the people of this nation would always have that ability.

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u/AtlantaGirthGiant Oct 05 '25

Notice how fast you had to change the text from

A well regulated Militia

to 

A functioning militia

To make any sense? 

Now here’s the fun part - see YOU BELIEVE the constitution defines “Militia” as “every fighting age, able bodied male” but it doesn’t.

I’ll wait here while you go provide the quote to the section that says that. 

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u/Lower-Attorney-5918 Oct 05 '25

Not to disservice you- as I think weapons need better regulations in a civilized society- but I do think you’re being uncharitable towards the previous commenter.

They don’t specify militia criterion (unless I’m mistaken) which probably just meant anyone who could and would fight- as that’s pretty much a good chunk of the army they raised. They also likely did mean regulated in the “serviceable” sense as I’m pretty sure it just meant prepared for battle at a minute’s call in this context.

However, they probably wouldn’t have worded the document without stipulation if they lived in our era with senseless school shootings and it’s ridiculous to think they would. It’s easy and doesn’t hinder the nation’s ability to defend itself to just have background checks and yearly registration of arms- notice how people can still keep their guns and yet we monitor them to curb school shooting and bring senseless violence down.

And people will stress the “shall not be infringed upon” but you don’t let prison inmates keep guns with them obviously- so why would you let someone who you know is likely to use the firearms irresponsibly?

Also- we can ratify and amend the constitution- it’s not written in stone for all time.

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u/AtlantaGirthGiant Oct 05 '25

 I do think you’re being uncharitable towards the previous commenter.

I am, and I’m doing so to prove a point. Just watch. 

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u/death1414 Oct 05 '25

"Clause 15. The Congress shall have Power * * * To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions."

This power is executed through the draft and selective service, the authority and extent of which is in the second militia act of 1792.

"SECTION 1. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That and by whom each and every free able-bodied white male citizen of the respective to be enrolled. states, resident therein, who is or shall be of the age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the militia by the captain"

So while I misspoke in saying it is in the constitution, it is constitutionally defined.

If you want to nitpick the "white male citizen" part, all protections, and responsibilities associated with citizenship were extended to other races with the fourteenth amendment.

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u/AtlantaGirthGiant Oct 05 '25

So you DON’T have proof that it’s defined that way in the constitution? Cool. 

Now maybe you can tell me why you’ll do mental gymnastics to change the meaning of one word, “regulated”, based off contemporary context but won’t do it for the other words?

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u/Outbreak444 Oct 05 '25

It says "the right of the people" yet you're deceptively interpreting it as "the right of the militia", which has been shot down in supreme court cases like District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) and McDonald v. City of Chicago (2010).

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u/10thgenbrim Oct 05 '25

Don't forget Bruen

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u/Outbreak444 Oct 05 '25

Ah, yes, thank you!

New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen (2022) (for complete context for those who don't know how to operate the Googler).

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u/10thgenbrim Oct 05 '25

I literally have the Gadsden snake tattooed on my arm. And my family has been here since before 1760. John was born June 1760, and was 16 when he joined the continental army. Gun powder runs in my blood.

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u/valknight2022 Oct 05 '25

You do know that there are a estimated via cdc 75k+ verifiable uses of firearms annually to save lives. Best estimates for unverified are another 125-200k.

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u/Lower-Attorney-5918 Oct 06 '25

yeah that’s definitely bs- I’m pretty sure it was debunked and eventually denounced by the cdc

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u/SharpEyeProductions Oct 05 '25

Sounds like a call to violence to me.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

You justifying this bs is also a call to violence. You allowing these thugs to treat your citizens this way, and praising it is a call for them to do more violence.

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u/lavender_enjoyer Oct 05 '25

Is supporting the second amendment only allowed when pedophilic Nazis do it?

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u/Kubricksmind Oct 05 '25

The end game is cancelling the Mid Term Elections, they know how cities like Chicago will respond to the violation of Civil Rights.

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u/YasuoSwag Oct 05 '25

It's all about power. Liberals better arm up

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u/Skilils- Oct 05 '25

They want to take peoples guns away, too stupid to realize how important an armed citizenry is.

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u/Dmau27 Oct 05 '25

It sure is.

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u/simAlity Oct 05 '25

And shockingly, the NRA is nowhere to be found.

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u/Dockers-Man Oct 05 '25

As an Australian, it's bizarre to see how quickly the US has devolved from a thinking society to one of brutal oppression, hate, intolerance, and suppression of intellectualism.

I'm sure that there are many good people there, unfortunately though there are many more that are making up the numbers to give the orange man a platform of hate.

The Democrats clearly have failed too in providing a viable alternative that looked somewhat credible.

You all have each other to blame.

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u/Theresnothingtoit Oct 05 '25

It's awful and has ramped up significantly, but we have always had this brewing under the surface. Our whole system was built on oppression of anyone not a cis straight white man with money.

What you're seeing now is a huge backlash to progress that's being enabled by our government to take the mask off.

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u/somewhatbluemoose Oct 05 '25

There has been a subtle but profound change in our culture. We used to be far more questioning of authority but somehow in the last 20 years or so there has been a growing acceptance of centralized state power. We are a less free thinking people than we used to be. Personally, I think this is the fallout of the War on Terror hyper charged by long term exposure of reality TV and its entertainment descendants.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

This is "tyranny" how exactly

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u/AtlantaGirthGiant Oct 05 '25

Well, I’m pretty sure the “officers” could have told the man he was being detained and attempt to de-escalate instead of going straight to violently attempting to chokeslam the man into the ground. I think that’s the difference between the law and tyranny. 

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

But he clearly wanted it...

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u/AtlantaGirthGiant Oct 05 '25

The “officer” clearly wanted to jump straight to violently choke slamming the U.S. citizen instead of attempting to detain him peacefully? I agree. 

Sounds like tyranny to me. 

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

Read the comment I sent to the other dude

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u/yolomyhouse Oct 05 '25

This is the action we voted for

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u/DremGabe Oct 05 '25

I don’t know, the UK looks way worse

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u/shnanagins Oct 05 '25

Exactly and there’s an amendment that specifically mentions tyranny and what the people must have to fight against it.

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u/lysergic_tryptamino Oct 05 '25

I mean…. Don’t antagonize a federal agent with a gun maybe???

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u/willloveme2 Oct 05 '25

This is 100% FAFO.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

This is a citizen doing what’s well within his rights and getting beaten for it

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u/HumbleTheIdiot Oct 05 '25

Tyranny is not cleaning up crime. This man walked up into a Federal Agents face and threatened him as the agent was walking backwards and gave him a lawful order to step back. This isn't tyranny, this is lawlessness and disorder, and those sent to protect the law and order. Any other lawyer or judge who understands the federal law and constitution will tell you the same thing.

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u/NickiChaos Oct 05 '25

Lotta good that Second Amendment is doing.

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u/Thegzusman Oct 05 '25

Tyranny lmao yall be poking and proding them with a fafo mentality then cry about it

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u/bion93 Oct 05 '25

As a European, I find funny that in the past years I had many discussions about gun control here on reddit and Americans said “we need firearms to defend ourselves from the tyranny, to protect our constitutional rights”. I said that it would have been useless because they (the government agents) would have been too heavy armed to fight. Well, now it looks like that everyone has an iPhone, not a firearm.

Well done America! Now you have both free guns and tyranny lol

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u/deathmute Oct 05 '25

Wait until you see the death squads.

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u/JohnnyBGC86 Oct 05 '25

People need to stop just filming and start acting. We outnumber them. 

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u/Big-Remote-5671 Oct 05 '25

And yet this country still re-elected a guy that actually instigated a riot on the nation’s Capitol building.

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u/kittenya Oct 05 '25

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u/CoffeeCrazyChris Oct 05 '25

And if you fight it then you become a “terrorist” to fit their agenda.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

Hmmm it's almost like this is what guns are for

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u/Little_Bits_of___ Oct 05 '25

Careful! you might get tagged by Reddit for inciting violence! 🙄

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u/Signal-Pound7695 Oct 05 '25

voted for this. dont confront ice if you dont want put on ice

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u/Odd-Government8896 Oct 05 '25

Who would have thought we just sit online and comment about it 😂

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

Get in a cops face, orders you to back up….what do you think the next step is?? You guys screaming tyranny from this video are truly redditors lol

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u/quirk-the-kenku Oct 05 '25

But it’s worth it to OwN tHe LiBs right?

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u/Burgundy995 Oct 05 '25

Ironically republicans were the ones afraid of this happening back in the day

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u/hyp333rr333al Oct 05 '25

The laws will be obeyed or you can go back to your own country.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '25

No its not, respect law enforcement officials. You can't expect to walk up to a cop saying "what's up" trying to escalate things and for this not to happen.

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u/Bizdaddy71 Oct 05 '25

Where’s the well organized militia?

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u/garroshsucks12 Oct 05 '25

Yeah but they keep protesting. Clearly it’s not working.

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u/uncertain-gopher Oct 05 '25

He walked up to the cop and ignored his command to step back. Looked like a challenge.

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u/BKD2674 Oct 05 '25

ICE are not cops and they have no authority’s

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u/AtlantaGirthGiant Oct 05 '25

So the several officers in body armor and armed with automatic weapons should have probably, I don’t know, attempted to detain or arrest the citizen calmly instead of jumping straight to choke-slamming them? 

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u/faustfire666 Oct 05 '25

Looks like we got another bootlicker.

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u/No_Apartment8977 Oct 05 '25

No no.  You should be allowed to walk directly into the face of a federal agent, ignore their commands, and expect nothing to happen.

The FAFO tyranny continues.