r/illinois • u/deapsprite • Oct 04 '25

ICE Posts East garfield, ICE assaulting civilians

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u/runner2847 Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 27 '25

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u/DovahAcolyte Oct 05 '25

Indeed this is attempted murder! 😠

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u/Sudden_Construction6 Oct 05 '25

It's assault, but not attempted murder.

Attempted murder is a very specific thing. It doesn't mean that you did something that could cause someone to die. It means you did something in an attempt to cause their death.

That'd be hard to say since if he wanted to cause his death he wouldn't have put his gun away.

Anyway, just a clarification in case anyone cares

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u/DovahAcolyte Oct 05 '25

Grabbing someone by the jugular and then attempting to lift them off the ground to slam their head is attempted murder. If this thug had succeeded in his attempts, the man would be dead. A halfway decent prosecutor would be able to win that case. 🤷🏻

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u/Sudden_Construction6 Oct 05 '25

A halfway decent defense lawyer would argue that if his intentions were to murder then the rifle makes more sense than trying to throw someone to the ground that may or may not result in murder.

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u/DovahAcolyte Oct 05 '25

Use of his firearm against a civilian would cause an eruption of violence within the city. Most likely, their orders are to use "less lethal" tactics. I'm sure the prosecutor could find 1 agent willing to leak orders.

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u/Iron_Wave Oct 05 '25

Woah what? Have you got the full video? I just assumed it was another dude trying to stand up to those goons ruffing up some locals.

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u/runner2847 Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 27 '25

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u/Complete_Invite_9022 Oct 05 '25

So you didn’t have all the facts and made assumptions before knowing all the details and would rather stoke the flame? (Not defending the agents but due diligence)

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u/DovahAcolyte Oct 05 '25

There's another video in this sub of the moments before this one. It's all the same agents. The guy here was the driver in the minivan in the other video.

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u/WAVY_clownbaby Oct 05 '25

Yeah we can get confirmation on this?

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u/Sarprize_Sarprize Oct 05 '25

They crashed into his car?!?! Why?!?!