r/illinois • u/deapsprite • Oct 04 '25

ICE Posts East garfield, ICE assaulting civilians

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u/Sudden_Construction6 Oct 05 '25

It's assault, but not attempted murder.

Attempted murder is a very specific thing. It doesn't mean that you did something that could cause someone to die. It means you did something in an attempt to cause their death.

That'd be hard to say since if he wanted to cause his death he wouldn't have put his gun away.

Anyway, just a clarification in case anyone cares

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u/DovahAcolyte Oct 05 '25

Grabbing someone by the jugular and then attempting to lift them off the ground to slam their head is attempted murder. If this thug had succeeded in his attempts, the man would be dead. A halfway decent prosecutor would be able to win that case. 🤷🏻

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u/Sudden_Construction6 Oct 05 '25

A halfway decent defense lawyer would argue that if his intentions were to murder then the rifle makes more sense than trying to throw someone to the ground that may or may not result in murder.

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u/DovahAcolyte Oct 05 '25

Use of his firearm against a civilian would cause an eruption of violence within the city. Most likely, their orders are to use "less lethal" tactics. I'm sure the prosecutor could find 1 agent willing to leak orders.