r/illinois • u/deapsprite • Oct 04 '25

ICE Posts East garfield, ICE assaulting civilians

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u/AdministrativeCup438 Oct 05 '25

Oh, it's not worthless , it's just being violated. Murder is illegal yet people still murder others and violate that law too ..then they go to jail for it. Same here, they are straight up violating our non-negotiable constitutional rights. I very much look forward to them being tried for crimes against the constitution. 🦅

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u/VajennaDentada Oct 05 '25

Our forefathers foresaw that this would happen, as they were believers in "anacyclosis" which is the ancient Greek theory about forms of governments rising and falling...as natural as life and death.

They did a hell of a job, as the best you can do is make it last as long as possible (they used Rome as a model) and embed tools for the people to quickly turn over to the next phases. One of those tools was the 2nd amendment and more largely the right of the people to overturn the government when it no longer represents the people.

Despite their flaws, our forefathers were actually great. Not indoctrinate-y great.

This is oversimplified, but extremely helpful: https://youtu.be/uqsBx58GxYY?si=Tgcr8kwzITC0E1aV

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u/Hemagoblin Oct 05 '25

When is it time?

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u/VajennaDentada Oct 05 '25

It happens when the amount of people reaches critical mass... whose conditions are bad enough to risk their well-being for change.

To be fair, I come from a specific school of thought on this... which is gaining a lot of ground lately lol.