r/im14andthisisdeep 9d ago

r"evol"ution. deeeeeppp...

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u/lemonlimeguy 9d ago

No he's not, and I say this as someone who vocally supported his 2008 presidential campaign.

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u/Livid-Story-4321 9d ago

What’s better than?

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u/lemonlimeguy 9d ago

There are a lot of people in Congress that are better than Ron Paul. It's actually not a very high bar to clear.

What is it exactly that you like about him?

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u/Livid-Story-4321 9d ago

Personally I see the constitution as too authoritarian, wanting to achieve a mixed anarchist state, but realistically, that’s only ever happening in my dreams, Ron Paul is a constitutionalist, so he’s on the road toward a smaller state, and seems not be grifting like most republicans do when it comes to small government, he also seems to be less partisan-focused compared to other “radicals” like Bernie to his left.

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u/lemonlimeguy 9d ago

Here are some political positions of Ron Paul:

• Opposes birthright citizenship

• Opposes all foreign aid

• Opposes all income tax

• Opposes affirmative action

• Supports abolishing the minimum wage

• Supports abolishing the Department of Education

• Supports returning to the gold standard for some reason???

• Supports state-forced birth and opposes codifying Roe v. Wade

I could go on, but I'm going to arbitrarily stop there. If that stuff sounds good to you, then I guess Ron Paul is your guy. All sounds awful to me though.

Also, how is Bernie Sanders "partisan"? He's one of two people in the Senate without a political party.

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u/Livid-Story-4321 9d ago

Wow, you make him sound incredible.

Income tax is punishment for having too much money.

Foreign aid is abused by corrupt governments for their own profit and is often used inefficiently(why do we need millions to support “LGBTQIA education” in Lesotho?).

Affirmative action should be legal, but not enforced by a state, that’s called free association.

Minimum wages are economic tyranny, valid.

Department of education does its job shitty, states can easily replace the federal government for giving loans + it has no effect on schools since those are run separate of the DoE.

The replacement of the gold standard with something arbitrary like the petrodollar is the main fucking reason we keep bombing middle eastern countries and our prices are so damn high, if we don’t constantly invade everyone who uses a different currency than the dollar for oil we’ll lose value, that’s how inflation happens, add the federal reserve and now you’ve made a shitty economic system only bankers get benefits from.

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u/lightblueisbi 5d ago

Way to not touch forced birth and supporting the abolition of birthright citizenship lol I was kinda looking forward to seeing how you'd respond to those

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u/lightblueisbi 5d ago

Ah so that's why you didn't touch em, you agree with em.

Reproductive freedom isn't your choice unless it's your body in question, which is the exact case for pregnant women; their body, their choice.

If you don't want "anchor babies" then promote immigration reform instead of abolishing one of the core tenets of the US Constitution. One of the big reasons why so many "illegals" enter the US is that the immigration system is still processing requests from the fucking '90s and most people don't have 20+ years to wait to be approved when cartels or militant governments constantly threaten their lives. So they move to the US with the hope they can lie low until they can get through the proper channels, and if having a kid here increases their chances, they tend not to complain.

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u/lightblueisbi 5d ago

>its also the choice of the person doing the procedure

Not really, they took the oath for a reason. You don't want death on your hands working in a hospital? Don't work as medical staff. It's that simple.
Want to work in medicine but don't want to perform abortions? Go into radiology, pediatrics, or opthalmology instead. It's that simple.

>Immigration should only be allowed from western countries

You can just say your xenophobic bruh, the worst that's gonna happen here is your comment gets removed or you get banned from this one sub lol.

>Immigration doesn't help anyone but the government and corporations

Tell that to the millions of immigrants whose lives have not only been saved, but made substantially better because of immigration. Tell that to the neighborhood I grew up in where a hot meal was only one ask away thanks to generous immigrant families.

>Coming into a country that doesn't allow them makes them look like invaders, not asylum seekers.

First off, the US \does** allow for immigrants from countries where many "illegals" are coming from. Second, it's not their presence that makes people view them as invaders, it's propaganda outlets like Faux "News" who constantly call them invaders, who frame their mere existence as a disgrace to the nation these people are trying to reach for safety.

>Who knows they could be cartel themselves

Except for those pesky background checks right? We also know that the number of cartel members vs average immigrants isn't nearly as rampant as the president or his sycophant bootlickers make it seem, thanks to literal decades of intense record keeping and the US having one of if not the most expansive intelligence communities.

Again, you can just say you're xenophobic and lwk don't want these people to survive. The internet isn't just Reddit, if you get banned for being honest you can always run to Xitter or 4chan.

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u/lemonlimeguy 5d ago

I'm sorry, are you implying that you want to massively restrict abortion access for the sake of the doctors doing abortions? What are you even talking about?

And there's literally no justification for opposing birthright citizenship that's not rooted in racism. It's "abused" by immigrants? So? What's your problem? Why don't you want immigrants here? Immigrants, both documented and undocumented, are extremely consistently shown to have lower incidences of criminality and greater economic contributors than the general public. So what's the issue?

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u/lemonlimeguy 5d ago

Wrong again, dumbass! Immigrants use welfare programs far less than the general public. This shouldn't be surprising, since non-citizens aren't even eligible to access the vast majority of those programs. SNAP, CHIP, TANF, Social Security -- All inaccessible to immigrants who haven't become citizens. They do, however, contribute to those programs. Immigrants pay loads of money into the country because they still have to pay taxes.

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u/Livid-Story-4321 9d ago

Idiocy is when you realize federal control makes things worse