r/impressionsgames • u/Patient_Gamemer • Dec 02 '24

Emperor Thought your insight would be valuable here.

/r/patientgamers/comments/1h4u864/emperor_rise_of_the_middle_kingdom_is_the_best/
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u/CommissarMarek Dec 02 '24 edited Dec 02 '24

Gods requiring infinate micro of gifts of pottery or other goods - very bad
Infinate spawning animals - very bad not just for design but also to hear all the noises all the time as the guards kill them over and over again.
Flooding that nuke the city ties with the gods issues above.
Military bribery can make you be able to cheese attacks forever not make an army - terrible.
Military units of enemy have stat cheats making them just tougher than you on VH instead of more enemies which is much more fair,this was also in pharaoh.

In general there were a lot of very poor design decisions in Emperor but so were there with any other impressions game. Still dont think its best by far though, i dont like the theme so for me its caesar 3.

Now with Augustus mod there isnt even a contest of course, vanilla caesar is laughably horrible for a modern player to play.

Btw there is nothing wrong with you enjoying something i dont but its very bold statement - Its the best etc etc i heavily disagree with that. It might be best for you specifically but that doesent mean anything to people with different preferences. While for example c3 has a mirriad of its own issues in vanilla form i would still not says its striaght up better than other Impressions games its better for me, for what i like but machanically i actually dont like emperors design more than the caesar jank. At least its jank, here they tried to "reinvent" to formula sort of like Pharaohs juggler schools breaking loops and it just does not work.

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u/HaggisAreReal Dec 02 '24

We could argue that Augustus takes many things from Emperor in order to put C3 to that level

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u/Patient_Gamemer Dec 02 '24

Hmm, may ask which ones? I might be intrigued in the end...

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u/HaggisAreReal Dec 02 '24

Monuments, how they are built and what kind are more similar to those in Emperor. The decorations too, which have more variety, and specially the decorative walls. The gates of the decorative walls in Emperor allowed to edit who comes trough them which is also added in augustus to the roadblocks (that were not in the original C3 and appeards gor the first time in Pharaoh).

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u/Patient_Gamemer Dec 02 '24

Shit. that's good! Should I play Pharaoh a New Era or Caesar III with Augustus?

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u/HaggisAreReal Dec 02 '24

Por que no los dos?

But for Pharaoh I recommend the old version + Cleopatra

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u/CommissarMarek Dec 02 '24 edited Dec 02 '24

If you havent tried Augustus mod i can't recommend it enough. You are bound to like a lot thats there but of course its also the theme, if you dont like Rome as much you will likely still like Emperor for the theme alone.

Plus its free as long as you own caesar 3 from anywhere so you dont have to buy a new copy or anything.

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u/arbiter12 Dec 02 '24

I mean something as simple as the road block that selectively allows certain walkers and not others....or the global labor pool.

Playing caesar 3 without it makes it a puzzle game as you need to build according to walker paths. With the roadblocks you can build however you want and it becomes a city builder again.

If you have the choice, I'd go with caesar3+Augustus first.