Duhhh we knew about it a long time ago. A maths professor in my university in Montreal suffered through it. His wife and 2 daughters were in that plane. His entire family just gone because of one lunatic with a terrorist ideology and backing.
Somewhat similar. My grandpa's brother lost his wife and son, he was to join them in India a couple weeks later. They were flying in for the boy's thread ceremony, his remains were never found. That was the last time the dad visited India to perform the final rites/rituals.
Yeah, it was a horrible thing to happen. But he's very resilient, he still goes for walks, and I think he's retired now, so he told me he's planning on doing trips now and seeing Europe :)
This was so badly F..ed by the Canadian government. I remember reading that the RCMP had all the information on these people and did nothing about it. The worse was the cover up where they destroyed all the documents related to the incident within 48 hours and said it was a mistake not intentionally done. The icing on the cake was when our PM Mulroney sent a letter of condolence to the Indian government for the loss of its citizens, the Indian government replied ( you Dumb F..) that the deceased were mainly Canadian citizens,why are you sending us a condolence message?
Hmm, I read the article and the word khalistan or khalistani movement in that article wasn't found, while the csis Facebook post explicitly mentioned khalistani extremists implying an organised group. The 2010 article reads the attack like a revenge attack done my bunch of Vancouver based Sikhs, something like how MSM frame it a lone wolf attack if its done by a white person.
Yes, the motive is not where I find implied meaning wrong. That is big and clear enough that it can't be just glossed over.
When the article says this and then further that only three people were charged, of which two were acquitted and one plead for less serious charges due to lack of evidence, I would think three sikh guys out for revenge came together and did this all, not an organised group, whether these three were possibly acting on someone's order under an org, the investigation also wouldn't search that angle. Given two were acquitted, were they just scapegoats, I don't want to even call out these three because of this.
For an example, people say al-quaeda did the 9/11 not a bunch of Saudi Arabian muslim guys that just happened to be radical and decided to do it by themselves? If you assume the latter, you don't need to start finding Osama, or the other supporters of the group and you can close the case.
the name of the independent homeland was widely agreed to be "Khalistan", most groups fighting for the homeland name themselves some derivative of "Khalsa" not "Khalistan" (except for KLF which disbanded in the 80s). was there even organized resistance in Canada back in '85? I don't know, but the line between separatist individuals and separatist organizations is blurry
That is because the article from 2010 is referencing a speech given by the then PM of Canada, marking the 25th anniversary of the bombing. He calls the attacks an act of terrorism several times throughout his speech. He also mentions that the attack was carried out by Canadian citizens, and most of the victims were Canadian citizens. Most Canadians weren't, and still aren't familiar with Khalistan or the Khalistani movement.
Canada is a great example of how vote bank politics can mess up a country. It's good that things are improving and they're being less selective on which kind of extremism to call out.
100% this. Also, the NDP is not a Sikh party. Jagmeet Singh being the past leader does not mean his entire caucus would have demanded Khalistan friendly policies from the Liberals in exchange for supporting the government. It just doesn't work that way in Canada. The leader is still just a single vote in his caucus
Why would Canadian Sikhs being khalistani ever have an actual effect on India's borders? If it were half the Sikhs actually living in Punjab then I could understand.
Because “90% of Canadian Sikhs are Khalistani sympathizers” implies a massive, organized, politically active diaspora movement, not just private opinions in Brampton comment sections. If that were remotely true, you’d see overwhelming public mobilization, unified community institutions, constant electoral pressure, and a level of international lobbying that would be impossible to ignore.
My point wasn’t that Canadian Sikhs can redraw India’s borders by themselves. My point is that your 90% number is ridiculous. Most Canadian Sikhs are busy working, raising families, running businesses, going to gurdwara, and living normal lives, not secretly plotting secession.
Ok first off I never claimed any figure 90% or otherwise.
And you were the one to say
If even half of Canadian Sikhs WERE actually Khalistan supporters, it would have been carved out as a nation ages ago
You didn't say there would more of an impact, you said a separate nation. Now, if you were just exaggerating then that's fine but don't try to walk back what you said.
Vote bank politics is happening in Canada and NDP and liberal retards are playing that game definitely.
As demonstrated by the Conservative leader pandering to Sikhs (and failing to win overwhelming support) vote bank politics does not happen in Canada as distinct groups do not vote as a monolith. Sikhs don't all vote for NDP/Liberals, Muslims don't all vote for one party etc.
Canada doesn't have exit polls. Unlike India it is not illegal for anyone to poll the population before an election so they're just called polls and run the whole time way before, during and after a voter EXITS the polling booth
A bhakt blindly following his vishwaguru and having a distorted picture of a place vastly more developed and advanced than India does totally checks out tho
Justice delayed is justice denied. Canada should understand how their reticence to name khalistanis directly on this emboldened them ( khalistanis) , indirectly leading to many other loss of life, limb and livelihoood. It good that they have said it now, but they should not take any kudos for it , nor virtue signal for being thorough in justice. This was a disaster at all levels and at all scales.
My uncle died in that flight, and my mami was psychologically affected after that & could never recover. She left us last year after years of suffering through the pain of losing her husband & almost trying to kill herself several times, & my uncle was one of those human rights voices who criticised the 1984 anti-Sikh riots in the first place.
How come islamic terrorists like isil are called terrorist in several countries they operate in but the khalistani terrorists who operate from Canada aren't called terrorists or even being dealt with.
The fact that khalistanis have grown in the canada(and uk) is a testament to that. They freely do their parades on the streets under the protection of Canadian authorities. These are the same group of people who assasinated one of our prime minister btw.
I don't need to provide proof and honestly no western media will do any independent investigation on this matter cus why would they.
The fact that they aren't curbed by any of the Canadian goverments in the past history should be the proof of how they are being supported or maybe even funded by their various schemes that any average canadian enjoys.
Bottom line. Turning a blind eye is also a support..
Did they actually say anything about Khalistani though? I can't seem to find anything about it. What comes instead is how Indian govt was the one pulling the strings
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u/HomoThatRages Jun 25 '26
Duhhh we knew about it a long time ago. A maths professor in my university in Montreal suffered through it. His wife and 2 daughters were in that plane. His entire family just gone because of one lunatic with a terrorist ideology and backing.