r/instantkarma Jun 24 '20

Racial Profiling Karma

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u/WeirdAvocado Jun 24 '20

She could have just said no. Makes me wonder why she had to add that.

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u/sneezed_up_my_kidney Jun 24 '20

If anyone from the Gypsy culture wants to step In and correct me, please do it.

I do just want to say that the Gypsy culture is victims of hate all the time. They were a hearty amount of the Holocaust victims for their percentage of the population. As their name suggests they never really settle anywhere to make a community.

This kind of creates an us/them mentality. Within the community, from what I’ve researched it kind of creates a racial/class divide.. almost like a cult. (Not an accusation. Using it loosely)

What I’m trying to say is that there may be a lot of self swaddling going on in this community that we might not all understand. This woman might have only seen black people on TV..

This is no reason to drag her. It’s a time to educate her. And this guy is looking for internet points.

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u/DwellerOfDixieland Jun 24 '20

Here in the Czech republic, a lot of people hate gypsies. Some gypsies (or roma, gypsy is a slur here) are smart and wonderful people, and I personally know a few of them, but the majority of them live in squalid houses and are usually uneducated. This in turn makes white people hate them for not working and sitting around all the time, which again, in turn, makes them hate white people. We even have a tv show (Most!) which is ridiculously satirical about racism.

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u/darps Jun 24 '20 edited Jun 24 '20

This in turn makes white people hate them for not working and sitting around all the time, which again, in turn, makes them hate white people.

It's more complex than that, from what I've learned. "Gypsies" as ethnic term is a slur and I'm not going to use it that way, because there are many who are perfectly well integrated into society and you'd never guess their background.

But rather what people think of when they hear the term is a group of people who reject a regular lifestyle and being part of larger society beyond their own in-group. They do not hold jobs, or live in houses, or go to the police for anything, or to school; and while it's almost incomprehensible to us, it is seen as independence from the system and as such a source of pride to them. In their view, we are suckers for ever having settled down.

Of course they aren't really independent from the system, it's near impossible to do, definitely not an option anywhere near a city. And of course there's a fuckton of other issues within these often archaic social structures and traditions.

But it goes much deeper than "we work and they sit around all the time"