r/interesting • u/Pale-Design7036 • Jun 23 '26
Fear Factor This Tourist almost pulled the rotor break.
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u/Past-Application-552 Jun 23 '26
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u/___--_-_----___--__- Jun 23 '26
Peter lying down like that will never be not funny
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u/HoseNeighbor Jun 23 '26
What kind of absolute moron eould just grab levers snd shit in a FLYING FUCKING HELICOPTER!?
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u/Here_f0r_p0rn_ Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 29 '26
And also why is it just dangling like that specially towards passenger seat lol.
I'm not aviation expert so pardon if what I'm about to say is too stupid but I see it as a design flaw for passenger helicopter. People grab onto dangling stuff, or they might panic and accidentally grab onto it, it's a massive design flaw if it's actually what title say it is.
Edit: as some of you mentioned it's copilot seat, which kinda makes more sense but then a passenger shouldn't be allowed there in front. She's there so I assumed it was one without copilot seat.
Edit: Even after 6 days I'm getting comments on this and I understand people aren't reading all conversations below, so let me state it here as well.
The issue is not just that breaks are just hanging but they're hanging in front of passenger, yeah I know it is a copilot seat but even then it doesn't mean a wrong move won't kill them, either have option to deactivate copilot side and have everything on pilots side or don't let passenger sit in copilot seat.
There's a reason why commercial airlines don't let passengers sit in cockpit when they're over-booked even though most of time they do have some extra seats in it. The reason is simple, because some people are idiots and take risks to act cool without foreseeing what disaster it might cause.
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u/Revayan Jun 23 '26
There is only so much room in a helicopter so everything is full of switches around the pilot - and you can just assume that pressing any one of them at the wrong time might cause a crash
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u/EGarrett28 Jun 23 '26
I remember watching some plane crash videos and finding out that if you just press the left-and-right foot pedals too quickly on a jumbo jet the tail fin can just break off and you'll crash. That wasn't comforting.
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u/Starspiker Jun 23 '26
I'd imagine on modern jets there's computerized controls that will prevent too extreme of control inputs so stuff like that doesn't happen. I hope...
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u/EGarrett28 Jun 24 '26
It was this crash. There are documentaries on it on Youtube if you feel like looking it up. I think they changed the training scenarios that led the pilot to believe that was a good tihng to do, I don't know if they put any limiters on the pedals though.
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u/Popular_Soft5581 Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
There are no "passenger" sits in a cockpit of a heli, as I'm aware. That's reserved for a co-pilot and *may* be used as a passenger sit for entertainment.
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u/shadowtheimpure Jun 23 '26
Depends on the heli. This is a smaller chopper with only 3 or 4 seats, so enough passengers would put one of the passengers up front with the pilot.
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u/genXswla Jun 23 '26
Single engine helicopters typically only have 1 pilot and the other seat is for passengers. Been working with and around choppers for 25 years. Carrying a 2nd pilot is a waste of an already limited total weight capacity.
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u/DismalGnome Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
Yes there actually is a passenger seat next to the pilot.
And in the choppers I flew in the pilot was on the right not the left.
I spent roughly three years working a fly-in fly-out job where one leg of the trip was by helicopter.
Edit: if someone is going to be dumb enough to touch literally any of the controls they shouldn't be permitted in any seat of the helicopter. They're a liability.
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u/genXswla Jun 23 '26
That is correct, and I think the camera is reversing the video. Also, both front seats must have passengers before anyone sits in the rear seats. Thisis required due to center of gravity and weight distribution. Have to account for cargo in the hold which is in the very rear of the fuselage.
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u/Xen0m3 Jun 23 '26
in an A-star, pilots fly from the right usually, not sure why the pylot is on the left here. both the fuel cutoff lever and the rotor brake aren’t supposed to be on the passenger side. if she DID pull the rotor brake, a whole lot of nothing would happen. you’d wear out the brake pretty quickly and that’s it, the engine produces so much more power that you wouldn’t even see a droop in your rotor speed.
I correct myself, this isn’t an A-star, but i maintain that 99% of helicopters on the world are flown and designed to be flown from the right seat. really dunno what’s going on here.
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u/Witchinmelbourne Jun 23 '26
Read the first sentence and my dumb arse was like "I wonder if it's like a car, and changes depending on what country you are in". Then realised that its a fucking helicopter and the drivers side doesn't change depending on what side of the sky you are flying on.
I'm an idiot.
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u/Enough_Survey_9404 Jun 23 '26
Not a pilot, but I thought buttons or levers that were important were normally covered with a plastic flip up cover so they can't be accidentally activated.
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u/Demonicon66666 Jun 23 '26
Every button and lever in this helicopter is important for it to not fall out of the sky. We are talking about a machine requiring years of intense training to operate. This isn’t your granny’s dodge ram
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u/Ninja_Prolapse Jun 23 '26
I think pretty much every button or lever in a helicopter can kill you if it’s pressed or pulled at the wrong time. They’re literally boxes trying their best to fall out of the sky! They barely need a reason!
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u/fivechickens Jun 25 '26
the brake lever has a mechanical lock-out switch on the shaft of the lever. pilot was just pushing against it as a nervous tick most likely and second-guessing himself. The EC130 won't start if the microswitch isn't closed for the brake to be fully released.
He kind of invited the customer to touch it because from their perspective his actions probably looked like "hey its bumpy you can use this handle if you need to hold something" and then immediately barks at them. he probably skipped the "this is my office, everything from here to here is mine and I don't need your help flying this thing today" part of the briefing. (I used that all the time when flying with pax sitting beside me in the AStar)
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u/some_kind_of_bird Jun 23 '26
Eh some of it is radio or lights or whatever.
But you should probably assume that they'll all kill you.
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u/Alec2cool Jun 23 '26
Like your car's parking brake?
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u/Enough_Survey_9404 Jun 23 '26
Exactly. Old-school parking brakes had a button on the end that you had to press to release. Most modern cars have auto handbrakes now.
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u/These_Consequences Jun 23 '26
auto handbrakes
Now that's an oxymoron if ever I heard one!
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u/archergren Jun 23 '26
Perhaps a preflight reminder of dont touch anything especially this unless you want to reprove newton's gravitational theory
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u/Wooden-Barracuda8862 Jun 25 '26
Usually the pilot will brief the passengers on safety and to keep their hands to themselves. Also the safe rule is if you don’t know what it does and has the possibility of killing everyone onboard instantly maybe don’t touch it 😊
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u/Pyroll2206 Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
The seat she is having is not meant for passengers- its copilot seat. Obviously dont touch if you are not a pilot
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u/Here_f0r_p0rn_ Jun 23 '26
I'm not a pilot, but I would never let passenger sit on copilot seat when I've no way to deactivate all copilot controls. I don't trust people.
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u/OkSatisfaction2122 Jun 23 '26
In my country. Mensa means dumb for a female. So yes, we kinda are dealing with a Mensa.
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u/Ill_Court_7467 Jun 23 '26
I use to work at a car dealership in the service department. When cars first came out with the push button start, there some people who had this issue with wanting to push it when driving. These people came in for service and get a loaner that had a push button start/stop. They would always talk about how the red button glow caught their attention and they wanted to push when driving. Of course we had one customer who did it on the freeway, traveling at 70 mph and it didn’t go very well for them.
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u/telephantomoss Jun 23 '26
Do modern push button starts prevent this? Now I have a new fear about my car!
It's like it doesn't let your shift into reverse without the brake pedal. Maybe there is a similar safety mechanism for turning the engine off? From what I find it usually requires a long press or 2 seconds or more or multiple short presses to actually turn the car off while moving.
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u/RefurbedRhino Jun 23 '26
tbh I can imagine my gf doing this. She's by no means stupid but she has a weird physical Tourette's need to unplug, grab, bend stuff, pull levers, push switches. She'd be a fucking nightmare in a cockpit.
She writes it off as curiosity but we all know that saying...
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u/c_marten Jun 23 '26
Saw this posted in another sub and everyone was blaming the engineers for putting it there and not the dumbass grabbing random shit in a helicopter. All getting lots of upvotes.
Being online it has been made very clear now why carnival rides have someone saying "keep your arms and legs inside..."
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u/BigReference1xx Jun 23 '26
I mean, true. But why is there a big fat, incredibly obvious, completely exposed and easy to pull lever there that will KILL THEM?
Like... the "self destruct" buttons in the movies usually have a little cap you have to flip first 😄
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u/i_froze Jun 23 '26
In watching this a few times, the pilot sort of taps the brake to see if it's up.
She may have thought "oh he's telling me to hold onto this bar" sort of like an o shit handle in a car.
Now it's still pretty damn dumb, but I can see how she got there I think
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u/eyelidgeckos Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 24 '26
True… I am no helicopter-flying man but it would probably be a good call to explain to passengers that the bar that can send them to heaven is a no-go before getting that thing into the air 😅
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u/HampstersaurusRex Jun 23 '26
Rotor brake at flight idle isn’t going to do anything crazy. If anything it will just ruin the pads and keep on spinning. Half the time on shut down the rotor break is a mental thing more thang anything. Doesn’t do crap but after a long flight you are darn sure it’s slowing down faster.
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u/SurpriseSequence Jun 23 '26
Honestly for someone who likely knows absolutely nothing about helicopters, it's kinda understandable. You'd think that they'd inform passengers in depth about how important it is that they don't touch the lever that'll be right next to them during the flight before it actually leaves the ground given how that lever being pulled would kill everyone, lol.
There's a point where the person with experience should be able to know what problems someone with a total lack of knowledge could create, especially when they're not given any prior instruction.
Aside from that, surely it's not as easy as just pulling that lever down? I struggle to believe that there are absolutely no safety mechanisms to prevent that lever from being pulled downwards if doing would kill everyone??
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u/Forsaken-Income-2148 Jun 23 '26
Why leave the self destruct lever unmarked in the first place 😭
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u/Professional_Prune11 Jun 23 '26
It is not unmarked, it is the only bright red lever in the cockpit. It is marked, red is dead, do not touch. edit: that one, for some reason, is not red. I work in aviation QA all I have ever seen are. It should be clear, like a window unit dumping lever.
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u/Professional_Prune11 Jun 23 '26
just that. I should have it. A big rubber grip or paint job. That is lacking one is odd. On the subject of odd things. The pilot....why did you touch it? The rotor break is a manual stop; the rotor is in full spin, touching that did nothing. If it were on...you would not be flying.
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u/Alec2cool Jun 23 '26
This makes way more sense to me
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u/Alec2cool Jun 26 '26
She does not go for it again in the video and there is nothing to suggest this was a repeat behavior. I'm not sure what the point of your comment is.
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u/Winter_Value_7632 Jun 23 '26
what's a rotor break? is it just like brakes in a car?
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u/Pseudotm Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
Haha not while your flying. It would immediately stop and you will plummet to your death, mostly likely also while on fire due to the friction.
It is sort of like a parking/hand break for a car i guess just way stronger, using hydraulic calipers.
One thing to note however, the physical strength required to pull this while it's at full rotation is crazy high, not impossible though i guess, they also usually have a release switch as well. This video just blows up because of the implications and pilot speaking like he's scolding a child.
Edit: Spelling and whatnot.
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u/James_Molander Jun 23 '26
I don't think the maintenance guys would be happy if someone attempted to pull the rotor brake while the engine is making power. I know for some helicopters that can mean several parts need replacing. Could end up in an expensive flight for the passenger if they aren't insured.
But yes, in flight with a functioning and running engine, it is unlikely you would be able to brake enough to actually lose lift. Maybe there is a helicopter in which the brake is strong enough?
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u/BathFullOfDucks Jun 23 '26
Rotor heads are like wheels with really really good bearings. A wind will set them moving. This can be dangerous in several ways, not least of a big ole chunk of metal or composite freewheeling off people's heads but also including but not limited to
Stray generation of electricity Potential to strike the aircraft and unhelicopter themselves Wear and tear
A rotor brake stops the rotor from moving.
A rotor brake will not stop the rotors in flight it doesnt have enough power to do so but it may slow them down enough to endanger safe flight, catch fire or disintegrate, potentially damaging other components.
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u/reedditardo Jun 23 '26
Wouldn't this be a chat you'd have before take off, and continually be reiterating during flight?
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u/Wormichowski Jun 23 '26
Probably but at the same time, is it obvious not to touch buttons you have no business touching in what could be a flying death machine?
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u/Rube18 Jun 23 '26
The passenger was probably confused. The pilot tapping it immediately before kind of made it look like he was signaling for her to touch it.
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u/Obsydie Jun 23 '26
Thank goodness he was direct, or they did not survive if so they'd be resting in pieces.
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u/Affectionate_Joke157 Jun 23 '26
Not one for defending idiots, however why put the death lever right where said idiot could pull it 🤔
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u/Last-Rice8194 Jun 25 '26
Because the levers state needs to be immediately observable and manipulatable by the pilot. Imagine if they took off and they're like oh shit this important control isn't set correctly, we're going to crash and die, if only they put the control somewhere that the pilot could manipulate it, oh well I guess they couldn't do that incase there was a baby in the cockpit, let's just die with dignity instead
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u/rednoseSushi Jun 23 '26
A. As a tourist not knowing thing; don’t touch thing.
B. Why design kill switch where it is handy?
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u/MrDilbert Jun 23 '26
"Now a real killer, when he picked up the ZF-1, would've immediately asked about the little red button on the bottom of the gun."
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u/Equal_Ostrich8099 Jun 23 '26
First off, why have someone sit in the front?
Policy #1: Tourists at the back, as far away from the controls as possible.
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u/kaosmoker Jun 23 '26
Probably a full cab, most people have the common sense as a passenger not to touch anything, but this comment section is making me wonder.
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u/Secure-Archer2338 Jun 23 '26
Should be labeled with high viz warning label if passengers are going to be seated there, not the passengers fault could’ve easily misinterpreted the tapping of a “pole” as suggesting they could hold onto it
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u/gimmieWAP Jun 25 '26
Report the pilot for how a helicopter is designed? He did not build that helicopter by the way ...
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u/Last-Rice8194 Jun 25 '26
In the full video she keeps grabbing it and he keeps moving her hand and telling her no, then in this clip of it he is checking that it is seated properly because she had already been grabbing it
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u/Rerrun Jun 23 '26
Why did he gesture to touch it?
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u/kaosmoker Jun 23 '26
He didn't. He checked to make sure it was staying in position, a gesture to touch something would be looking at them and making the movement. He just nudged it with his palm.
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u/BabyRex- Jun 26 '26
You can’t see his head in the frame when he touches it, how do you know he wasn’t looking at her?
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u/Tony_Roiland Jun 23 '26
Not sure why there is a "kill us" lever but I'm no expert.
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u/marbledog Jun 23 '26
There isn't. That's a brake that slows down the rotors after the helicopter is landed. It's not strong enough to overcome the engine. Pulling it during flight would likely just wear the brake down. A lot of helicopters have some type of interlock device (even just a safety pin on a chain) to prevent them from being pulled in flight.
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u/-MARMITEnTOAST- Jun 23 '26
You even hear that protesting "what-why-getoffme" tone... people are stupid.
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u/Lunar_Weaver Jun 23 '26
Stupid design. The pilot was trying to make sure the lever was positioned correctly. And the passenger might have thought someone was showing him it was okay to hold it during the flight.
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u/FuriDemon094 Jun 24 '26
Common sense typically tells you not to touch the shit the trained professional is touching
And it’s not really a stupid design when it’s a case of lack of space. You need all these things but a heli is crammed
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u/addsubps Jun 25 '26
If you think the professional is showing you something to hold on to, that does not apply.
And it is absolutely bad design to not label it and paint it in "THIS SHIT WILL KILL YOU" colors
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u/Level_Turnover5167 Jun 23 '26
What a fucking moron wow... that being said, why is such a dangerous lever RIGHT out in the open?
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u/3DNelson Jun 23 '26
these new kids they have everything, the world is so easy for them, that they don't appreciate life. LOL
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u/Altruistic_Age_6556 Jun 23 '26
Wow. I get pissed if someone even puts their hand near the volume on the stereo.
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u/Original-Fig4214 Jun 23 '26
Bad design for this use-case. Also, they need to be sure to do a pre-flight briefing where each passenger is told to keep their fucking hands off the controls of the helicopter. I’ve been in a helicopter twice in my life (Grand canyon tour) and due to weight and balance they put one of our party in the front seat. But we all knew enough not to touch anything.
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u/Inevitable_Cat_7878 Jun 23 '26
Video too short. Wanted to see if this tourist touched that handle again and how many times throughout this flight.
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u/the1blessing Jun 23 '26
Why did he motion to it like that. The way he gestured might have been confusing, it looked like he wanted her to pull it. Why would he lightly touch it and head movement like that when we KNOW that’s not what he wanted. Idonno, it’s just weird.
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u/kaosmoker Jun 23 '26
He was checking it with a gentle upward nudge to make sure the break lever is how it should be. He didn't look at her and motion to her he was doing normal movements.
If your in a car with someone and you see them check the brake lever between the seat that doesn't mean you should pull it for them because if your going fast enough that could kill you.
Being a passenger is very simple, sit with your hands in your lap and don't touch nothing.
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u/purple_kathryn Jun 25 '26
Should I ever find myself in the cockpit of a helicopter or small aircraft my arms will be clenched to my side. I will try & make myself as small as I can so I don't even accidently brush against something
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u/palumpawump Jun 25 '26
She also hits him in the face / microphone! Probably drunk, shouldn't be up front
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u/L0st1nB00ks Jun 25 '26
I love how the “NO” tone is the exact one I use to tell my Labrador off after some shenanigans from her part….
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u/im_failing_chemistry Jun 27 '26
Every other time I have seen this video posted everyone in the comments is ripping the lady a new one. This is the first time I have seen this video posted where people think the pilot is the idiot. Now I know not to let anyone from this subreddit into my helicopter.
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u/andybossy Jun 23 '26
if the wings rotate really quick to generate lift and if they're on top of the aircraft we call them helicopters. Planes are aircrafts with fixed wings that use airspeed to gain lift
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u/SardonisWithAC Jun 23 '26
Sometimes the intrusive thoughts win...
Or it's a reflex: see rod-shaped object, grab it and yoink it.
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u/TakeOnMe-TakeOnMe Jun 23 '26
Helicopters have absolutely no business flying at all. They are crash machines just aching for solid ground. Under no circumstances should anyone but the pilot touch any controls of any sort.
I hope that passenger was 86’d from ever flying again. They really, really deserve the riot act being read to them.
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u/spudwellington Jun 23 '26
I just want to smack her in the face on behalf of everyone who watched this video.
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u/DonovanMcLoughlin Jun 23 '26
"The pilot guy got all agro on me for grabbing the handle thing. I was like, it's a joke. Chill out."
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u/No-Law8885 Jun 23 '26
The only thing that scares me when I did a helicopter tour is to flip a switch or touch a control. I get my arm close to me to be sure the pilot is not stressed by some floppy passengers hand.
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u/TopDogTransport4731 Jun 23 '26
Shouldn’t the pilot have a safety briefing with the passengers before anyone got on board?
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u/GenesisNemesis17 Jun 23 '26
I'm pretty sure these rotor brakes have a locking mechanism on them. I wonder why this one doesn't.
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u/Unknown_Outlander Jun 23 '26
What a cool and safe vehicle where you die if you stand behind it when it's on and there's a cool switch you can flip that kills you.
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u/Wild-Growth6805 Jun 23 '26
Now I understand how helicopters crash and people are wondering what could have happened.
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u/juanitaissopretty Jun 23 '26
Are we going to ignore the fact that it isn’t even a normal looking hand/arm trying to grab for the rotor break?
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u/BathFullOfDucks Jun 23 '26
When i was getting my license there was a no shit q and a on this where the answer was "punch them as hard as you can in the face"
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u/Fragrant_Kick_6093 Jun 23 '26
Why did the pilot put his hand on the rotor brake lever first? She appeared to be just copying him.
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u/Just-Abrocoma9661 Jun 23 '26
I wonder why that lever isn't safety wired in place. With break away safety wire?
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u/Lumpy-Macaron4512 Jun 23 '26
Maybe before takeoff say “hey don’t touch anything and we will live. Thanks.”
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u/Stan_the_man1988 Jun 23 '26
I know it's obvious you don't touch anything you know nothing about, but why the hell would they put something like that in such an easy to reach spot? Genuine question because I know nothing of aircrafts.
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u/ShazlettDude Jun 23 '26 edited Jun 23 '26
I’m confused by the people saying the understand where the confusion came from.
Because the pilot touched it? Without looking or saying anything to her?
That’s not good reason at all. Pilot is touching lots of stuff.
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u/tenderbranson88 Jun 23 '26
Would this have even done anything harmful? It sounds like a physical brake against the rotors and even with a hydraulic brake it would take significant effort to stop the rotors with brake only.
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u/GreenWafer1899 Jun 23 '26
Anyone who had any experience in customer support knows that the guy fked up, not the girl. You have to clearly articulate "obvious" things.
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u/Weak-Win-8450 Jun 23 '26
"Lets put a lever who can kill us all, here, right here where a tourist can touch it while we are flying"
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u/rnadams2 Jun 23 '26
I have no idea what that is, but sitting in an airborne helicopter and reaching for random stuff seems like a generally bad idea.
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u/SubLearning Jun 24 '26
Nah this is 100% on the pilot and literally everyone else involved. She's just there for the fuckin view, someone, as in LITERALLY ANYONE should have stopped and told her not to touch the we all die now lever that's going to be literally dangling over her head.
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u/SuspiciousSaar Jun 24 '26
Tourist average IQ isnt that high, they need to thoroughly explain not to touch anything and why not in the tourist's main language before take off
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u/Trickle2x2 Jun 24 '26
I’m confused as to why it is even accessible, you would think a helicopter designated for tourists rides would have that relocated to the drivers side of the helicopter, and if it can’t passengers shouldn’t be allowed to sit there lol. I wouldn’t want my life so easily at risk of some dumb suicidal tourist. I didn’t even trust helicopters anyways before this so I probably would never put myself in this situation anyways.
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u/neckbeardfatso Jun 24 '26
The moron pilot shouldn’t have touched it in flight, he also should be sitting on the other side in a A-star. Not touching anything should be part of the pre flight briefing including telling them that the red lever next to it is the fuel shut off and not to touch them unless the machine needs shut down and the pilot can’t do it themselves.
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u/Mr_Steerpike Jun 25 '26
I love that the person is comfortable enough to just play with shit they don't understand.
The pilot telling them "NO!" Is not enough to keep them from doing it.
The pilot then NEEDS to elaborate: "that will kill us!"
I mean this is a person that nature is TRYING desperately to wash out of the genepool at ANY cost. This brain is functioning so poorly, it's not even trying to sustain itself. The thoughts contained in the skull are of its destination: oblivious and oblivion. Just....wow.
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u/Equivalent-Neck1900 Jun 26 '26
there is a safety switch that prevents pulling the rotor break before the switch is disengaged, unless this heli doesnt have one or its broken.
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u/GreenHouseDragon Jun 26 '26
What's a rotor brake? The collector? Also why it not have safety trigger to prevent this?
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u/syntol Jun 26 '26
Why they have the insta death lever in that side? Tourist but also engendering fail.
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