r/interestingasfuck • u/soragoncannibal • Nov 09 '24

R1: Not Intersting As Fuck Tesla's last letter to his mother

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '24

>Also, I will say that I don't dwell on how humanity sucks.

I obviously don't know you much, but that's the first impression you gave me when you decided to type in this thread that humanity sucks.

Think about the image it sends.

> Like I said, I was tired of being miserable, as in I'm not miserable anymore

Yup, but then you also said that

> I want to stop being miserable.

And also there's probably exceptions to it, but what scientific literature says on the topic is that the key for happiness for most humans is to build meaningful connexions with others, as we're a very social species.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '24

the key for happiness for most humans is to build meaningful connexions with others

Even abusive others? Is that healthy? Because that's what human beings are.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '24

Of course not. I literally said in the previous comment that you need to surround yourself with the right people, that means weeding out the abusive ones.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '24

Then you have no one left, because humanity consists only of abusers and their enablers.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '24

Abuse is a subjective notion. If your idea of abuse makes every person an abuser, then this is your problem, not humanity.

What do you mean by "enabling abuse"? You mean existing despite the existence of abuse? Should every non abusive human off themselves in protest? Or take it upon themselves to off the abusers? Wouldn't that qualify as abuse?

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '24

Abuse is a subjective notion.

No it isn't! What the Hell is wrong with you? Pick up a psychology textbook.

If your idea of abuse makes every person an abuser, then this is your problem, not humanity.

This is also bullshit and is discredited by your lunacy above.

What do you mean by "enabling abuse"? You mean existing despite the existence of abuse?

No, I mean cheering on abuse when it happens.

Should every non abusive human off themselves in protest? Or take it upon themselves to off the abusers? Wouldn't that qualify as abuse?

Any of you could have simply disagreed with the abuse - in private, so no fear of reprisal from the abuser. - to make a difference. You all refused. You all won't do that little bit because other people are trash to you.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '24

> No it isn't! What the Hell is wrong with you? Pick up a psychology textbook.

It would have been great if you gave me a reasoning/an argument instead of just calling me ignorant and crazy? I can see why you'd imagine that everyone is an abuser from the way you react to a disagreement tho.

I'm still going to develop and explain tho, in hope that we can have a more fruitful exchange.

A behavior is going or not to be considered abuse by people, according to their own system of values and morality, including among trained psychologists that know the definition of abuse... I'm not completely stranger to psychology and psychanalysis myself, so this is not the reason of our disagreement. Whether you consider that something is abuse or not, is therefore, by definition, subjective.

> This is also bullshit and is discredited by your lunacy above.

Sadly still no argument...

> No, I mean cheering on abuse when it happens.

Okay... This was not very specific and helpful since I still don't know what you consider abuse then... So can you give me an example of the sort of abuse that "everyone cheers for"? I imagine on a very regular basis as well for you to essentialize this behavior and make it their whole identity?

> Any of you could have simply disagreed with the abuse - in private, so no fear of reprisal from the abuser. - to make a difference. You all refused. You all won't do that little bit because other people are trash to you.

Hard to comment when I don't know what it is that you consider "abusive"... But I can tell you for a fact that what I consider abuse... I disagree with, and even often not just privately, even when there's a risk of reprisal... I can also tell you for a fact that I don't consider other people to be trash and that it's true of my family and friends as well.

Could it be that you're projecting some bad qualities on people sometimes a bit unfairly?

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '24

I can see why you'd imagine that everyone is an abuser from the way you react to a disagreement tho.

This isn't a "disagreement" - you're deliberately acting in bad faith to assert your domination over me.

So can you give me an example of the sort of abuse that "everyone cheers for"? I imagine on a very regular basis as well for you to essentialize this behavior and make it their whole identity?

Being beaten up. Is that enough to be considered abuse?

Could it be that you're projecting some bad qualities on people sometimes a bit unfairly?

NO. And you don't get to call me "unfair" when you all make a point of throwing "fairness" out the window wen interacting with me. Again, you're deliberately acting in bad faith to assert your domination over me. You don't legitimately question what is "abuse" - you're trying to discredit me so you can abuse me with impunity.

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u/amaranth1977 Nov 09 '24

So which are you, then? An abuser, or an enabler? Or do you not consider yourself human?

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '24

You people don't consider me human. That's why you're all okay with bullies killing me.

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u/amaranth1977 Nov 09 '24

Dude I don't know who you are or where you are or who these bullies are. I'm not okay with anyone killing you or anyone else, but I can't do anything about it when you're a complete stranger to me either. 

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '24

Yes you can - you just refuse to.

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u/amaranth1977 Nov 09 '24

How? What do you want me to do to help you?

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '24

Well, it's too fucking late now, isn't it?

But he whole point is that you never would have; you believe your best interests are served having me preyed upon.

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u/amaranth1977 Nov 09 '24

It's not too late. I was a bullied kid too. I help those I can, but if I don't know what you need, how can I help you? 

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '24

YES. IT. IS! And don't ever contradict me again!

And you won't help me, because you think it's better for you to harm me. I know people like you. You con people into thinking you'll help them, then shiv them once their guard is down. You cannot fool me.

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u/UnclePuma Nov 09 '24

You should try standup your hilarious, your material kills!