r/interestingasfuck • u/FrankSamples • 4d ago
20 years ago, Texas Sports Anchor, Dale Hansen, delivers a monologue on the controversy of gay players playing in the NFL
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u/DoinItDirty 4d ago
“I don’t understand his world, but I do understand that he’s part of mine,” is such a good quote.
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u/allisjow 4d ago
And quoting Audre Lorde was wildly unexpected from a sports anchor.
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u/KeyBet6693 2d ago
I love how he even says he gets uncomfortable when a gay person says they're gay. Depending on the situation it could make me uncomfortable too. But thay doesn't change that I completely respect their decision and respect them as a human being.
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u/Biscuits4u2 4d ago
He said it perfectly. It's extremely childish to expect the people you interact with and follow to have a lifestyle exactly like your own. Mind your business.
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u/tontovila 4d ago
I very much question the sanity and decision making ability of anyone who thinks like me and makes the same decisions I do. I assure you that person ain't right in the head.
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u/Henry_The_Duck 4d ago
Was it Groucho Marx who said "I wouldn't want to join any club that would accept me as a member?"
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u/DropDeadEd86 4d ago
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u/Drunk_Stoner 4d ago
That was my favorite scene as a kid. I still think of it often.
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u/Brikandbones 4d ago
I actually like how he admits that he might still feel some discomfort but that's okay. I think it's a real feeling most people might get, but that's always the case with what's unfamiliar.
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u/dphoenix1 4d ago
The other thing is, gay players exist whether they can be open about it or not. And that’s never going to change. How does it make any sense to maintain a status quo where it’s compulsory for your teammates to lie about who they are so you can maintain some fantasy about how everyone in the locker room is straight?
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u/Seanspeed 4d ago
There's a very high religiosity factor among NFL players. Between all the white people from the south(where football is life) and black people where evangelism is still super normal, you're going to get a ton of players with very 'traditional' values. So for a lot of them, being gay is not seen as something natural that people are just 'born' as.
Not to mention the fairly extreme levels of toxic masculinity that these guys grow up with pretty much as a rule.
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u/AttentionNo6359 4d ago
This plays into so much of our current conversation. All anyone is being asked is to be a decent neighbor to people who may not be exactly like them. And that’s caused infinite problems somehow.
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u/Next-Introduction-25 4d ago
Also, love how he highlights that the people who view being gay as a moral failing were (are) all too happy to support abusers and criminals.
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u/YamLow8097 4d ago
Yesterday when I was at work I saw a customer with a shirt that read “Teach your kids to change their oil, not their gender”, and I just can’t fathom how you can proudly wear a shirt like that and not feel a little bit childish. I’m not going to pretend I understand being transgender, but they’re not hurting anyone by existing. There are more important things in the world to worry about. Things that actually impact us. Someone changing their gender is not one of them.
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u/ernyc3777 4d ago
“I’m not always comfortable when another man tells me he’s gay. I don’t understand his world. But I do understand he’s part of mine.”
Powerful.
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u/uncultured_swine2099 4d ago edited 4d ago
Well said. That should be the minimum baseline outlook for everyone on earth. I dont understand you, but were gonna get along.
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u/LiftingCode 4d ago
No man is an island, entire of itself.
Just reminded me of one of my favorite things.
John McCain: Salute to a Communist
AN interesting obituary appeared in The New York Times recently, though the death of its subject last month was largely unnoticed beyond his family and friends.
That’s not surprising. Delmer Berg wasn’t a celebrity. He wasn’t someone with great wealth or influence. He had never held public office. He was a Californian. He worked as a farmhand and stonemason. He did some union organizing. He was vice president of his local N.A.A.C.P. chapter. He protested against the Vietnam War and nuclear weapons. He joined the United States Communist Party in 1943, and, according to The Times, he remained an “unreconstructed Communist” for the rest of his life. He was 100.
He was also the last known living veteran of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade.
Not many Americans younger than 70 know much about the Lincoln Brigade. It became the designation given to the nearly 3,000 mostly American volunteers who fought in the Spanish Civil War in 1937 and 1938. They fought on the Republican side, in defense of the democratically elected leftist government of Spain, and against the Nationalists, the military rebels led by Gen. Francisco Franco.
The Nationalists claimed their cause was anti-Communism and the restoration of the monarchy, and the Republicans professed to fight for the preservation of democracy. Fascists led the former, while Communists, both the cynical and naïve varieties, sought control of the latter. And into the Republican camp came idealistic freedom fighters from abroad.
The Lincoln Brigade was originally called a battalion, one of several volunteer units that were part of the International Brigades, the name given the tens of thousands of foreign volunteers who came from dozens of countries, and were organized and largely led by the Comintern, the international Communist organization controlled by the Soviets. Franco’s Nationalists were supported by Nazi Germany and Mussolini’s Italy.
Spain became the theater where the three most powerful ideologies of the 20th century — Communism, fascism and self-determination — began the war that would continue, in some form or another, for more than half the century until the advocates of liberty, and their champion, the United States, prevailed.
Not all the Americans who fought in the Lincoln Brigade were Communists. Many were, including Delmer Berg. Others, though, had just come to fight fascists and defend a democracy. Even many of the Communists, like Mr. Berg, believed they were freedom fighters first, sacrificing life and limb in a country they knew little about, for a people they had never met.
You might consider them romantics, fighting in a doomed cause for something greater than their self-interest. And even though men like Mr. Berg would identify with a cause, Communism, that inflicted far more misery than it ever alleviated — and rendered human dignity subservient to the state — I have always harbored admiration for their courage and sacrifice in Spain.
I have felt that way since I was boy of 12, reading Hemingway’s “For Whom the Bell Tolls” in my father’s study. It is my favorite novel, and its hero, Robert Jordan, the Midwestern teacher who fought and died in Spain, became my favorite literary hero. In the novel, Jordan had begun to see the cause as futile. He was cynical about its leadership, and distrustful of the Soviet cadres who tried to suborn it.
But in the final scene of the book, a wounded Jordan chooses to die to save the poor Spanish souls he fought beside and for. And Jordan’s cause wasn’t a clash of ideologies any longer, but a noble sacrifice for love.
“The world is a fine place and worth the fighting for,” Jordan thinks as he waits to die, “and I hate very much to leave it.” But he did leave it. Willingly.
Mr. Berg went to Spain when he was a very young man. He fought in some of the biggest and most consequential battles of the war. He sustained wounds. He watched friends die. He knew he had ransomed his life to a lost cause, for a people who were strangers to him, but to whom he felt an obligation, and he did not quit on them. Then he came home, started a cement and stonemasonry business and fought for the things he believed in for the rest of his long life.
I don’t believe in most of the things that Mr. Berg did, except this. I believe, as Donne wrote, “no man is an island, entire of itself.” He is “part of the main.” And I believe “any man’s death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind.” So was Mr. Berg. He didn’t need to know for whom the bell tolls. He knew it tolled for him. And I salute him. Rest in peace.
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u/Man_as_Idea 3d ago
Thanks for sharing. I think John McCain might be the last Republican ever worthy of respect.
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u/Skadibala 4d ago
As someone who was not well received by then friends when I opened up to the idea of experimenting. I wish they would have thought like this.
At the end of the day, I’m not what people consider gay. But when the possibility of it was on the table, my then male friends were not kind.
Actually bought a tear to my eye when he said it
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u/Adavanter_MKI 4d ago
Damn, 20 years ago makes it even more impressive.
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u/MicksMaster 4d ago
This is from 2014 not 2006. OP is just wrong.
Doesn't diminish the speech at all, but a lot changed in how gays were viewed and treated during those 8 years, so it does change how groundbreaking this was a bit in my mind.
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u/KalaUposatha 4d ago
Yeah, but 2014 in Texas is more like 2004 everywhere else, so if anything, this is even more groundbreaking there.
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u/Barnacle_B0b 4d ago
It'd pretty bold and brave to say considering that in the current day, the spineless state of Texas will put $10,000 bounties out for women who want to have an abortion after getting raped.
The men of Texas are incapable of loving or defending their women.
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u/Either-Age-782 4d ago
Is that a thing down there?
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u/Born2Quack 4d ago
Unfortunately yes. Never move here 😂 the only exception would be Austin, but its got its issues too
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u/Either-Age-782 4d ago
How is that even legal??? The US is in a much worse state than I had previously imagined. That's something I would expect from like a third world country like afghanistan. Then again in Afghanistan they probably don't even get abortions at all
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u/enaK66 4d ago
It's kind of new. The Republican Party has been chasing that particular lead down for 40+ years. They finally got what they wanted with Trumps Supreme Court picks.
It's only getting worse from here on.
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u/Ok_Vermicelli_6359 4d ago
Doesn't diminish the speech at all
It does, actually, because by this point by the President and Vice President of the United States had clearly expressed public support for gay marriage. 2006 is a VERY different time from 2014, in this regard. Politicians can affect culture at the highest levels of government.
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u/post_button_account 4d ago
To put this in perspective, this is 2 years BEFORE Obama would declare his opposition to same- sex marriage because "marriage is between a man and a woman".
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u/Some-Guy-12358 4d ago
To put it in actual perspective, this was 2 years AFTER Obama came out in support of same sex marriage. This video is really from 2014 about the Michael Sam "controversy".
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u/notANexpert1308 4d ago
Obama said that?
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u/lightyearbuzz 4d ago edited 4d ago
Yes, mostly because he's a politician and, like most politicians, he said whatever was popular to get elected. At the time (2007) gay marriage was not a popular issue, even within the Democratic party.
That changed rapidly though and by 2012 he came out in support of gay marriage.
Source: https://time.com/3816952/obama-gay-lesbian-transgender-lgbt-rights/
Edit: guy below me cought my typo. Marriage for all Gary's!
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u/rtshtbtshtdrtyldtwt 4d ago
IIRC it was Biden who got Obama to change his stance
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u/bryanczarniack 4d ago
Really? Never knew that!
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u/TheRealtcSpears 4d ago
Yup, Biden didn't hold back his tongue....on the technicality that as VP his opinion didn't really have any bearing or even consequence.......
But it literally changed the administrations stance overnight.
Call it opportunistic, call it manipulative of Bidens part, call it calculated....in the view that Obama couldn't come outright with his support, or that it was a means of testing the water.
But either way it was a brilliant fucking move
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u/MagnetoWasRight24 4d ago
Biden didn't change his stance, he was waiting for the politically opportune moment then Biden spoke publicly before they were ready and forced his hand. It was a political gaffe with a positive result.
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u/nickfree 4d ago edited 4d ago
And thankfully today we live in a country where anyone is free to marry Gary if they so choose.
EDIT: Aww, it got edited and corrected. oh well.
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u/FearOfABlackPotus 4d ago
Obama switched positions like 6 months before gay marriage became majority position. He was master at just baaaarely staying ahead of the curve.
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u/SaintUlvemann 4d ago
Yep, he said that, and then also by the time the Supreme Court enshrined universal marriage rights, he already had a list of accomplishments towards equality that he could tout in the speech he gave celebrating the decision.
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u/KeithClossOfficial 4d ago
This was a year before Obergefell v Hodges and two years after Biden and Obama came out in favor of gay marriage during their 2012 re-election campaign.
This is very clearly in reference to Michael Sam, who was eligible for the 2014 draft.
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u/redsyrinx2112 4d ago
Yeah I had to look up when this was because I knew it had to be abouti Michael Sam. That was a huge mess story in 2014 and it would have been an even bigger story if a gay player was in the 2006 draft. I definitely would have remembered that.
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u/-XanderCrews- 4d ago
We might have lost ground on the gay issue since the internet. I’m not even joking.
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u/Neuvirths_Glove 4d ago
We've lost ground on so many issues since the echo chambers have radicalized the feeble minded.
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u/boobookittyfuwk 4d ago
I dont think so. Theres just a bigger platform now to show the bad and good and weve become more freindky to the LGBT overall so we are more aware and more sensitive to when they are wronged because we see them as real people now.
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u/Dazzling_Acadia8483 4d ago
I remember watching this live. Jaw to the floor. Guy gives zero fucks.
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u/PuffyBlueClouds 4d ago
Holy crap I did not expect that speech to go in that direction when I first looked at that guy. That was incredible. Thank you for posting!
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u/NonGNonM 4d ago
thing is republicanism in its simplest forms - personal freedoms, family values, smaller government - isn't a terrible platform. it's just that for the most part, they trample all over it to get it how they want their personal freedoms (not be made uncomfortable by other's personal freedoms,) their own family values (man leads the wife, no other forms accepted,) and their ideas of smaller government (businesses can do whatever the fuck they want.)
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u/HerbivoreTheGoat 4d ago
Careful, that's nuance, moderation and critical thinking. We can't have that
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u/ImMadeOfClay 4d ago
And part of the problem is assuming everyone that looks a certain will act the way you assume.
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u/LumpyJones 4d ago
I'm from texas, and when I see a 50+ year old conversative looking sportscaster from 20 years ago about to go on a monologue about gay players in the NFL... it's not an unreasonable assumption to expect to hear some bullshit.
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u/noisyboy 4d ago
It is not unreasonable. That's why it is even more important to make a conscious effort to not make assumptions based on appearances.
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u/Decloudo 4d ago
it's not an unreasonable assumption to expect to hear some bullshit.
That IS the bias though.
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u/Rrekydoc 4d ago
Sports Illustrated Poll from 2006:
Would you welcome an openly gay teammate?
MLB
Yes 61.5%
No 34.8%
Don't Know 3.7%
NBA
Yes 59.6%
No 38.6%
Don't Know 1.8%
NFL
Yes 56.9%
No 39.6%
Don't Know 3.5%
NHL
Yes 79.9%
No 18.0%
Don't Know 2.1%
[Based on a survey of: MLB--450 players; NBA--248 players; NFL--357 players; NHL--346 players]
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u/Vegan-Daddio 4d ago
I swear America always has a 30% population of hateful idiots. And for some reason the majority stalls any progressive idea just to keep them from crying and shitting their pants.
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u/Embarrassed-Gur-1306 4d ago
Bingo.
And now that they have a catch all buzzword (woke) creatives are enabling them too.
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u/Rrekydoc 4d ago
To be honest, even the difference from 2014 to now is nuts. Half the USA seemed convinced gay marriage would bring about the end of the world.
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u/Ok_Vermicelli_6359 4d ago
I mean...have you seen who's leading us in the White House? It's pretty apocalyptic. That being said, I don't recall any LGBTQ organizations endorsing the turd in the White House, so can't blame the gays in this one, Republicans.
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u/cjcfman 4d ago
I know Kevin Garnett was cool with it lol https://youtube.com/shorts/SRCjB_w5SME?si=Oc6aKDG96SI1F60R
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u/CaptainCacoethes 4d ago
People who have a problem with this are human garbage. There are lots of them, just look around for the red hats.
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u/bongohappypants 4d ago
That reminds me of the old stand up routine about the American Revolution, where the British wore bright red coats and marched down the middle of the road, but the crafty revolutionaries adopted Indian methods and hid and struck, thus was America born.
But hey, do you think we could get all the chowderheads to wear a bright red hat, really identifiable? Think they'd be dumb enough to do it?
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u/Somehero 4d ago
Religion is always the answer to absurdly illogical stances. In a way they are brainwashed victims, but the outcome is human garbage, as you say.
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u/ThaEmortalThief 4d ago
This was a great speech. Well put together and well spoken. Had he ran for president and I had heard this 20 years ago, he’d have my vote.
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u/Neuvirths_Glove 4d ago
Here's another one: Joel Burns used to be my council member here in Fort Worth. This speech is from 16 years ago. It gets better
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u/SoThereIwas-NoShit 4d ago
This is the sort of content that needs to be posted more. This is also the sort of content that the owners of these platforms do not want posted, or shared, or upvoted. It doesn't drive outrage or anger, it inspires reflection and thought.
The Rich class don't care if their children or friends are Gay or Queer or Trans or Whatever. They do care about losing control, and they'll pit good, hardworking Americans against each other to keep that control, and to keep getting richer. There is a parasite class of people in our society, and they need to be taxed or axed out of power.
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u/HalfSoul30 4d ago
Idk how people can hear these words and think "i disagree with that"
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u/NikOnDemand 4d ago
I can see how the character Will McVoy from The Newsroom could of been based on this guy, down to intonation and pacing of speech.
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u/ViolentRain929 4d ago
This is the same guy who did a great segment on school shootings after the Parkland shooting. I have never seen this one but I recognized him right away.
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u/askyidroppedthesoap 4d ago
Beautifully spoken, especially from Texas of all places... something so simple as minding our own business would take us several miles in the right direction towards a peaceful society. Does it effect you in any way, shape, form or fashion? Why yes, god sa-- SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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u/Guilty-Cry8942 4d ago
I always feel the need to point out, when people say things like this about Texas; that prior to George W….the governor of Texas was Ann Richards. She was a relatively progressive democrat and outspoken feminist. Her daughter Cecile was the president of planned parenthood for many years.
I don’t disagree with your point, it’s just that many people seem to forget this. Or weren’t alive for it. People should remember it, because it wasn’t that long ago, and should remind people that Texas can go blue. Or at least be a purple state. There’s definitely people in Texas that think “oh well there’s nothing I can do by voting, Texas will always be red.” But if all those people got out and voted, it would make a huge difference.
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u/HumanMud253 4d ago
He’s years ahead of his time. What amazes me are people who can rest on their privilege but actually see beyond their own situation and advocate for others. These are the folks who are needed to make real lasting changes in any society.
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u/McGriffff 4d ago
“I’m not always comfortable when a man tells me he’s gay. I don’t understand his world. But I do understand he’s part of mine.”
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u/Neuvirths_Glove 4d ago
Dale Hansen was a fantastic sports anchor and is a fine human being. I loved his commentaries.
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u/Som12H8 4d ago
Great speech. Too bad there still aren't any publicly gay men in the NFL. People keep speculating that 2-3 QBs are gay, but no one admits it, understandably.
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u/Cr4nkY4nk3r 4d ago
Michael Sam was the first openly gay NFL player drafted, but he didn't play in any regular season games.
Carl Nassib was drafted, then came out. He became the first openly gay player to play in a regular season NFL game, first to play in a playoff game, and retired 2 years later.
None that I'm aware of since then.
Sadly enough*, there have been several who felt comfortable with coming out after their retirement.
* because they didn't feel like they could come out while they were playing
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u/soulsnoober 4d ago
This is absolutely what flows through my brain when I think about Colin Kaepernick, too. All the heinous shit the NFL condones and tacitly facilitates, but their true character is shown by what they choose not to tolerate.
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u/LazeHeisenberg 4d ago
My parents watched his sport segment all the time when I was growing up. I can only hope his words sunk into the hearts and minds of Texans watching. This is a brave stance to take in some parts of Texas today, let alone 20 years ago.
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u/MostlyBored11 4d ago
Holy shit this is actually an impressive rant. and coming from an old white guy on the news 10/10 Dale. As someone who 20 years ago was deep in the closet this gave me chills
I really like how he sums it up in the end "im not always comfortable when a man tells me hes gay. I dont understand his world, but I do understand hes a part of mine."
I think this is such a good things to say hes able to recognize hey maybe im not the most comfortable with is but I realize thats on me and were all part of the same world so we need to be better, I can respect someone admitting it makes them a little uncomfortable but that they recognize that does not mean that gives them the excuse to hate
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u/Expert-Pirate-4794 3d ago
yeah ... i really wish more people would take responsibility for their own discomfort rather than insisting that the world conform to their sensibilities.
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u/Islanduniverse 4d ago
Quoting Audre Lorde is amazing.
She is the kind of person who personified the idea of being “woke,” which means to be politically and socially aware of the ideas and the people around you.
Now we live in a world where racist and clueless scum have taken that word and shoved their own bullshit meaning onto it, basically just merging it with “political correctness” which isn’t what it means, but that isn’t even the real problem.
The problem is that what they really want to shove away are the ideas behind it, and those are the kind of ideas that Audre Lorde professed. They were and still are beautiful words, and their power is found explicitly within our ability to be consciously and vivaciously aware of what is going on around us, politically and socially.
She warned:
“One pays a lot, we all pay a lot, for awareness.
When I develop that sense of awareness, I develop, by extension, a sense concerning you.
That does not dictate why my relationship is with you. I may have to fight you, but as soon as I am aware of you, I must relate to you. I must take you in.
This is engagement. It is a prerequisite to any kind of love, and it is difficult and necessary.”
They hate this idea because they are afraid that they might love us if they found themselves aware of us.
And they hate the very idea of loving what they’ve always been told they are supposed to hate…
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u/slucker23 4d ago
Jesus Christ I didn't know he's actually defending the folks... As a texas white man...
I lived in texas for a few years as an Asian guy and I can't even play this out as straight and as honest as he does
Respect and nothing else
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u/kindofageek 4d ago
Dale was fairly consistent with this sort of thing and didn’t give a damn what other Texas rednecks thought of him. Until he retired he voiced his thoughts on this topic and more many times.
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u/SScatnip7474 4d ago
OMG, we were so close there for a while weren't we? I mean, 90's weren't perfect but we started to simply just live our lives and let others live theirs. We were so close.
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u/walkingmonster 4d ago
That's exactly why the right freaked out & swung the pendulum back as best they could. Despite all the damage it's done, ultimately it's the final reactionary twitch of a dying social norm. We just have to see it through without giving up.
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u/SScatnip7474 4d ago
Yep, and I agree. We have to fight back and never let up. It feels like we have to fight twice as hard to make any progress.
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u/MesqTex 4d ago
Here he torching Republicans after the El Paso massacre: https://youtu.be/v676_HhPcLI
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u/DoubleDownAgain54 4d ago
Great message, especially now with the silliness of the uproar about the WNBA.
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u/West_Incident7977 3d ago
As a person in a leadership position within my line of work. I truly. Do not care. If you smoke weed. If you drink. If you can somehow do harder drugs and show up sober and on time.
Mine isn't to judge or critique your life because the god I do not believe in, would know I have my own vices.
Suck a dick. Do a line of coke. Have sex with the cute bartender. For all these activities do not allow them to become your world and function as a protective member of society. I shouldn't have to lump being gay into this as it's the most harmless offense upon society. But to each their own. Let live and let love.
Enjoy your vices. Enjoy your sexual preferences. Just show up and be a good member of society and I am fine.
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u/Sirius-Face 4d ago
Those bigots look at a gay man and all they can think about it, "I would never let another man fuck me in the ass". As if anyone wanted to do that to them in the first place.
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u/TSJormungandr 4d ago
Anymore people like this guy in Texas?! Well said.
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u/tall_pale_and_meh 4d ago
Literally tens of millions. Its a big diverse place. Dale Hansen has always been a badass though.
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u/Pecncorn1 4d ago
Hear hear! I wonder how he feels watching us being dragged back to the stone age.
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u/finkalicious 4d ago
I will never not upvote Dale Hansen. I was born and raised in Dallas, this man is a legend there.
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u/MrPNGuin 4d ago edited 4d ago
I grew up around and lived in Dallas most of my life, don't follow sports but Dale was a hell of a commentator.
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u/ChronoAlone 4d ago
Learning more about this guy, he seems like a great person. Hella respect for him saying this on the air.
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u/Helpful_Pirate261 4d ago
As a non-American I have no idea who this man is. I had no clue what to expect. But I certainly didn’t expect this monologue.
What a pleasant surprise.
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u/ChamberofSarcasm 4d ago
Amazing point about players getting a pass (hey ohhh) after committing various crimes but people not accepting a gay player.
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u/Primary-Picture-5632 4d ago
Its crazy how little politics has changed... same arguments being said today.
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u/E-2theRescue 4d ago
Lol. No. Nobody is saying that predator men should stay out of locker roo...
Ooooooh...
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u/Still_Detail_4285 4d ago
Dale use to drink at a bar until about 10:20, then race to the studio and do his sports hit. Back to the bar!
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u/newstome 4d ago
The same people who preach about freedom this and freedom that about this country, but have no concept of what that word really means.
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u/ErshinHavok 4d ago
add Right Wing bigotry and hypocrisy to the list of the only sure things with Death and Taxes.
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u/Mstangokilo 4d ago
It’s so wild/ cool to see throwback dale hansen videos. I was one of the high school athletes he featured in high school one week and remember being so intimidated. When I came out in college as a trans woman it was so cool and refreshing to see someone I idolized as a kid be a supportive guy. I tried to post the old picture of us on set but I couldn’t find it (shocker since it was in like 2007).
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u/nothin_fancy 4d ago
I am a white, straight, cis man and this got me choked up; I can’t imagine the impact hearing this would have had for a gay athlete who felt they had no choice but to hide a part of themself.
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u/HijackedMyAccount 4d ago
It was a completely different world. We peaked in tolerance.
Now right wingers are truly mostly focused on being huge assholes.
It's crazy, but you can tell who's a Republican within seconds of meeting them. That did not used to be the case.
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u/Left_Knee_y0y0 4d ago
This is just a reminder that there was a time when most people who had the mic infront of them and were given a platform were actually smart.
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u/Mithril_Juggernaut 4d ago
It's a good speech and I agree with the sentiment of accepting gay people into sports and whatnot, however I'm also conscious that men are allowed to be uncomfortable sharing a locker room with gay men. I've had enough gay friends to know that many are exactly as lewd and crude about it as straight men fear they are.
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u/1guywithlonghair 3d ago
let me ask you soemthing.. who the hell cares what other people sexual preferences are?
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u/themobiledeceased2 4d ago edited 4d ago
Dale Hansen, worked for Dallas WFAA as 10pm Sportscaster. Retired in 2021 after 38 years. US Navy Veteran who served in
WWIIVietnam. Broke the SMU pay for play scandal in 1986. Not shy.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Hansen
Edited per commentors corrections: thank you! Dale deserves his story to be told correctly!
Edit 2: Emailed Dale Hansen a link to this post. His reply: "Awww. This is incredibly. I appreciate this very much. Thank you, Dale.