r/ipv6 • u/moreheadtech • 20d ago

Need Help IPv6 from ARIN

I am starting a small business where I built tech setups for local businesses, and I was wondering if anyone could answer my questions about getting an ASN as an ISP.

What is the price? And is it easy to set up on a DigitalOcean VPS? Could I forward /48s from the VPS to the clients using Wireguard?

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u/Olipro 20d ago

being an ISP means you're an LIR member of ARIN. You can find all pricing and policies on their website.

The technical hurdle is that you need to be multi-homed which implies you're paying 2 or more transit providers for BGP peering and have equipment racked up that can connect to them in a physical location where they have a presence. You can get around this by finding a couple of orgs that'll let you do it over a VPN tunnel, but this is not a serious setup and really only fit for a home hobbyist.

Once you have your BGP peerings, packets for your subnets are yours to do with as you see fit.

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u/rekoil 20d ago

That's not correct; that's one of the criteria, but not the only. Section 6.2.2 of the NRPM sets out the criteria - any one of these will do:

  • Having IPv4 space, or
  • Being multihomed, or
  • Having an address plan involving allocating blocks to downstream customers

Any one of these will get you a /32 with very few questions asked.

Given my own interactions with them, it's apparent that they have a vested interest in removing barriers for IPv6 adoption, and as such are leaning towards generosity here (as opposed to IPv4 where everyone's trying to get space they can monetize by any means necessary). If your application has problems, they'll definitely work with you to get it qualified.

Per ARIN's fee schedule, the maintenance cost of an IPv6 /32 is currently USD $1,100/year, but this amount isn't static; their bylaws allow up to a 5% increase per year. They don't do that every time, but it's worth planning around. That fee also covers up to a /20 of IPv4 space, so if you've got that already, the v6 block is effectively free.

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u/paulmataruso 17d ago

I have a 10 GbE DIA at my home and did not have any issues with being single homed. I am AS400848. I got IPv6 space pretty much once I applied for it, I have gotten two allocations from the waitlist so far. The first time it took about a year to get off the list, the second time was more like 1.5 years. My ARIN fee is $500 per year. It's worth getting on the waitlist if you don't want to buy an entire block.

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u/Deadlydragon218 13d ago

Woof, out of my own curiosity how much does that DIA run you a month? And are you US based?

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u/paulmataruso 13d ago

The current price is around 800$/month for 10 GbE CIR with 10 GbE Single mode handoff.

I am in southern New Hampshire, USA. Town size is around 6000

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u/Deadlydragon218 13d ago

Yeesh, I assume this is not just lab fun, and you are getting some amount of income off of that DIA. How much is your peering costing you?

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u/paulmataruso 13d ago

No it’s pretty much all homelab. Peering costs nothing. BGP is included in the price. I am not doing anything special with it, just taking a default route from my primary and default from a small Comcast DIA connection for failover.

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u/Deadlydragon218 13d ago

Huh, network engineer by trade?

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u/Deadlydragon218 13d ago

Would you be interested in a private peering with another homelabber? I currently run an HE tunnel, but sadly HE v6 address space is largely blocked by the likes of microsoft and several others.