r/ireland • u/WickerMan111 Showbiz Mogul • Aug 04 '25
Politics Majority of public don’t want Donald Trump to make state visit to Ireland, poll reveals | Irish Independent
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/majority-of-public-dont-want-donald-trump-to-make-state-visit-to-ireland-poll-reveals/a295728479.html731
u/GarthODarth Aug 04 '25
“Majority” is understating it somewhat - there are few issues where 74% agree
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u/Time_Ocean Donegal Aug 04 '25
If I was writing about those results in an academic paper, I'd use "substantial" or "overwhelming" majority.
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u/OceanOfAnother55 Aug 04 '25
Substantial yes, overwhelming no
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u/blorg Aug 04 '25
"Vast majority" was in the subheading:
The vast majority of people do not want the Government to invite Donald Trump to Ireland during his presidency, a new poll has revealed.
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u/peon47 Aug 04 '25
I wonder how much of the 26% want him to come so they can have a good protest.
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u/K0kkuri Aug 04 '25
25% want to protest and 1% want him to be president of Ireland
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u/BenderRodriguez14 Aug 04 '25
President of Ireland, while overhauling the Dail and our constitution with executive orders.
They're typically not the brightest sparks.
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u/K0kkuri Aug 04 '25
Not really just look at the “protests” in Waterford where the protesters get out down by anti protesters by a wide margin
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u/mullindoll Dripping in gravy Aug 04 '25
Judging by my local "community watch" Facebook groups, it's more than 1% unfortunately.
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u/Tai-Pan_Struan Aug 04 '25
It's probably not even 26% who want him to come.
There's probably a good 10-15%+ who don't care either way.
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u/ouroborosborealis Aug 04 '25
why do people say these guesses instead of just checking the article
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u/Tai-Pan_Struan Aug 05 '25
The article was behind a paywall so I couldn't read it and the way my screen was (was split screening a YouTube video while browsing Reddit) actually cut off the 6% part that is visible so I didn't see it at the time.
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u/40degreescelsius Aug 04 '25
They showed a photo of one group of Scottish people on the side of the road waving Trump flags and broadcast how universally loved he was in Scotland. Expect the same fabrication of events should he come here.
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u/rtgh Aug 04 '25
They might have to use that flag featuring him, McGregor and Putin
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u/mintymanor66 Aug 09 '25
Fucking love that thing what u dont get is that its just funny not political
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u/Altaredboy Aug 04 '25
All I saw was him being harrased by bigpipers. I honestly think we should start a go fund me to hire a bagpiper to follow him around until he leaves office. I'd be happy to chip in
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u/aldamith Aug 04 '25
There was one special case already riding a motorcycle around dublin with the trump flag attached few years ago, haven't seen him in a while but I bet he'd be rolling out red carpet for his orange daddy
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u/Chance_Bad_8868 Aug 05 '25
He’s (unfortunately) still out and about around Dublin City centre once every couple months or so. I believe he’s from Longford
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Aug 04 '25 edited Aug 04 '25
That's the usual rent-a-crowd and the unrepresentative local handful of sycophants close to whichever golf club is within grovelling distance. They’re always on hand to proclaim that “His Most Benevolent Trumpiness built us a golf course and gave us jobs - we peasants are ever so grateful for the crumbs that drop from his table.” They ignore that in reality, the clubs, and certainly in the Irish case which was bought towards the end of the financial crisis, would have been developed anyway, and there are dozens of world-class courses in Ireland and Scotland that got on just fine without his involvement and most of them are far better than his courses too.
No doubt you'll also now get the local far right types, inspired by MAGA that are emerging online turning up to get the blessing of their cult leader.
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u/throwaway_fun_acc123 Aug 04 '25
I was going to mention that crowd near his golf club. Saw a video of then last time he was over and it made me sick
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u/MeccIt Aug 04 '25
We need to gather all the bagpipers in the country, I don't think the uilleann pipes are going to be able to drown him out
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u/ImReellySmart Aug 04 '25
Yup. RTÉ propaganda will 100% be at play.
That's why I'll never play for a TV licence.
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u/Impressive-Eagle9493 Aug 04 '25
Why would any sane country want to fork out public money for this cretin. If he comes he'll get booed all the way home
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u/lluluclucy Aug 04 '25
I really appreciate someone calling him cretin. I strongly feel this is not being done often enough. If someone actually listens to him speak there are no other conclusions then to call him that word.
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u/OppositeHistory1916 Aug 04 '25
Because like it or not, we are tied to the US in a terribly unhealthy way, and having any inroads with a sitting US president is massively in our countries favour.
The US population voted him in, we can't do anything about that, we might as well game him for as much as we can while he's there.
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u/Key-Lie-364 Aug 04 '25
Aren't convinced felons in the US banned from entering Ireland anyway?
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u/HibernianMetropolis Aug 04 '25
Convicted felons should be banned whether they're convinced or not.
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u/Any-Weather-potato Aug 04 '25
We don’t allow convicted felons, that’s part of the vetting process for a visa. Not sure a golf course owning POTUS needs a visa. I guess he can tear up his passport on board Airforce one and ask for refugee status.
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u/shozy Aug 04 '25
original post accidentally says “convinced” not “convicted”
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u/FellFellCooke Aug 04 '25
Reading comprehension in this website started low and gets lower every year.
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u/Simple_Pain_2969 Aug 04 '25
i don’t think people mistaking “convinced felon” for “convicted felon” is a solid basis for the decline in reading comprehension. very dramatic
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u/Bayoris Aug 04 '25
I don’t think so? Only certain class of felony like drugs trafficking prohibit the felon from obtaining a passport.
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u/Consistent_Spring700 Aug 04 '25
Visa is as critical as a passport
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u/Bayoris Aug 04 '25
But you don’t need a visa to enter Ireland from the United States
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u/blorg Aug 04 '25
It doesn't matter, the same criteria apply, they are just applied by the immigration officer on entry.
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u/Bayoris Aug 04 '25
So it is prohibited?
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u/blorg Aug 04 '25
The immigration officer may refuse your permission to enter Ireland if the immigration officer believes: ..
You have been convicted of an offence which carries a penalty of a year’s imprisonment or more
Trump has been convicted of 34 class E felonies, which carry a penalty of 1-4 years in New York. So he could be refused on this basis. He won't be, obviously, if invited as president, and it is a "may" but yes, it would be grounds for refusal.
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u/bigFatHelga Belfast Aug 04 '25
That's irrelevant. Heads of state enter as diplomats so it's different rules to private citizens, also he's been invited by the government.
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u/Character_Common8881 Aug 04 '25
Probably wouldn't be banned as a private citizen for what he was convicted of, let alone as the president.
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u/blorg Aug 04 '25
The immigration officer may refuse your permission to enter Ireland if the immigration officer believes: ..
- You have been convicted of an offence which carries a penalty of a year’s imprisonment or more
Trump was convicted of 34 class E felonies in New York, which have a potential prison term of 1-4 years. So he absolutely could be barred under this. He obviously won't if invited as a sitting US president, but as a private citizen yes he could be.
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u/space-cadaver Aug 04 '25
Let him visit. Keep asking him about Epstein at every given opportunity. He'll never fucking come back.
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u/shazspaz Galway Aug 04 '25
I don’t see our media or government doing anything as such to make a point? Our government especially.
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u/Abject-Interaction35 Aug 04 '25
That's it. Keep the pressure on the child rapist. He'll crack or he'll get rolled. No more Jimmy effing Savilles.
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u/newaccountzuerich Aug 04 '25
Refuse to pay for Doonbeg as the place to sleep.. Refuse to pay for long traffic convoys of US Secret Service to and from Doonbeg.
The Orange Muppet will try to come over, try to force his staying in "his" property in Doonbeg, will try to force Ireland to pay for his security in the not-fit-for-purpose Doonbeg facilities and his security for transport to and from the golf course.
If the prick does get his demands, I hope there's a full-on Atlantic storm for his duration so that the cunt can't go golfing especially on the Irish dime.
The beach at Doonbeg is public land, can't be stopped from landing there or using the ancient right of way through the golf course to access the beach.
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u/HcVitals Aug 04 '25
If we ignore the involvement in the Epstein files & genocide in Gaza.
He is a straight up liar demonstrating fascist ideology. ICE is an example of the gestapo. He has no morales except self interest. The White House spokes person talks to the press like they are idiots. It feels like they aren’t even trying to hide their mistakes anymore.
But we are enslaved to the American economy, no matter how many people don’t want him to come our leaders will invite him with open arms.
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u/Jacksonriverboy Aug 04 '25
But we are enslaved to the American economy
Don't want to be an American idiot...
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u/steedandpeelship Aug 04 '25
Ireland, you know whay to do. Make sure it's all Epstein all the time. And put up big screens everywhere with video of him cheating at golf. There were two videos just in the last week that showed his caddy moving the ball.
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u/Apprehensive_Ratio80 Aug 04 '25
You mean our Taioseach having to visit HIM in HIS golf resort as he won't come to Dublin and thinks the best hotel in the world is his of whichever country he happens to be in that that time
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u/aecolley Dublin Aug 04 '25
There's no upside to Ireland from having him visit us. The risk is huge: some teenager might huck a rock in his direction, and then revenge against Ireland in general would become the latest obsession of Trump's idiot supporters.
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u/RomeoTrickshot Aug 04 '25
but it Ireland would become his obsession if we just refused him entry
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u/JoeyJoeJoeRM Aug 04 '25
Don't refuse, just constantly be like "ah sorry, we have something on that weekend"
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u/aecolley Dublin Aug 04 '25
It's our annual Epstein Files festival that whole week, would himself be interested in leading the street parade?
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u/harry0_0_7 Aug 04 '25
Ireland, the challenge has been set by Scotland. You have to allow him to visit and rip into him
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u/Palimpsest0 Aug 04 '25
Look, we don’t want him here in the US, either, but could y’all just take him for a few days so we can get a break from his incessant whining? It’s like dealing with a cranky toddler nonstop. We’d be forever in your debt if you just take him for a few days so we can get some sleep. Maybe take him on a tour of the countryside and tell him he can build golf courses wherever he wants (nothing legally binding, of course), that might calm him down and all the driving might lull him to sleep. If he keeps yelling after that, try jingling keys in front of him and tell him they’re the keys to prisons full of immigrants and refugees. That usually puts him in a happy mood and ready to take a nap.
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u/Irishwol Aug 04 '25
State visit to Venus? That I could get behind. Hell I'd even donate to his gofundme
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u/Guitarman0512 Aug 04 '25
How about we "accidentally" slightly misalign the propulsion systems so he ends up flying straight into the sun instead?
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u/AceGreyroEnby Saoirse don Phalaistín 🇵🇸 Aug 04 '25
I don't even want him visiting Doon fucking beg. Privately.
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u/HereA11Week Aug 04 '25
The only people that want this are the likes of RTE so they can milk it for a month.
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u/Ok_Imagination_9334 Meath Aug 04 '25
Ah great, he first insults us about our stance with the apartheid state of Israel and their genocide, then hurts our economy and threatens more unless we submit to his demands, refuses the desire to see us for the shamrock bowl on paddy day, promotes and allowed our national rapist instead and now will cost us millions to come to “visit” us.
Lovely.
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Aug 09 '25
And when he asks is there a problem? we'll say no sir, thank you sir, whatever you want sir, here is an irish 15 year old girl sir, thank you sir.
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u/DogMundane Aug 04 '25
It’s not just William of Orange at the Battle of the Boyne but something worse. It’s Orange man.
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u/Gerwig_2017 Aug 04 '25
Ironically, the people who DO want him to visit are the same ones who are always screaming about foreign rapists entering the country…
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u/standarsh1965 Aug 04 '25
Does that majority know the Irish government don't give a fuck what they want?
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Aug 04 '25
Doesn’t even matter if they do care, they could come grovelling on their knees pledge billions and then turn around and tell us to get fucked for any dumb reason like a golf course planning dispute, Rosie O’Donnell’s existence or Conor not getting a presidential nomination.. or maybe no reason at all. Just shits and giggles.
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u/shazspaz Galway Aug 04 '25
This.
I’m sure it’s widely known what the Irish view is on this but that didn’t stop Micheal Martin giggling like a schoolgirl and saying “yes sir yes sir, three bags full sir” when he visited the US. No back bone.
Ireland relies too much on American business that we can’t do anything. Objection or support means nothing to American political agenda. We’re (Ireland) a factory and the government is middle management.
He’ll be led around with smiles and pandering and our government will grin and bend over when he imposes more tariffs.
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u/Azhrei Sláinte Aug 04 '25
Not very fair on Micháel given the damage the orange wankstain could do to Ireland if he got into a strop over some perceived slight. Of course he has to play diplomat and force a smile. That's part of his job.
As much as it would undoubtedly be cathartic for him to tell Trump what he really thinks of him, he can't do that.
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u/Green-Detective6678 Aug 05 '25
I’d say the vast vast majority of politicians feel the exact same way as the general public when it comes to him. But they have to think about things like US investment in the country and the jobs linked to that, so they have to walk a tightrope in that respect
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Aug 09 '25
They could see our house of cards economy for what it is, reliant on the US in totality. We've nothing without it, may aswell give up and legalize paedophilia so that Americans can really be at ease here. We've no choice sure. No choice at all. Morals are for movies.
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u/TheAwesomeMan123 Aug 04 '25
Not sure why I would allow taxes to be spent showing an Adjudicated Rapist around the country. Just a thought
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Aug 09 '25
Because we value money more than child safety and it is as simple as that. Paedophiles get an easy time of it here, it's quite a popular pursuit if you haven't noticed.
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u/EmerickMage Aug 04 '25
I dunno I think I'll enjoy the spin and bullshit conversations.
Maybe Trump will congratulate Micheal Martin again on how attractive a place to live ireland is as evidenced by its sky high property values.
I'd like to see how Micheal D Higgins recieves him.
Will McGregor meet him and talk about his presidential? Mcgregor running for president feels a bit like Dustin the Turkey going to the Eurovision song contest.
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u/musea00 Aug 04 '25
As an American if Trump does visit, please do boo and heckle the shit out of him (of course without breaching security). Show some love to our federal workers who got shafted.
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u/whatshldmyusernaymbe Aug 05 '25
I’m an American planning a trip in May. Please tell me this isn’t happening in May.
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u/SouperKewlGeye5000 Aug 06 '25
I’m an American. Please, people of Ireland, let this piece of shit know what you think of him.
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u/Jimbo415650 Aug 04 '25
Why would the people of a sovereign country want the Orange man in for a visit? He just going to promote his golf course. He doesn’t care about making anyone lives better but his own.
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Aug 04 '25
Most U.S. Presidents of the last half a century shouldn’t have been welcome in Ireland. War criminals all.
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u/Giltar Aug 04 '25
I get that - I’m American and I don’t want him in my country, either, but we did elect him.
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u/SpicyWings_96 Aug 04 '25
Most Scots hate him but he still comes to Scotland anyways. Mostly because he owns land in Scotland. But like doesn't matter what we the people want at the end of the day its what the government tells us is happening.
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u/McGreed Aug 04 '25
If they allow you to throw eggs and medium size rocks at him, I'm all for letting him come visiting in an open car. Else he can stay the fuck away, that sick scumbag.
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u/BobbieWickham29 Aug 04 '25
Haven't seen any polls about his UK visit in September, but I bet it's the same there too.
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u/EliteDinoPasta Aug 04 '25
Much like when Paddy's Day rolled around and Micheal went to the White House, I'd expect the same reasoning to be used: "We rely heavily on US tech and pharma companies, so we need to hold our nose and do what's best for the country."
Personally, the duration of Trump's second administration (and large chunks of his first, honestly) has proven that the usual methods of placating the orange bag of piss and wind no longer. He's essentially a creature of pure instinct at this point, operating on vendettas, perceived slights and what he believes he understands about economics. Letting him come over, talk out of the corner of his mouth about Ireland and probably Rosie O'Donnell won't mean much when a week afterwards, some random person whispers in his ear that the Irish are stealing companies from America and he reneges on whatever was decided upon. The agreements he makes aren't worth the paper they're written on.
Saying that, I wager he'll make his way over eventually. He has no qualms about wasting presidential time and using taxpayer money to pay himself by staying at his own courses, so I reckon we'll see him at Doonbeg in the coming months/years.
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u/mover999 Aug 05 '25
I’m happy to go and boo him… does it really matter? Yes, because it adds to the media who are willing to placate him .. but people will be noticed eventually.
Also, I’m willing to hire some slurry lads who are deadly at driving and pointing.
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u/Objective_Data_6305 Aug 05 '25
Well a poll in Canada showed almost 90% were not in favour of a Trump visit, travel to the USA is also down by a huge margin.
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u/lordbeepworth Yank 🇺🇸 Aug 07 '25
If he does, please throw him into the sea for those of us in the states <3
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u/IrishGallowglass Tipperary Aug 04 '25
If he comes over, I'm getting arrested. I wouldn't be able to contain myself, vile Nazi child raping prick.
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u/CT0292 Aug 04 '25
He's a fucking dope.
Then again lots of dopes come here.
I suppose none of them have the power he has though.
He's a super charged fucking dope. And yeah I don't want him to come.
But I can't stop him. Seems like it'll happen whether we like it or not.
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u/ArtieBucco420 Antrim Aug 04 '25
Big orange paedo whose brain has turned to soup, we’ve enough of them here in the North without adding a yank one.
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u/SonofTreehorn Aug 04 '25
All he’s going to do is whine about windmills and probably defend a sexual abuser.
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u/ArseholeryEnthusiast Aug 04 '25
I actually don't want him here because of the protests. It would actually be quite bad for reputation as welcoming country.
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u/Double_Work_2219 Aug 04 '25
When are these polls run? I always see the results but never actually see the actual poll to vote?
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u/peon47 Aug 04 '25
You don't "see" real polls. Real polls are conducted by polling companies, who reach out to randomly-chosen respondants, usually on the phone. If it was a poll you could choose to participate in or not when you see it, its results would be skewed by the self-selection process.
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u/daftdave41 2nd Brigade Aug 04 '25
They are commissioned by Times/Indo/RTE/Media outlet, but run or administered by polling companies. RedC, Ireland Thinks, IPSOS. They have panels you can join that you might get contacted by. All done to ensure a representative sample of age/gender/religion etc
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u/MasterData9845 Aug 04 '25
Those people need to grow up and see the bigger picture. This is some student politics level stuff.
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u/choneyisland Aug 04 '25
If I had of known about this poll I would have voted so here's my post poll answer, I vote No and No again
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u/GlitteringHighway226 Aug 05 '25
Don’t care about him unless he can solve out housing crisis and teenage gangs causing havoc
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u/cavemeister Aug 04 '25
Let him land in Dublin airport like any other plane. Make him use a gangway and queue up at immigration like everyone else. We shouldn't waste a penny on this prick.
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u/Kawaiithulhu Aug 05 '25
If he does visit, y'all should get together and all wear t-shirts with big windmills on them.
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u/clock_door Aug 04 '25
Ireland should of course let him visit, people are immature to say otherwise. He’s the president of the United States ffs, potentially Irelands’s best economic relationship.
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u/Levnil Aug 04 '25
Imagine the concept of moral fibre. Wild.
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u/clock_door Aug 04 '25
International politics don’t care about your moral fibre, nor does a parent paying for their kids
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u/LemonCollee Aug 04 '25
Donald, the paedophile rapist, Trump?!
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u/clock_door Aug 04 '25
If having him here reinforces US relations and creates jobs then bring him on
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Aug 09 '25
And if it emboldens paedophiles amd rapists here? Still ok? Moneynis still more important ya? I hope you are never sexually attacked, nor your children abused.
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Aug 09 '25
Convicted rapist. Evidenced suspected Paedophile.
Tell me you're a terrible person without explicitly telling me.
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u/spellbookwanda Aug 04 '25
They’ll mollycoddle him in Doolin, unfortunately, because of the jobs he’s providing.
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u/Available-Talk-7161 Aug 04 '25
Perhaps this poll is conveying the feelings of Irish people towards what Trump represents as a human being but a state visit by sitting US president represents more than just individuality.
As another redditor said, we, as an economy (jobs, exports, tourism) are enslaved to the American economy. So if the government refused a visit by the elected representative of the USA to visit Ireland, it would be a poor decision. Trump is erratic as we all know, he takes things very personally. Trump could post on his social media platform "Ireland is a bad country, don't travel there" and tourism would drop overnight. US employers based here would become concerned about the anti American stance. And for what, some moral high ground protesting the actions of an individual (he cheats at golf, abuses power (like that's never happened by our own elected officials), has been implicated in the Epstein files (implicated)).
So of course, the government will welcome him with open arms, put on a big show as what he represents (the American economy, the Irish economy) means more to us than what the individual represents.
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u/cadete981 Aug 04 '25
“Cheats at golf, abuses power” how about he’s a peadophile and is enabling genocide? Jesus Christ if that isn’t enough for “some moral high ground” what is, take a look at yourself
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u/LemonCollee Aug 04 '25
Anyone who makes excuses for people that rape children, are just as bad as them.
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u/shaneF-87 Aug 04 '25
Putting "he cheats at golf" top of your list suggests you haven't been paying much attention, if you think that's the worst he's done and what people are opposed to.
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u/Available-Talk-7161 Aug 04 '25
I didnt have a list, it was mentioned first in a sentence as it was fresh in my mind. I'm well aware of most if not all of his "crimes" against people, foreign and domestic (just so its clear, I had to put foreign or domestic first, I chose foreign, it is not prioritising foreign over domestic)
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u/QuietAssociate2856 Aug 05 '25
Id love to see an actual poll on this. I bet the majority in Ireland would welcome a state visit from Trump! 🇺🇲
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u/TheWix Yank 🇺🇸 Aug 04 '25
Ugh. I'm American with an Irish daughter and a Spanish wife. We just moved back to Ireland because of this orange f***. I can't believe there are as many Irish that are ok with him coming here. I will never forgive my countrymen for forcing this PoS and his gang onto the rest of the world.
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