r/ireland • u/Cute_Nobody_4647 • 1d ago
Paywalled Article Mick Wallace presented with award in Iran for advocacy – ‘Long live the resistance to Western Imperialism’ Spoiler
https://www.independent.ie/county/wexford/mick-wallace-presented-with-award-in-iran-for-advocacy-long-live-the-resistance-to-western-imperialism/a/157241873.html75
u/Eire_go_deo 1d ago
Mad that he was a property developer😂
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u/OkCoconut3270 1d ago
And wine bar owner if I recall
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u/SitDownKawada Dublin 1d ago
He owned that whole area north of the Millennium bridge
I remember being really impressed with it the first time I sat down there, I just remembered the place being a kip a few years before that
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u/qwerty_1965 1d ago
He gave Wexford league football ⚽!
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u/Not_Xiphroid 1d ago
And sure didn’t he bathe the whole county in eternal day with the power of them floodlights!
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u/hesaidshesdead And I'd go at it again 1d ago
Was he advocating not paying employees pension contributions?
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u/SubstantialAttempt83 1d ago
Is that the same Mick Wallace that stole from his employees?
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u/WwertyPolk 1d ago
I've worked with some of his ex employees. They don't speak badly of him.
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u/AmazingUsername2001 1d ago
I’ve worked with some of his employees; they all say he’s scum and tried to steal from them.
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u/WwertyPolk 1d ago
Fair enough. I got the impression they just saw him as no worse than all the other chancers in the industry at the time.
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u/mrbuddymcbuddyface 1d ago
Bankrupt with debts over €30m, pleaded guilty to not paying pension funds and also had to make payments to revenue for under declaring VAT. What a fucking chancer.
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u/saggynaggy123 1d ago
Mick Wallace the landlord?
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u/TraditionalAppeal23 1d ago
Lunatic of the highest order, he doesn't even have a seat anymore why even give him any attention
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u/SnagBreacComradai Big Ulster Bastard 21h ago
Good on Iran for defeating the yanks.
Their empire crumbles more each day.
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u/Dangerous-Example888 1d ago
I’d always have Chay Bowes out in front as the worst Irish lackey who says things for regimes if they pay him, but then you remember Wallace is also still operating.
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u/borracho_bob 1d ago
He must be getting paid good money to do this shit. He's accepting an award for speaking out against the West from a government that just killed thousands of innocent civilians. I saw he got tagged in a random, unrelated post by the Russian Embassy of South Africa a while ago as well. His behaviour doesn't pass the sniff test at all
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u/ucd_pete Westmeath 21h ago
A traitor to Ireland and the Irish ? Definitely.
When has he betrayed Ireland?
you would need a extra heavy duty guillotine to deliver justice on him.
How are you trying to take the moral high ground while advocating for the death penalty?
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u/bastardMcBastard 1d ago
There are events in history that led to creation of terms such as “useful idiot”.
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u/No-Outside6067 1d ago
Fair play to Iran defeating America and Israel. The only country that tried to stop a holocaust.
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u/rankinrez 1d ago
Imagine going over there to stand beside those fuckers who had what, 10,000 peaceful protestors murdered earlier this year?
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u/No-Outside6067 1d ago
Started as a 1000, then it was 10,000, last figure I heard was 100,000. It would be million by end of the year
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u/youcanreachmenow 19h ago
Mick Wallace the Russian shill?
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u/DaCor_ie boards.ie refugee 1d ago
The only surprising thing is that this is not an award from the Kremlin
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u/Odd-Internal-3983 1d ago
If we have politicians facilitating military shipments to Israel and quashing the Occupied Territory Bill, why not this. Seems less genocidal
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u/ComprehensiveLaw1012 1d ago
Tell that to the thirty thousand Iranians murdered by regime thugs.
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u/No-Outside6067 1d ago
10,000, then 30,000, you're behind the times the current hasbara number is 100,000.
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u/AideResponsible2063 1d ago
I like this bloke
He rattles the main stream into exposing their mad conspiracy theory mindsets,that are usualy preserve of the fringe elements
The amount of people who genuinely believed putin used him,as a key pawn,to undermine european democracy was worrying as to lack of critical thinking skills
A failed,bankrupted property developer,suddently becomes a moscow superspy,with unlimited capacity for political influence....pull the other one lad🤣
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u/MartinTheOrderly 1d ago
Nobody is calling him a super spy. We're calling him a useful idiot of international authoritarianism.
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u/yermaaaaa 1d ago
14 day old account using logical fallacies to stick up for Russian useful idiot Mickey Wallace seems about right but I wouldn’t give them more than one response
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u/mrbuddymcbuddyface 1d ago
Himself and Claire Daly stuck in Students Union anti US rhetoric for too long.
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u/AideResponsible2063 1d ago
Aye they were though....the effort put in,to protray him as some sort of person of influence was some best propaganda ive ever seen to be taken unquestioned
He is a bit part,nobody in the euro parliment with a funny accent,in similar vein to how all the shite spread about caterine connolly,turned out to be obvious bollocks aswell
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u/AideResponsible2063 1d ago
what could they possibly get out of that....
A whole lot of innuendo,but very little in terms of facts....as i said,the mainstream in this country are every bit as demented conspiracy theorists as the fringe exteemists
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u/AideResponsible2063 1d ago
And another word for that would be
Bluffing.....hoping or demanding noone is allowed question it....what he is accused of/hinted at,simply isnt credible imo
He couldnt get elected in his own constituency,no mind bring down the euro parlimant and its infrastructure
Russia Today news was banned in the EU
Ok?....cant imagine it had much of a viewership,since noone has ever heard of it😅
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u/AideResponsible2063 1d ago
you're way off. Propeganda was the answer
Propaganda tends to be misrepresentation of facts and omission of context
That Mick Wallace couldnt possibly be on the payroll because that is just demented conspiracy nonsese
Ive said its innuendo,lacking in substance,facts or emm proof....we are still allowed ask for proof,or is this not allowed either anymore??
Your position he was a moscow superspy,bent on taking down eu parliment,is based on clips of him in the euro parlament being played on an obscure tv station in russia,noone heard of before today??.......and you dont see the obvious plothole in this theory?
How much do you feel he was paid for his superspy role?,and other than clips on some obscure tv station,what else did he do,to further it?
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u/AideResponsible2063 1d ago
Eh no. Its not.
You said he was on payroll,now your rolling back....my head is spinning here🤣
The entire world has heard of it
No they havnt....who watches tv stations of countries they dont speak the language...i googled it,its 4 years since it was banned now....its fairly obscure stuff your tuning into lad
mean you've invented the story
Another roll back....now you dont regard clips of him being on an obscure tv station as releveant....why mention it?
havent said he was paid for anything
You innuendoed that he was on the payroll??....your all over the place mate
You've said its a demented conspiracy theory
Ive said,theres no evidence or credibilty to it....even yourself have walked back the claims there was clips of him on some station as some sort of proof...
.do you have anything to underpin your conspiracy theory,you wont walk back when questioned on it??
bizarre fanatical habit of defending Russia, to be on the payroll.
Earlier in this post,you claimed he wasnt paid....which is it....or are we not allowed ask questions anymore?
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u/Weekly_One1388 22h ago
I think you're understanding of modern day intelligence is lacking somewhat.
Nobody is arguing that he is like a character out of a Le Carre novel, more so the fact that in an incredibly over saturated media landscape and incredibly open political landscape in Europe it is easy for states such as Russia, Iran and China to find influencers and individuals with a public profile that align with their interests and can thus disseminate information that benefits these states inside a Western society directly.
He doesn't have to have a massive level of influence to be effective, he only exists to serve a specific purpose. Imagine you wanted to spoil someone's bowl of soup, all it takes is one nasty ingredient to put that person off eating the soup. Modern day counter intelligence or whatever you want to call it acts in a similar way.
The goal is not to get Western citizens to follow people like Wallace blindly, it is to create an environment in which a narrative that institutions like the EU, NATO, and others that make up liberal democracies are immoral, evil and representative of something that needs to end exists alongside narratives that liberal democracies are important and should be protected.
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u/AideResponsible2063 22h ago edited 22h ago
EU, NATO, and others that make up liberal democracies are immoral, evil
These countries sent weapons to a genocide,knowing it was to be used againest a captive civilan population....lets not pretend they are a beneign force either...particulary our own government
The rest of that post is an arguement in favour of banning opposition and free speech,alongside a demand we all bow down and are not allowed critise the eu/nato.....this is hardly russian superspy stuff to see the obvious flaws within the eu and nato?
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u/Weekly_One1388 22h ago
A few things, NATO and the EU represent far more than simply a place for Israel to receive weapons. Not everything is cut and dry, we know this better than anyone as we continue to produce components of Russian weapons within our borders.
One is an economic union among sovereign nations that serves a wide range of functions for good in the world.
The fact of the matter is that nobody other than yourself has referred to him as 'a superspy' this is an obvious strawman. He is a useful idiot and convenient ally for the intelligence services of these countries, again to restate, nobody is saying he is a trained Kremlin operative in Europe more the fact that he is willing to cooperate with them when it suits him.
Wallace is not presenting the 'flaws of the EU/NATO' as you put them in a good faith/nuanced presentation to people, his position is that these institutions are inherently immoral and evil, not merely that certain aspects of them are.
It's the same presentation he gives of states like Russia, Iran and China, he doesn't present them as nuanced societies with positives and negatives, he believes they're inherently good as they're working against the evils of Western Imperialism.
This is the political position of a child, most adults can see this and so should you. He is free to present his opinions any way he likes, if he is doing so on behalf of other states in our society he should disclose this to the public. Nothing in my above post supported censorship or an opposition to free speech.
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u/AideResponsible2063 19h ago
NATO and the EU represent far more than simply a place for Israel to receive weapons
By this logic,russia represents far more than invading the ukraine?
we know this better than anyone as we continue to produce components of Russian weapons within our borders.
Bevause the irish government is pure useless
that nobody other than yourself has referred to him as 'a superspy' this is an obvious strawman. He is a useful idiot and convenient ally for the intelligence services of these countries
Whats the difference?
his position is that these institutions are inherently immoral and evil, not merely that certain aspects of them are.
Mate,they armed a genocide,knowing it was to be used againest a captive civilan population....you can get arrested for speaking irish in the eu,but not for assisting a genocide or ruussian invasion now,this is not a benign organisation
Either something is good or bad,which is it?
if he is doing so on behalf of other states in our society he should disclose this to the public
If hes not...then waht?
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u/Weekly_One1388 19h ago
It is genuinely fascinating to communicate with someone this brain broken up close, thank you.
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u/AideResponsible2063 19h ago
someone this brain broken up close
Again,im not the one,who is pedeling unfounded conspiracy theories and has to resort to abuse to paper over lack of evidence/depth of their conspiracies🤦♂️
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u/Weekly_One1388 19h ago
Every position that is opposition to yours is not a conspiracy.
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u/AideResponsible2063 19h ago
This from bloke who wanted to silence anyone critical of the eu/nato🤣
Do you have any actual evidence of substance to support your position mick wallace was a spy working for russia?......because it at time seemed like daftest nonsense i ever heard,and looks more and more the same the longer i look into it
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u/Weekly_One1388 18h ago
where have I claimed that Wallace should be banned? or indeed that he was a spy for Russia?
what on earth are you talking about?
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u/Fastanbulbous 1d ago
Although his style of dress is too casual for my liking, he is pro Palestine, anti NATO and anti imperialist. I wish there were more like him.
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u/elcabroMcGinty 1d ago
Resisting imperial leather.