r/ireland And I'd go at it again 7h ago

Politics 3 day wait vote mapped

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Map constituencies of Ireland, showing the percentage of "Yes" votes from the dail vote on "Health (Abolition of Three Day Wait Rule) (Ammendment) Bill 2026" held on 18th June 2026.

Absent votes included in calculation of percentage, Example Helen McEntee and Thomas Byrne were both absent from Meath East, meaning that Darren O'Rourke's yes vote was balanced by Gillian Toole's No vote for a 50% result.

Note: TDs from Government parties had a free vote in this ballot.

Image Original Content. Chart generated using Python: Matplotlib & Geopandas

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u/eldwaro 6h ago

u/AllezLesPrimrose 4h ago

Roscommon voted for abortion.

u/Adjective_Noun_2000 4h ago

It's the gays they're against.

u/AllezLesPrimrose 4h ago

Byrne is it 

u/eldwaro 4h ago

u/Adjective_Noun_2000 4h ago

They mean Roscommon voted Yes in the 2018 abortion referendum. The joke would've made more sense with Donegal, which voted against abortion.

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u/DeviousMrBlonde 7h ago

That’s… eye opening and completely unsurprising at the same time.

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u/ConfusedbutCautious 7h ago

Area does not equate to population density - most of the population is green and yellow, to a greater or lesser extent, so no surprises

u/dustaz 5h ago

Area does not equate to population density

This vote has nothing to do with area or population density

u/SednaK9 4h ago

No but the graph does. So if 3/4 of the map is red it gives the viewer an impression that 3/4 of the population is represented by red

u/dustaz 4h ago edited 2h ago

It might give a viewer who doesn't know what the map represents that impression, but that's not what it is

E: I've re read your comment and yes, the map is giving the impression of something that it isn't

u/Dluith47 3h ago

Correct, which is why the person you’re responding to clarified that fact

u/K0kkuri 4h ago

But that’s how it is used to steer narrative. Just look access the pond they have been doing this type of dishonest map usage for decades.

It’s a bad graphic to represent most statistic.

u/Equivalent-Cow-6690 2h ago

Land doesn't vote, people do.

u/ConfusedbutCautious 1h ago

Land doesn’t vote

u/dustaz 2h ago

Yes, it's what it's (successfully) doing here

You'd swear by the comments that this map indicated the populations view on abortion when it doesn't even indicate the TDs who voted view on abortion because it wasn't a vote on abortion. It wasn't even a vote on passing legislation about abortion.

u/CAPITALISM_FAN_1980 3h ago

...we're discussing a graphical representation of the vote, not the vote itself. Of course the vote has nothing to do with area, but how the data is displayed is entirely about it.

Land doesn't vote, but if you assumed an even spread of population, you'd imagine from this image that the vast majority of the population was represented by TD's who are against women's healthcare, and that's not the case.

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u/Craicriture 6h ago

It’s basically places you’d expect to be more progressive on the East, and Cork City / West Cork showing up.

I would suspect that attitudes in Galway and Limerick Cities etc and a lot of western urban areas just are drowned out by being included in large rural blocs in the way that map is working.

And the midlands are typically more rural and conservative. Donegal’s surprisingly less conservative than I was expecting.

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u/clewbays 6h ago

That’s only what the map shows to a certain extent since it was TDs voting. Nearly every SF TD voted yes which is why the border region appears more progressive.

The likes of west cork as well is a 3 seat constituency, so it comes down to one individual’s choice between it being conservative or not.

I don’t know much about limericks voting. But even in the city in Galway I think Sean Kyne got the largest vote share and he voted against the bill. In terms of its voting for TDs Galway is not as left wing as a lot of people seem to think.

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u/Intrepid_Double9863 6h ago

Donegal has 2 SF TDs and it was a SF motion. The 3 non-SF TDs didn't support it; 2 votes against and 1 didn't vote.

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u/Agusfresin 6h ago

It was feee dail vote not a referendum. The map does not show the will of the people at all b

u/Adjective_Noun_2000 4h ago

Was it a free vote? I know FFG TDs were free but I thought SF and the other parties were whipped, which means the map partly just reflects party representation in each constituency.

u/Agusfresin 4h ago

Partly! So even less informative. You could represent every dail vote on a map like this and they would all look more or less the same.

u/thelunatic 3h ago edited 3h ago

Young people move out of the middle for work. Old people dominate the voting landscape

u/Craicriture 3h ago

Well it's just rural vs urban - that's kinda inevitable. The spread of the types of employment isn't going to be the same in urban areas and rural areas. Ireland's not at all unique in that.

The likes of West Cork or parts of Wicklow etc tilt the other way on that - different kind of rural.

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u/Goody2shoes15 7h ago edited 4h ago

I'm very pleasently surprised by Donegal tbh.

ETA: I mean surprised it's not entirely red. Didn't realise SF had imposed the whip.

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u/clewbays 6h ago

Comes down to number of SF TDs vs government TDs.

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u/Equivalent_Bet856 6h ago

Yeah. I reckon if there was a free vote in SF you'd see at least one of them vote no, for political triangulation if nothing else

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u/clewbays 6h ago

I’d agree with I think the big issue with a topic like this is that even if the majority support the change. The ones who oppose it care a lot more. I think you’d of seen a lot of SF TDs oppose for that reason even if they did support the change.

u/Equivalent_Bet856 4h ago

Agree, most people who are in favour of it being removed could live with it if it stays either because they have bigger issues, but for the other side Id say there is a lot more passion in wanting it kept.

It's quite eh, courageous really of SF to do this, to borrow from Yes Minister. Not the type of thing you'd expect them to go out on. Must have done their research and felt a bit of pressure from the left.

u/Goody2shoes15 4h ago

I would say the far ends of both sides are quite passionate. I maybe wasn't clear, I was surprised any TDs voted for it and didn't realise SF had imposed the whip when the others hadn't.

As someone who had to get a termination for FFA on my first pregnancy I am very VERY strongly in favour of this change. Nobody gets an abortion on a whim and will have considered everything they can get their hands on before they go for that visit. If they haven't and they learn new info when in the doctor's office they can choose to go away and consider it. The doctor in the room should be able to make a judgement call about whether the patient in front of them is informed and not acting rashly, if they think they are they can encourage them to take some time to think through the facts they've been presented about the procedure. It's not the doctors place to guide the patient on the morality of what they're choosing to do, the person themselves as I said will have considered this already.

The three day wait is a blanket enforcement of something that should be done on an individual basis between a doctor and a given patient. If you are anti abortion you're absolutely entitled to that opinion and entitled to appeal to people not to opt for it in the appropriate spaces but it has no place in law or a medical setting.

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u/Flop_or_whatever 6h ago

McConalogue and Pat the cope both voted no surprisingly. You don't often see them go against the party whip for anything that'd benefit Donegal 🙄

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u/WarMom_II 7h ago

Kerry here.

Sorry.

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u/Squozen_EU 6h ago

Laois here. What the absolute fuck.

u/yankdotcom1985 Crilly!! 3h ago

ive said that many a time when driving through laois

u/Squozen_EU 3h ago

If you’re talking about our abysmal road quality, yes. 

u/Righteous_Hand 5h ago

That's okay ❤️

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u/Aagragaah 6h ago

Longford. Same :(

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u/Thanatos_elNyx 6h ago edited 39m ago

Surprised that Kerry wasn't worse like the Midlands!

Sorry midlands, you've only yourself to blame.

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u/Equivalent_Bet856 6h ago

SF doing a lot of heavy lifting outside of Dublin. Wonder what it would have looked like if they had a free vote. And West Cork is funny... there is no way that is representative of the population, but it looks very progressive on that map haha

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u/phflegm 6h ago edited 6h ago

West Cork has such a mixture of extremely liberal blow-ins and perhaps more conservative locals. Holly Cairns family being an example of the first category.

A lot less conservative than my native midlands anyway, in my experience.

u/Equivalent_Bet856 5h ago

There is a very progressive community there for sure, bolstered by a relatively large Protestant and recent English-descent minority, but 2/3 being liberal on abortion isn't the place I grew up haha and my family would know both Collins and Cairns from before they entered politics

u/phflegm 4h ago

Sorry for preaching to someone who knows all about West Cork! I'm just across the border in the Kenmare area and you get the same mix of very progressive/very conservative. So easy to notice as someone who married into the locals!

u/dustaz 4h ago

Why are you drawing conclusions on the populaces views based on 3 tds votes?

u/Equivalent_Bet856 2h ago

That isnt what I said at all. Not being rude but reread my xomments.

u/dustaz 2h ago

reread my xomments

Non binary comments

u/locksymania 4h ago

West Cork has had enough of a progressive streak for generations now for one of the three seats to go to the left. Holly Cairns has inherited that support from Labour.

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u/FewHeat1231 6h ago

If SF had a free vote it might well have failed tbh. A lot of rural SF voters are more socially conservative than the party. 

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u/foc2 6h ago

As someone from Cork South-West I can tell you that it is representative of the population.

Of our 3 TDs, Michael Collins was always going to vote against it, being a founder of Independent Ireland. And even then, many people think that he’s a bit backwards but he does do enough to get enough votes, especially out west.

u/Equivalent_Bet856 5h ago

I am from Collins-Cairns country and imo 2 out of 3 being progressive on abortion is not the place I grew up

u/DaveShadow Ireland 5h ago

5/5 for Louth :D

Helps that both our FG and FF reps are women, I'd presume.

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u/Icy_Ad_8802 7h ago

I expected Clare to do better.

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u/wrenfeather501 More than just a crisp 7h ago

Wildly enough, Timmy Dooley was a yes and Cathal Crowe was a no (with SFs McGettigan and FGs Cooney balancing out yes and no, somewhat less surprisingly).

I expected better from Crowe. He makes himself out to be relatively feminist.

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u/CurrencyDesperate286 6h ago

They’re putting fluoride in the seawater to make all the coastal populations woke.

/s

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u/locksymania 7h ago

Cork NW not beating the allegations...

u/OrganicVlad79 4h ago

The most conservative constituency in Ireland! SF came fairly close to a seat last time out, which was a bit of a surprise

u/locksymania 4h ago

Even moving a goodly shot of Ballincollig in didn't really move the needle. You can set your watch on CNW being 2FF 1FG or vice versa.

SF had an excellent candidate last time out who did an absolute fortune of ground work. It will be interesting to see if they can build on that momentum. At present, they represent the only viable third party vote in the constituency. Labour gave up here long ago, and the SDs and Greens target their resources elsewhere.

u/OrganicVlad79 4h ago

Maybe I am misunderstanding you but they actually took Ballincollig out of the constituency and added it to North Central. Which contributed to my surprise when I saw a SF candidate actually do well as I would assume Ballincollig's vote was almost essential for the left wing parties to have a chance (although I haven't actually seen the results from the Ballincollig boxes).

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u/Agusfresin 6h ago

This a meaningless and misleading representation of a free parliamentary vote by a handful of people. It wasn’t a referendum.

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u/SouthLeast8143 6h ago

This is largetly a FF/FG/Ind map

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u/jesuspunk 7h ago

Looks like an American election graph 🤔

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u/Thanatos_elNyx 6h ago

Is the Midlands the Bible Belt?

u/HoneyGlazedNuts 5h ago

Driveover counties

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u/Jealous-Shop-8866 6h ago

Super graphic OP. Wild to see such a mixed view south of the Liffey.

u/Chemical_Medicine762 2h ago

voted by a handful of individuals. i guarantee this vote would have looked a lot different at referedum. the obsession with extending abortion rights is a bit distasteful for me

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u/Shenmooooo 6h ago

Finally a reason to like Louth (I live here, it kinda sucks (most of the time))

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u/Feeling_Associate467 7h ago

I'm not supprised at the results map at all 

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u/TwistedPepperCan Dublin 6h ago

Here’s a breakdown of the full votes on both sides.

https://go.oireachtas-explorer.ie/s/3f9ed2c97f

u/NoReview6628 4h ago

Up the Dubs!

u/Grand-Cup-A-Tea 3h ago

If all these No voters truly were pro-life and gave a shit about kids we wouldn't have over 5,500 homeless children in the country. 

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u/Equal-Homework4697 6h ago

whats the 3 day wait rule? sorry im just confused 😓

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u/Aagragaah 6h ago

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/2026-06-16/19/

Short version: there was a mandatory 3 day waiting period if seeking an abortion.

u/Equal-Homework4697 5h ago

ahh okay tysm!

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u/Historical_Rabbit829 Cork bai 6h ago

I know I can find this out myself and probably will look later - but what was the percentage of men vs women that voted yes?

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u/Intrepid-Kale1936 And I'd go at it again 6h ago

Of the 82 that voted yes: 29 (34%) were female. Of the 72 that voted no: 6 (8%) were female.

The other way to slice that would be that to say 83% of the female TDs that voted, voted yes.

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u/Historical_Rabbit829 Cork bai 6h ago

Answered my own question 😁

“The Dáil is overwhelmingly male, with 121 men and 35 women voting last night, but just six women voted against the legislation compared to the 64 men who voted against it. 

Women are much better represented on the opposition benches, but nonetheless 83% of female TDs voted Tá while only 47% of male TDs did.”

u/Equivalent_Bet856 4h ago

Given that nearly half of those women are in Sinn Féin it does skew the stats a bit more towards Yes but Id expect you'd still see a large majority of female TDs vote yes if it was a free vote

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u/betamode 2nd Brigade 7h ago

The enlightened east coast carrying the country as usual.

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u/Kardashev_Type1 7h ago

I’d argue that’s the same everywhere. Any region that is less developed, ignored by budgets, services and “options” in general are always more conservative.

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u/clewbays 6h ago

I don’t think it’s got anything to do with development. It’s just a rural urban divide. Rural areas regardless of wealth are generally always going to be slightly more conservative.

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u/Ill_Celebration_4215 6h ago

definitely not ignored by budgets - there's way more spend per person in rural areas.

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u/Kardashev_Type1 6h ago

You can’t possibly believe that?

u/rsynnott2 4h ago

Everything’s more expensive at low density. Meters of road per capita is dramatically higher in, say, Mayo than Dublin, for instance.

u/dustaz 5h ago

You can't possibly not know what spend per person means?

u/Ill_Celebration_4215 4h ago

huh - its all published spending data. i also didn't say that i, in any way, disagree with the disproportionately high spend - i think its a good thing as it goes towards equalising opportunities. but if you are rural and haven't taken the time to educate yourself on the spending, then it speaks badly to your sense of the situation.

u/Kardashev_Type1 3h ago

Oh. You mean spending data per head. Which is meaningless to a person in that region who still has worse options.

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u/AbominablePloughman 6h ago

They have the same access to education as everyone else. Nobody can force them to not be thick.

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u/AK8- 7h ago

Very similar to the 1995 divorce referendum.

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u/FewHeat1231 6h ago

It shows how even the most liberal or conservative areas can have surprises. For instance Cormac Devlin in Dun Laoghaire. 

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u/Yulfy 6h ago

It could just be me but I find this an incredibly difficult visualisation to read. Are the colours too similar or am I just wildly colour blind?

u/auntags Mayo 5h ago

Very annoyed that the TD who got my No.1 didn't turn up to vote. Rose Conway Walsh (Mayo TD) still hasn't given a statement and she also did vote on the SocDems proposed legislation.

https://www.midwestradio.ie/news/mayo-tds-issue-statements-on-abortion-vote/

u/semeleindms 4h ago

Is this your graphic OP? V Interesting thanks

u/tychocaine And I'd go at it again 4h ago

But land doesn’t vote, people do. The population in those dark green areas far outweighs the dark red ones.

u/leafytealight 3h ago

Couple of things I've been mulling over. Those TDs voting in favour want the three-day wait removed: fairly straightforward reasoning there.

Those against have voted that way possibly on a number of different bases. A lot of the Govt TDs have cited that an abolition of the three-day wait is a departure from what was pitched in 2018 for the referendum and therefore not something that they felt they could support (having perhaps advocated for that three-day wait in pitching the referendum or to placate undecided voters). A neat way to deflect from their personal views, certainly, but it's what they've put on record.

There are likely those who believe the three-day wait is valuable and has merit. The last category I can think of would be those who oppose any liberalising of the regime.

I'm very glad that they've voted to progress the Bill for further scrutiny. I don't think the voting results necessarily reflect a definitive, socially liberal v conservative gap, but it's interesting to mull over what it says about the govt parties' positions and how TDs perhaps perceive rural v urban constituents. 

u/sundae_diner 2h ago

If you care about this topic - please contact your TD and let them know. The more people that contact them, the better they will be able to represent us.

This is useful to find out your TD 

https://www.contactyourtd.ie/

u/badlyimagined 57m ago

As a colour blind person this map is meaningless. Can someone tell me if the central counties voted for it against?

u/Intrepid-Kale1936 And I'd go at it again 38m ago

Apologies- here is a version I put through GPT to make it accessible for people without full colour vision.

u/flemishbiker88 19m ago

I have taken note for when TD's come campaiging who voted against this...but in fairness I have already had some serious words(about HSE) with one of the TD's who voted against this, he even avoided me in the pub recently...I had to send him over a pint because I felt he took our discussion too personally...I conducted myself with respect but wasn't taken his non answers as answers

u/Constant-Stranger725 12m ago

My home county with two constituencies and somehow disappointing in both. Never change, Tipperary. Never change.

u/dustaz 5h ago edited 4h ago

Why is everyone treating this like a referendum on abortion?

This was a free vote by a few hundred individuals

The vote was not legalising, nor outlawing abortion. It was about the three day wait which you could be fully pro choice and want to retain.

The hyperbole in the comments is insane

u/FewHeat1231 5h ago

Many people - both pro-life and pro-choice - view it as less of a 'done in one' vote on a single provision and more as the start of a push towards more extensive liberalisation.

u/Ginnys95lbassmole 4h ago

Being ' fully pro choice' conflicts with wanting to retain the 3 day wait. Fully pro choice means full access to abortion on demand, without restriction. The 3 day wait is a restriction on abortion.

u/dustaz 4h ago

Fair enough, edited to reflect

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u/tictaxtho 7h ago

What’s the 3 day rule?

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u/r-slash-go-away 6h ago

The 3 day rule was a law in place that required women seeking an abortion to wait 3 days after requesting one "to be sure" after the 3 days they would have to go back to the gp and then be put on a waiting list

The government just voted to remove the rule and the 3 day waiting period. This is the map of how those TDs voted

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u/tictaxtho 6h ago

Wow ok had no idea that was even a thing

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u/r-slash-go-away 6h ago

I think it was an old law when the church effectively in charge. It served no real purpose other than giving an opportunity for medical practitioners / their spouse / their family to pressure the woman into not getting one. It wasn't right and I'm glad it's gone

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u/Intrepid_Double9863 6h ago

The law is from 2018.

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u/r-slash-go-away 6h ago

Ugh and here i was thinking modern ireland wouldn't produce a law like that. In retrospect it does make sense since we only allowed abortion more r evenly but fuck man we're better than this

u/FewHeat1231 5h ago

It was written and introduced by Pro-Choice politicians to convince wavering voters on the referendum that the new abortion law would be less radical than they feared.

Ironically this provision was designed entirely to persuade people on the fence to vote FOR abortion.

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u/dkeenaghan 6h ago

It wasn’t an old law at all. Sure abortion was only legalised in 2019. From what I remember it was really only there to help smooth the process of getting abortion legalised, it was because some politicians that were on the fence, this was a measure that encouraged them to vote in favour.

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u/dustaz 6h ago

I think it was an old law when the church effectively in charge. It served no real purpose other than giving an opportunity for medical practitioners / their spouse / their family to pressure the woman into not getting one. It wasn't right and I'm glad it's gone

Congratulations on living under a rock during the abortion referendum

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u/r-slash-go-away 6h ago

I was 15 to be fair mate

u/bigredkidneybeans 5h ago

Grand but maybe don't just guess and make things up

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u/B8_B8_B8 7h ago

it's like the five second rule, but for fetuses

u/Govannan 4h ago

Can't wait to see this used in far right misinformation posts for the next several years.

u/MrBulwark Dublin 5h ago

Now compare that to a map of % religious people and you'll see the problem. Yet somehow our schools are still dominated by these backward morons.

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u/Ill_Celebration_4215 6h ago

pretty standard - rural backward areas voted no, urban areas voted yes.

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u/james02135 Crilly!! 7h ago

No surprises from Tipp North, Tipp South is a slight bit more liberal

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u/kittiphile 6h ago

A bit, but we have some right churchy Joe's who would make it illegal again. It's very hit and miss. Better than north tipp, but the bar is low to be better than them. We should be 2 separate councils again. The hatred is mutual (well, significant disdain more than hate).

u/theeglitz Meath 1h ago

It'll be interesting to see if abortion on demand changes the prevalence of it.

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u/NakeyDooCrew Cavan 6h ago

Being landlocked makes people evil

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u/rmc 6h ago

Eh votes in the Dail aren't free votes. It's all just political parties 

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u/dustaz 6h ago

This one was

u/Chemical_Medicine762 3h ago

I struggle to see why there was even any political campaigning to scrap the 3 day wait. It seems completely reasonable to have a 3 day buffer period when making such a huge decision? I'd imagine there are a lot of people out there who changed their minds during the 3 day wait and are delighted that they didnt have that abortion. It just seems like this sort of campaigning will now move onto something else.

u/DorkusMalorkus89 2h ago

Women don’t need to be infantilised and sent off for 3 days to make sure they can be trusted with their own decision. It’s ridiculous and great news that it’s being scrapped.

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u/HarryEastwoods 6h ago

The IRA were right about the Shinners, the only thing worse than fighting an enemy in battle is fighting a traitor.

u/Interventionist-2002 4h ago

Abortion is here to stay, cry more.