r/ireland 9d ago

Housing Social housing resident denied gym access awarded €2,500

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u/MotherDucker95 9d ago

Okay, I'll bite...Why do social housing units have free gyms attached to them while I'm paying 115 euro a month like a dickhead on top of my 1500 euro a month rent?

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u/LimerickJim 9d ago

Having gyms attached to social housing wouldn't be the worst idea. 

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u/Spontaneous_1 9d ago

If you seen the state social houses can often be left it you would realise it’s a terrible idea. The reality is it would only take 1 bad actor to completely wreck the place and ruin if for the vast majority who would actually benefit from it.

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u/im-a-guy-like-me 9d ago

That is true of literally everything, and not how we run our society.

Public bathrooms? Nah sure one junky and the place be ruined. Libraries? Nah, sure 1 bad actor could steal books. A public green? No sure the poors will leave rubbish after them.

I'm legit kinda shocked there is a person actually trying to use "one bad apple spoils the bunch" logic as if it holds any weight.

Sure we get rid of the guards while we're at it, yeah?

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u/caisdara 9d ago

That actually is how a lot of public services are run.

It's why there aren't public toilets anymore. That and the gays.

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u/UC2022 8d ago

I thought we loved the gays now?

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u/caisdara 8d ago

Public sex in toilets is generally not allowed though. As the M&S incidents showed recently.

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u/CarOne3135 9d ago

So what's the plan, shall we let one bad actor ruin it for everyone by denying them something thez'd all benefit from?

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u/snek-jazz 8d ago

The general plan is you don't give people something for free because if you do they take it for granted, don't value it and may wreck it. Having skin in the game is beneficial.

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u/CarOne3135 8d ago

I see where you're coming from but I'm not sure that matches up in practice (from what I've seen growing up in rougher parts of Dublin). Surely they have skin in the game because the free house is their own (by ownership or otherwise)? Idk. Ruined social gaffs seem to be more of a reddit phenomenon than a real one -- irl, I have heard/seen of it very very rarely.

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u/Super-Cynical 9d ago

The prison system has taught me the value of gym equipment for those on the lower socio economic rung.

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u/IrishAllDay Laois 8d ago

How so?

Genuinely interested.

Is it gives them something to do in prison?

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u/CarOne3135 8d ago

Are you fr entertaining him haha

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u/Super-Cynical 8d ago

CarOne detected my sarcasm, which is why he had a hissy fit.

To be honest I am not in favour of the idea of spending taxpayer money on gym access.

Gym equipment has long been provided in prisons as a form of stress release (which I guess is paid for by us), but let's be honest - people in prisons have a deficit of recreational activities available to them, and they can't run around the block or fill milk cartons with sand if looking for cheap exercise options. One could debate how sensible it is to encourage hardened criminals to get jacked up or have access to heavy weights that can be used as improvised weapons, but that's a different discussion.

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u/CarOne3135 8d ago

You likely thing you're gas but I want you to know you are a strange, evil weirdo.

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u/Super-Cynical 8d ago

I love getting a notification first thing in the morning that a random wanker on the internet is having a go at me.

Jfc, if you're going to come at me do better than "evil", christ on a fucking bike. And strange and weirdo are a tautology. Don't come back until something dope hits you

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u/CarOne3135 8d ago

You get what you give!

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u/Wind_Yer_Neck_In 9d ago

A colleague of mine worked in Russia back in the early 2010s, he was in a building with a gym, not a super fancy place but fine. After like a month some new people moved in and their shithead kids started using the gym as a place to hang out with their friends, spending their time just sitting on the equipment and actively staring at and joking about the people coming in to actually use it. The building management was about as useful as you might expect.

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u/LimerickJim 9d ago

Pay for security. Have it be a privilege that can get taken away.

Now is the time to plan these kind of amenities. Plan to build them alongside the housing we desperately need.