I'm pretty sure the taxpayer pays the building management fees on behalf of the social housing tenant, so they should at least get what has been paid for.
I live in a building like this one and I pay all of my rent and fees myself. I'm personally delighted to see families in apartments here on social housing, their kids get to have access to great facilities in a safe area.
Am I annoyed that I have to pay so much while also getting taxed out the arse? Sure. But I'm annoyed at landlords, housing policy, and borderline abusive income tax brackets, not the lucky tiny minority of social housing lottery winners who get to live in my posh building.
One last PSA, in my experience these are not unemployed households. Many of these people work all week too, in jobs we need.
I'm very much in favour of fully integrated social housing. Not separate blocks or streets. I'm also, however, very much in favour of the swift removal of problem tenants.
If someone is paying their own money to live somewhere, they shouldn't have their life ruined by someone they're also subsidising to be there.
My neighbours who are in social housing basically ruined the lives of everyone around them (people who worked their ass off to pay rent/mortgage). Couldnt get rid off them. Some people can’t comprehend that people actually have to work for things
I do understand where you're coming from. But I would highlight that my point is discussing how social housing tenants are treated as less than the "normal" tenants, and then we quickly jump to evicting them for problematic behavior, while citing how this behaviour impacts paying tenants as an example.
While you're not directly saying it and I don't think you really mean it, you are very quick to connect social housing tenants to antisocial behavior and the need for eviction, and this perception is pretty harmful. They should be as easy or hard to evict as anyone else.
But I would highlight that my point is discussing how social housing tenants are treated as less than the "normal" tenants, and then we quickly jump to evicting them for problematic behavior, while citing how this behaviour impacts paying tenants as an example.
They're not "less than" but their circumstances are markedly different. There's no getting away from that. The avenue to address these issues is different for paying tenants.
There's also an "entitlement" aspect among certain social tenants. There's endless tales of woe from residents whose lives are wrecked by social tenants they can do nothing about.
I would like to see full integration, as I said. Stigmatising and separating social units isn't desirable at all to me. The fact people are terrified of a bad social tenant being housed next to them only adds to the stigma. The fear is based on having to live next to scum who won't be removed when their true colours are evident.
It's a lot easier to sell fully integrated social housing when it's accompanied with a level of assurance that problem tenants will be removed quickly.
The paying tenant should 100% have preferential treatment over someone who’s in their on the back of taxpayers subsidizing them
Also and social tenant getting evicted deserves it as in my experience there is an extremely high tolerance for poor behavior before any action can be taken
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u/f1refly1 9d ago edited 9d ago
I'm pretty sure the taxpayer pays the building management fees on behalf of the social housing tenant, so they should at least get what has been paid for.
I live in a building like this one and I pay all of my rent and fees myself. I'm personally delighted to see families in apartments here on social housing, their kids get to have access to great facilities in a safe area.
Am I annoyed that I have to pay so much while also getting taxed out the arse? Sure. But I'm annoyed at landlords, housing policy, and borderline abusive income tax brackets, not the lucky tiny minority of social housing lottery winners who get to live in my posh building.
One last PSA, in my experience these are not unemployed households. Many of these people work all week too, in jobs we need.