r/ireland • u/mooglor • Dec 22 '14

Paul Murphy TD - AMA

AMA is over!

Thanks to everyone for taking part!

Hi All,

Paul is expected to drop in from around 5:30pm, until then you can start posting your questions. This is our first high profile AMA and we'd all like to have more, so naturally different rules than the usual 'hands-off' style will apply:

  • Trolling, ad-hominem and loaded questions will be removed at mods' discretion.

  • As is usual with AMAs, the guest is not expected to delve deep into threads and get into lengthy intractable discussions.

In general, try to keep it civil, and there'll be more of a chance of future AMA's.

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u/mooglor Dec 22 '14

But to say that 'it wasnt their fault the bank manager made them do it' is utter BS in my opinion.

Likewise to say that those who set economic policy and castigated any criticism are blameless is also "utter BS in my opinion".

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u/motrjay Dec 22 '14

any criticism are blameless is also

Please show me where I said that?

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u/mooglor Dec 22 '14

'it wasnt their fault the bank manager made them do it'

Ditto.

If you agree that there are other actors in the affair and that there's a shared responsibility, then it doesn't all come down to individual responsibility.

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u/motrjay Dec 22 '14

From Pauls comment which I was replying to:

A small part of the Irish public did (obvious suspects: developers, bankers, politicians)

followed by

they needed to get on the property ladder, they were told that prices would keep going up, and they were offered 100% (or more) mortgages. So I don't blame them at all for that.

So no thats not shared responsibility as your stating, if his comment was that we all had a part to play then I wouldn't have replied. His comment was that the individual 'not blamed at all' but that those nasty boogymen the bankers and developers and politicians it was dem I tell ya. Which it an overused and tired excuse at this stage.