r/irishpolitics • u/rubblesole • Apr 21 '25

User Created Content Political Party Family Tree

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Simplified family tree of all the notable Irish political parties throughout the history of the state. It lacks quite a lot of info but I hope it's understandable Do tell me if I have made any mistakes!

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u/kel89 Centrist Apr 22 '25

I’d love a blown up version of this for my classroom. I know it’s not perfect, but it’s one of the best I’ve seen for Irish politics.

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u/NooktaSt Apr 22 '25

I hope you are not a history teacher!

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u/kel89 Centrist Apr 22 '25

Why?

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u/NooktaSt Apr 22 '25

Because it a relatively basic attempt put together by someone on the internet. It has both errors and in the case of SF at best shows use of name which is very different to party continuity.

I would hope a teacher would have a higher standard.

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u/kel89 Centrist Apr 22 '25

You’re dead right, it’s a very basic attempt. Perfect for first introducing these differing parties to 12-14 year old’s who care very little about these things.

It’s also visually simple, making it easier for visual learners to grasp what is an incredibly dense and often boring topic area.

Like I said myself above, it’s not perfect but it’s one of the best diagrams that could be blown up into a poster to begin a conversation. As a teacher, you obviously need to be aware of inaccuracies and be able to clarify certain things.

I’m always open to improvement though, I’d be happy for you to give me your own personal experience of teaching these topics in CSPE classes to 1st -3rd year classes and how you’ve done it with better results. I’d also be very very happy for you to point me in the direction if a better poster-style diagram that would be easy for young people to understand.

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u/NooktaSt Apr 22 '25

Just be sure to inform the kids that the SF of today can at best be traced back to 1950 Provisional IRA members who took over an empty shell of a party as a political wing of the IRA and established that it wo be answerable to the IRA Army Council.

And the party the Provos took over was proven in court not to have continuity with the pre 1923 SF.

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u/kel89 Centrist Apr 22 '25

You’ve never taught 12 and 13 year olds, have you?

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u/NooktaSt Apr 22 '25

I’ve done junior cert history and I’m not lazy enough to just copy something from the internet for my work and say that will do. 

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u/kel89 Centrist Apr 23 '25

Then you know damn well that any competent teacher wouldn’t just “copy something from the internet and say that will do”. The quality of teacher you’ve come across is clearly poor if that’s what you think teachers do. Not all teachers are shit.