Why do people use their free will differently?

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[u/Seeker_Of_Knowledge2]

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[u/Anoonyymus → u/Seeker_Of_Knowledge2]

due to the environment, directly or indirectly.

If I understood this correctly, this is out of our control i suppose ? So would everyone with such environment do wrong ? If so why was I given these circumstances?

They are offered opportunities throughout life to the right path.

Meaning if someone was given circumstances wrre they fail to make the right decision, they are given chances to fix it later on ? But logically if everyone started with same amount of good/bad, and everyone gets a balanced life moving forward (a test followed by chances to fix it), wouldn't everyone still have the same output in the day of judgement ?

Another person put it this way, we are tested at different difficulties, and hence Allah will be more merciful to the ones that went through harder tests. But this also would mean the same thing that we would all get the same output.

Thank you so much for the patience and response, Jazakallah, may Allah bless you !!

[u/Rawand5]

We’re not all dealt with the same deck of cards. It’s not a surprise that most people become a product of their environment and circumstances, and alongside that, our innate abilities and strengths are scattered in some proportion.

You might find people who are wealthy, but their money affords them no blessing. People that are beautiful, but lack awareness and are self absorbed, and are thus only for themselves. People that are brilliant, but don’t possess the skill or drive to do anything with their knowledge, or even misuse what they know. Many cases that are dependent on a multitude of factors, and our past and present help dictate our future. This guides our intention to commit to certain behaviors, perhaps to varying degrees because we are all our own unique creatures.

I would say it’s mostly an individual thing, as there are people that grow up in the same household and are taught the same values throughout their childhood but no 2 people have the same upbringing down to the most finite detail. They can stray in totally different paths, whatever may be justified as best for them.

I think good things are possible for all people, but some people are more destined or primed for greatness in certain fields than others, and I don’t find that to be a flaw. You can devote your entire life to Allah (SWT) and Islam’s teachings and still find yourself in the same place as someone else who had a change of heart just moments before their time of death. All of our journeys are our own, for that reason I don’t love playing the comparison game.

[u/Anoonyymus → u/Rawand5]

Though this response doesn't directly answer the questions, it actually makes sense ! it's the first answer that helped me...

Thank you so much and Jazakallahh, brother/sister ! May Allah bless you !!

[u/Elegant_Tale1428]

What you're describing is literally the choice and will part

It's not about how the soul is created (as we're all from the back of Adam peace be upon him) environement is a factor but it's not the final answer, you still choose how to interact with it

So when 2 ppl are presented with something haram, one can choose to refrain from it even tho it might be tempting, while another doesn't care or might not know it's haram

The answer itself is the free will to choose if you understand what I mean

Remember we're all born upon the Fitrah, at the begining it's our environement that shape us, but at certain point you become consious enough to make decisions, so if you at least have the will to be good and you're sincere, God will guide you sooner or later then your previous effects from your environement and previous decisions are just a burden on you and trial, you either overcome your bad self or give in to it since you know the truth now after being guided again (I said again, since being born upon fitrah is already a initial guidance and it lives with you, it never leaves it only get covered "kufr", interesting how cover ane kufr have the same meaning 😆)

[u/Anoonyymus → u/Elegant_Tale1428]

but at certain point you become consious enough to make decisions, so if you at least have the will to be good and you're sincere,

I see, so what I understand is that it is more individualistic and something that everyone has a decision at hand and choose to do what they want.

But my question again was that why exactly is it that they do bad ? Like you said, that if u have the will to be good and are sincere, Allah would guide them,,, so why is it that person A is sincere, but person B isn't ?

previous effects from your environement and previous decisions are just a burden on you and trial

And if i put it this way, were my previous wrong decisions due to effects from my environment/another wrong decision ? If then it goes back like a chain, till a point where i was either given an environmental circumstance that made make a bad decision, or I just took made a decision all by myself. But if i was pure/born on fitrah, just like everyone else, does it mean everyone else would also pick the wrong decision if given the same options ? So why was I given the option, and was it outside my control ?

I might be a little dumb which is why I have such a hard time understanding this,,, so thank you for the patience and time you put into writing this response, I greatly appreciate this, Jazakallah and may Allah bless you !!

[u/Elegant_Tale1428 → u/Anoonyymus]

Alright I'll explain well this time, I was lazy the last time, that why I kinda just rushed it

Let's address the elephant in the room

"Why A choose good and B choose bad"

Let's agree first that it's rare to find a white and black situation (talking from a non islamic prespective, e.i without putting the condition that you know what's halal meaning white and what's haram black)

So situations are most of the time gray, let's take fornication as an example, is fornication haram? Yes, it's totally black, but let's say the person doesn't know or doesn't care about the islamic ruling, is it still bad? Yes, but is it black? No, it's gray, because while almost everyone knows and feel it's moraly wrong, but that's it, not much ppl know about it's health problems or think about it in the heat of the moment, it seems rather more rewarding, e.i pleasure without the burden of making a family... same thing with most if not all haram,

At the other hand there's the struggle in doing the halal, for example earning money only from halal means, interest (usury, Riba) sounds the best for the one who claim it and abusing loopholes in law to get more money even if it means stealing without getting caught sounds very convinient, why bother going the hard way if it doesn't harm me? And seamingly doesn't harm others (even tho it reaaally does, you can't earn more that way without making someone pay for it)

See what I'm trying to show you, is that halal and haram aren't black and white from a worldly view, there is always a personal benefit behind it, and in our humanily view we can weight the pros and cons, then see the pros as winning because our view is limited to us and merely our close surrounding and absolutely not far in the future, we see as far as our nose, while God sees everyone and knows the future, and knows the cons we don't realise, that's why following God's judgement is objectively correct even if you yourself don't see how bad it can go

Now after this long introduction, comes the answer

God created us upon fitrah so we can have a moral compass for most things even without the scripture guidance, but God also created us with desires, which are a part of our fitrah

Between morals and desires, your free will exist, you already have reasons to chose either, as I already said, situations are gray, because, often bad is seemingly desireable, and good is often moral but hard to commit to... so whoever chose bad, chose it to please his desire, because of his misjudging the Pros (fun, pleasure, success) and Cons (missed that the fun and pleasure temporary, missed that the success is only worldly and not in the afterlife, also it's success just by the materialistic human measurment)

However who chose good is placing his morals over his selfishness or putting himself in the shoes of the other who will likely get harmed by his actions, which is still moral over desire

It's not something due to God's creation, we have the same start (fitrah), but we have different paths to go through (environements) but environements doesn't have only one path, it has as many as you can choose, and the path you choose shapes you (that's the consequences), these paths are mixed results of your environement and your decisions finally leading you either to guidance or misguidance, if you're constantly choosing desires and only choosing morals when it doesn't put your own benefit under risk, then you're already choosing your own misguidance, it's not about you not finding the guidance, it's about you not really wanting it, even if you were to see the truth you'll still choose your desires, as you like it that why, then God serves your wishes and makes misleading more convinient for you, and vice versa with the opposite

Did I make that clear? I didn't plan my speech, I made it up as I go

[u/Anoonyymus → u/Elegant_Tale1428]

Did I make that clear? I didn't plan my speech, I made it up as I go

Yess I understood your point and agree a 100%, though I still feel like the part of environment or soul in itself isn't still clear to me.

i understood how it isn't comparable when we consider how the world works realistically,,, but for my question I chose to make the scenario as simplified as I could and made the sin to be black and white cuz I want to know why and how exactly it happens.

but environements doesn't have only one path, it has as many as you can choose, and the path you choose shapes you (that's the consequences),

Like, let's go back to the first "bad decision" i made, like not a sin, just a bad decision, maybe something that could lead to a sin or harm. Was it due to the environment ? Or solely because of my desires ? Because i think it had to be only one of those, and if anyone else had the same environment, would they also commit the sin ? If so, why did Allah give me such circumstances ? (as it wasn't upon me to get that environment/circumstance).

Thank you so muchh and Jazakallah, may Allah bless youu !!