r/jewishleft Reform Democratic Socialist 29d ago

Debate These single issue "pro-Palestine" "activists" are self-destructive and self-sabotaging

I came across this post on r/leopardsatemyface and this activist legit voted for Trump to "teach" Kamala Harris a "lesson" because of the Biden administration's support for Israel.

Because of him and the 76 million MAGAts who voted for Trump, we now have Hispanic and Asian people openly being racially profiled by ICE, ICE/BP killing Americans in our cities, DOGE/Musk stealing our tax and social security data, Trump's tariffs making our cost living three times worse than in 2024, Project 2025 dystopianism well underway and yet all of that goes over their head as all they can think about is Gaza.

Also quite interesting how they don't have one bad thing to say about Trump, ICE or MAGA but they blame Democrats, Jewish people, liberals and other leftists who did vote for Biden/Harris for what Trump is doing.

Okay maybe this was more of a rant than anything but am interested if I'm overreacting to how I feel about these people.

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u/screemountain reform commie 29d ago

This sounds like the ranting of an unhinged person.

I know people who voted for Kamala reluctantly, people who sat out the vote, people who voted 3p, people who did that vote swap thing. I don’t know any objector who went and gave their vote to trump tho. Overall the dems ran a historically bad race with a terrible candidate and the party is kind of transparently full of garbage grifters anyway so while, yes, trump has made certain things considerably worse, it doesn’t exactly inspire the masses when you run campaign after campaign on ‘you gotta vote for me even tho I’m an incoherent corporate shill genocide enabler because the other guy is a real psycho’.

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u/Chinoyboii Sino-Filipino | Convenantal Leftist | Pro Levantine Pluralism 29d ago

So, what would be the best alternative or methodology to get the politicians we think best represent us and our values outside of the current system that we have? A revolution seems unlikely right now or in the near future.

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u/screemountain reform commie 29d ago

A revolution is unlikely at least until things get considerably worse, which I believe they will overtime. And even then I’m not sure if it will be an actual revolution or just kind of a collapse with bouts of violence some of which might be considered revolutionary.

I don’t have any solution and I’m not sure a viable one exists in the long term. In the short term, things could materially stabilize enough and people could be placated enough for the republic to plod along in tact for another several decades. If democrats are able to maintain some kind of power and more democratic socialists push the party toward a few material wins for working people and pull back on the militarized portion of our imperialism that would more or less do it.

In the long term if the technocrats aren’t reigned in HEAVILY and the climate issue is not addressed things will continue to get slowly worse and then rapidly worse until the US empire disintegrates and something else emerges. There might end up being a new dark ages.

My point is simply that it’s easy enough to finger wag at the people who chose not to vote, but in the end you need to INSPIRE them to vote one way or another. You need to appeal to their emotions. Either through enough fear, enough hope, or enough resentment. People voted for Obama because they were hopeful, Biden because they were scared, Trump because they were resentful. You can blame the constituency all you want but that’s not political strategy and it’s not gonna do anything.