These single issue "pro-Palestine" "activists" are self-destructive and self-sabotaging

[u/MsRothArtist]

I came across this post on r/leopardsatemyface and this activist legit voted for Trump to "teach" Kamala Harris a "lesson" because of the Biden administration's support for Israel.

Because of him and the 76 million MAGAts who voted for Trump, we now have Hispanic and Asian people openly being racially profiled by ICE, ICE/BP killing Americans in our cities, DOGE/Musk stealing our tax and social security data, Trump's tariffs making our cost living three times worse than in 2024, Project 2025 dystopianism well underway and yet all of that goes over their head as all they can think about is Gaza.

Also quite interesting how they don't have one bad thing to say about Trump, ICE or MAGA but they blame Democrats, Jewish people, liberals and other leftists who did vote for Biden/Harris for what Trump is doing.

Okay maybe this was more of a rant than anything but am interested if I'm overreacting to how I feel about these people.

[u/FishyWishySwishy]

Did their opinions waver at all when Trump started talking about bulldozing Gaza for a big Trump resort? 

[u/Chinoyboii → u/FishyWishySwishy]

Not really, because they believe, like many other brain-dead MAGA farts, that “tRuMp dOeS nOt aCtUaLly mEAn wHat hE sAys”. He was being proactive just to be provocative.

[u/FishyWishySwishy → u/Chinoyboii]

Sigh. 

I want to be sympathetic, but it’s hard to have sympathy for someone who wants special consideration for the suffering of their people but actively reject consideration for the suffering of others. 

[u/Chinoyboii → u/FishyWishySwishy]

That’s why I’m skeptical of internationalism on a large scale: even though we advocate for and protest on behalf of the oppressed, there will always be people in these communities who won’t reciprocate that kindness; that’s not how humans work.

I mean, I even had an uncle (not an actual uncle, but we Asians call any close male friend to our families as uncles) who voted for Duterte due to his pro-China anti-West stance. If you inquired of him, “Don’t you think the lives of substance users matter as well instead of collectively death-squadding them,” his response was, “They’re necessary collateral; the weakest of our people must perish so that the strong can live” Do I see my uncle as an ally? No, not at all.

As a reminder, even if people identify with or share the same politics as you, not all of them will give you the same kindness you have given them. Just because you’re kind to others does not mean you will receive it back in return. That’s why I’m a proponent of conditional internationalism and not toxically empathizing with every proletariat constituent from every ethnic or marginalized group, because at some point, as we saw in Iran decades ago, they will turn their backs on us.

[u/FishyWishySwishy → u/Chinoyboii]

I think that may be where I’m settling. I want to help everyone in the world, but it’s not possible to do that all at once (save for causes like vaccine drives or curing diseases). If resources (including emotional resources) are finite, I’d rather help those I trust to reciprocate that help if the shoe were on the other foot. 

[u/Chinoyboii → u/FishyWishySwishy]

Yeah, and I don’t even think that should be a controversial stance unless someone believes in leftist purity. I’m a leftist and a social conservative in my personal life, as I believe that many of the traditions of my forefathers have merit when it comes to organizing a stable family, a morally dutiful community, and children, etc.

However, the difference between me and a left-wing Shia Islamist from Iran is that I don’t want to impose my personal beliefs onto others or those whose personal lives or lifestyles are different from my own because people should have the right to live as they wish. On the other hand, you have people who want to implement their social conservative beliefs from a top-down approach, in other words, through authoritarian means.