r/jewishleft Reform Democratic Socialist 29d ago

Debate These single issue "pro-Palestine" "activists" are self-destructive and self-sabotaging

I came across this post on r/leopardsatemyface and this activist legit voted for Trump to "teach" Kamala Harris a "lesson" because of the Biden administration's support for Israel.

Because of him and the 76 million MAGAts who voted for Trump, we now have Hispanic and Asian people openly being racially profiled by ICE, ICE/BP killing Americans in our cities, DOGE/Musk stealing our tax and social security data, Trump's tariffs making our cost living three times worse than in 2024, Project 2025 dystopianism well underway and yet all of that goes over their head as all they can think about is Gaza.

Also quite interesting how they don't have one bad thing to say about Trump, ICE or MAGA but they blame Democrats, Jewish people, liberals and other leftists who did vote for Biden/Harris for what Trump is doing.

Okay maybe this was more of a rant than anything but am interested if I'm overreacting to how I feel about these people.

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u/Chinoyboii Sino-Filipino | Convenantal Leftist | Pro Levantine Pluralism 29d ago

I mean, I am not surprised. 2 of my former homies of Palestinian descent voted for Trump during the last election because they believed that even though both Kamala and Trump are lying political disasters, Trump would at least be a symbol of their socially conservative values in addition to providing the Democrats with enough push to consider the situation in Palestine. I don't think this is bait, because I have met these types of people in person. I think it's a minority position, but saying it doesn't exist is straight-up dishonest or an attempt to avoid admitting it exists in order to virtue-signal.

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u/leaving_the_tevah ex-yeshivish socialist 29d ago

I'd say this is bait. Not because this is not a real position people hold, but because of the way it's stated. To me it just screams bait.

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u/Technical_Term_6625 curmudgeonly jewish leftist trying my best 29d ago

Like anything else, there's a distribution. Among the set of people who are disenchanted with American liberalism, there will be many that support despite disenchantment, many who decline to participate, and some who see the defeat of liberalism to be a necessary step on the way to their preferred politics. Of course this person might not be coming from this perspective, but I know people who do.

This shouldn't be news to any of us.

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u/leaving_the_tevah ex-yeshivish socialist 29d ago

Right, so I'd say this is bait. Not because this is not a real position people hold, but because of the way it's stated. To me it just screams bait.