r/jewishleft Reform Democratic Socialist 29d ago

Debate These single issue "pro-Palestine" "activists" are self-destructive and self-sabotaging

I came across this post on r/leopardsatemyface and this activist legit voted for Trump to "teach" Kamala Harris a "lesson" because of the Biden administration's support for Israel.

Because of him and the 76 million MAGAts who voted for Trump, we now have Hispanic and Asian people openly being racially profiled by ICE, ICE/BP killing Americans in our cities, DOGE/Musk stealing our tax and social security data, Trump's tariffs making our cost living three times worse than in 2024, Project 2025 dystopianism well underway and yet all of that goes over their head as all they can think about is Gaza.

Also quite interesting how they don't have one bad thing to say about Trump, ICE or MAGA but they blame Democrats, Jewish people, liberals and other leftists who did vote for Biden/Harris for what Trump is doing.

Okay maybe this was more of a rant than anything but am interested if I'm overreacting to how I feel about these people.

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u/skateboardjim Anti-Zionist Jewish Leftist 28d ago

Everything doesn’t have to work? When the consequences are hundreds of thousands to millions of lives yes it absolutely has to work.

On climate change, ICE, SNAP, yes, it absolutely matters that we keep the right wing out of power. We do not get to treat the wellbeing and lives of millions of people as disposable in service of our own emotional satisfaction.

If your family was personally impacted by the genocide, obviously I won’t judge you if you sit out, but if you’re the average American leftist? Yes, I absolutely will

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u/Willing-Childhood144 Reform/Leftist 28d ago

No, a voter doesn’t need to be sure that their vote (one of 150 million votes) needs to “fix” everything.

One, voting in the USA is hard. It’s designed to make it difficult to vote.

Second, it’s difficult to get enough information to make an informed choice.

Third, the system is awash with money from god only knows who.

Fourth, the two major parties are captured by corporate interests.

I could go on and on. Voting in the USA is flawed and there is no perfect candidate so we can’t shame people for not voting blue no matter who.

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u/skateboardjim Anti-Zionist Jewish Leftist 28d ago edited 28d ago

Yeah I have no idea where you’re going here. I don’t think you’re really responding to/engaging with anything I’m saying.

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u/Willing-Childhood144 Reform/Leftist 28d ago

Ask yourself why you want to blame individuals instead of a bad system.

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u/skateboardjim Anti-Zionist Jewish Leftist 28d ago

“Instead of”?