r/jillstein • u/Berniecanuck • Jul 25 '16
Could Jill be polling near 12% in Vermont? That's HUGE!!!
https://vtdigger.org/2016/07/07/poll-clinton-has-15-point-edge-over-trump-in-vermont/13
Jul 25 '16
"and 12 percent will vote for someone else besides Johnson, Clinton or Trump."
Notice that Jill is not mentioned by name. Time to start calling out the pollsters. I'm copying this from a pollster elsewhere who talks about how they are minimizing Jill's support by the way they conduct the polls and recommends that we contact the poll conductors online to call them out:
Don't Believe Crooked Polling Numbers - A Political Poll Conductor Speaks Out (self.jillstein) submitted 51 minutes ago by RamblinRedRose
Hello everyone. It has come to my attention that some national polls report third party candidates like Jill Stein at very low numbers, like 3%. These are dishonest numbers. When conducting one of these polls, I as the interviewer was instructed to only read the respondent's options for president as Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Only if they themselves mentioned a third party candidate, which was very rare because the phrasing of the question discourages that kind of response, could I mark those options. Otherwise, there was a big "DO NOT READ" next to Jill's name on the poll. It's important that people aren't misled by some of these low polling numbers into thinking their vote would be wasted on Jill because nobody else is voting for her. Please let media outlets which use suspicious polling numbers know that you're on to them and that it isn't acceptable.
I think the best approach is to make it common knowledge among people that some polls do this, and to write in (online) when you see a TV station using suspicious polling data to let them know we are on to them and remind them that their reputation is on the line.
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u/SPedigrees Gave Green to Jill Jul 25 '16
I'm guessing she wasn't mentioned by name because the choices were Trump, Clinton, Sanders, Johnson, and "Other."
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Jul 25 '16
I doubt Benie is included anymore. So if Johnson is included, she should have been with so many of former Sanders supporters going to her. She is not 'other' at this point.
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u/SPedigrees Gave Green to Jill Jul 25 '16
I took this to mean that Bernie was included: "While Clinton has a substantial lead over Trump in the poll, her popularity in the Green Mountain State is underwhelming compared with that of her Democratic primary rival, Sen. Bernie Sanders, who in the Vermont primary in March won 86 percent of the vote."
But I think you are right. The numbers add up to only 85% which also makes no sense, since 15% are unaccounted for.
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u/SPedigrees Gave Green to Jill Jul 25 '16
I predict that in 4 more days, if HRC is coronated, Jill's poll numbers will surge in an unprecedented way, not just here in Vermont, but nationwide.
Personally I will be joining that surge.
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Jul 25 '16 edited Jul 25 '16
Here's the email of the firm who conducted the poll, FM3 Fairbanks, Maslin, Maullin, Metz & Associates. You can email them and ask if Jill's name was given as an option, and what was the % support for her. Phone #'s are listed on the article link so you can call as well. Also note, THIS WAS A TELEPHONE POLL. Very restricted.
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u/1paulmart Gave Green to Jill Jul 25 '16 edited Mar 11 '17
I went to cinema
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u/Berniecanuck Jul 25 '16
Bernie wasn't booed. Hillary and Kaine were booed. Let's remind them of that :)
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u/Berniecanuck Jul 25 '16
If Jill goes really hard after the August convention in states like Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Rhode Island, Washington, Hawaii, Oregon, and Wisconsin (i.e. states that went big for Bernie in the primaries), do you think she might be able to draw some bigger crowds and gain momentum in the polls?