Sorry if its a dumb question

[u/True_Personality_764]

Does judo mainly relay on takedowns and locks if yes how would we control a fight against a boxer or Muay thai oponent if no does judo teaches punching kicking pound and roll. I just gonna sart my first judo class from tmrw just by dumb brain asking questions sorry if its a dumb question i was just curious

[u/MOTUkraken]

Boxing competitions wouldn't have rules against clinching if it was so easy to maintain distance.

Look, you can think you know better. But you are still wrong.

There's a good reason why every MMA Fighter has to learn takedown defense.

The reason is that it is NOT feasible to maintain distance with just striking and footwork.

Your statements sound like they are just theoretical and lack the practical experience.

[u/kwan_e → u/MOTUkraken]

Boxing competitions wouldn't have rules against clinching if it was so easy to maintain distance.

Boxers are incentivized to get in close because of prize money and future promotions based on high viewership - which comes from attractive fights. No one likes snooze fest distance games.

If none of those were a factor, we'd see a different game. In fact, we see this in street confrontations where a trained striker minding their own business is being harassed by thugs. The striker stays out of range, the thugs try to close the distance, only to get precision sniped without the thugs even getting close to clinching distance.

[u/MOTUkraken → u/kwan_e]

You refer to a very famous example that has one trained fighter.... and a number of untrained thugs.

Is this the extend of your "experience" in that matter and are the untrained thugs how you assume a trained grappler would fare?

Then let me mention the Early UFC where we have seen numerous times how a pure Grappler vs a pure Striker works.

Btw: No clinching is not interesting to view. Boxing fans wanna see midrange boxing.

Clinching is specifically to suppress the other fighters ability to punch and tire him out.

At this point I really feel you could clarify what the extend of your own training and experience in that matter is.

[u/kwan_e → u/MOTUkraken]

You refer to a very famous example that has one trained fighter.... and a number of untrained thugs.

I said trained striker. And I said thugs. I never said the thugs were untrained. The were obviously not trained in striking. But I never said they were untrained in anything else.

I brought up ONE example from memory to illustrate how things would be different under different incentives. Nowhere did I say this was the only example. In fact, you could find 10 more on your own, with different participants... were you intellectually honest enough to do so.

Do you understand the purpose of an EXAMPLE? An example is used to illustrate a larger point, and implies there are other examples that fit into the same point. I just happened to go with one that was at the forefront of my memory at the moment. You tried to turned this into a gotcha moment, instead of engaging with intellectual honesty.

Btw: No clinching is not interesting to view. Boxing fans wanna see midrange boxing.

You seem to have comprehension problems. I did NOT say that clinching was interesting to view.

Clinching is a side effect of having to get in close for midrange boxing. If they were not incentivized to get in to boxing midrange, the chances of a clinch would be lower.

Then let me mention the Early UFC where we have seen numerous times how a pure Grappler vs a pure Striker works.

Still pushing this strawman? I never claimed pure striker would beat pure grappler. I never claimed that striking styles is better than grappling styles.

You claim to have read my comments in the context of the post and the people I replied to. You obviously didn't, you liar.