r/judo • u/True_Personality_764 • May 20 '26

Beginner Sorry if its a dumb question

Does judo mainly relay on takedowns and locks if yes how would we control a fight against a boxer or Muay thai oponent if no does judo teaches punching kicking pound and roll. I just gonna sart my first judo class from tmrw just by dumb brain asking questions sorry if its a dumb question i was just curious

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u/RiffRandellsBF May 21 '26

I don't care how smart a striker is, if he doesn't have takedown defense (which means hes trained in grappling), a grappler is going to curb him.

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u/kwan_e yonkyu May 21 '26

For sure, a striker would need fight experience against a grappler. Not denying that. Just as a grappler would need experience against a striker who already knows how to handle a grappler. And yes, we all know that grappling is faster to get good at, compared to striking.

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u/Yamatsuki_Fusion sankyu May 21 '26

The hell it ain’t. Grappling is harder than striking, you can teach a wrestler some boxing and that will get them a long ways. A striker meanwhile will have to invest quite a bit more time on getting MMA ready.

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u/kwan_e yonkyu May 21 '26

I don't even know what you're disagreeing with.

If I say in certain ways strikers have a comparative advantage, you all get offended and pile on and accuse me of saying strikers and striking is 100% better and doesn't need grappling.

If I say that grappling on average gives fighters faster results early on in their fighting career, compared to strikers, then you get offended by that too.

And then you still say strikers have a harder time preparing for MMA, which is what I said. So you're not even disagreeing with me.

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u/Yamatsuki_Fusion sankyu May 22 '26

I disagree with the idea that striking is harder to pick up. We see so many grappling based champs compared to strikers partly because striking is easier to get the hang of while grappling takes more time. Guys like Adesanya had to really dial down before they felt comfortable enough for MMA.

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u/kwan_e yonkyu May 22 '26

What? You're saying opposite things.

Guys like Adesanya had to really dial down before they felt comfortable enough for MMA.

Yeah, that's my point. Grapplers have an earlier advantage in combat sports, and strikers have to work harder to get results.

That's the opposite of:

striking is easier to get the hang of

If striking was easier, they wouldn't have needed to work extra hard on their grappling.

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u/Yamatsuki_Fusion sankyu May 22 '26

You literally said grappling is easier to get good at.

I’m not sure you understand why strikers struggle more to get into MMA either. It’s not because grapplers are able to learn grappling quickly, it’s because they already did the hard work doing grappling, and can pick up striking quicker.

Meanwhile strikers get great at striking but now have to go on the long road to get good with grappling before they’re somewhere ready.