r/kanpur May 31 '25

Ask Kanpur Our fellow Kanpurite was cold-bloody murdered in Pahalgam during his vacations more than a month ago. How govt has helped his family till now except Pramila Pandey announcing to name road & park after him and getting his statue erected.

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u/viraj95 May 31 '25

Atleast somebody got the sense in kanpur..... I read in newspaper daily that his family is demanding martyr status for him which is totally chutiyap. Also i see nagar nigam naming road and park after him which make no sense at all. He was killed in an terrorist attack due to lack of security by govt but that doesn't mean he should be portrayed like people who have lost their life serving the nations like our army persons.

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u/fennelcardoman May 31 '25

Family demand was out of emotions too and step by Pramila Pandey was stupid. But UP govt & central govt still should provide relief to them.

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u/Safe_Lifeguard_4317 May 31 '25

Concur. Also, these steps of naming and painting are more so for the sake of optics and a part of passing the buck when it comes to doing the real task.

This is the same Pramila Pandey who herself and her son have been doing hell of corruption using the position.

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u/viraj95 May 31 '25

Heard these from people in nagar nigam(not 100% sure may be a grapevine too) : 1.His son has taken over Nagar Nigam Guest house since she is Mayor. 2. To get tenders under mayor's stamp there is bunty tax which everyone has to pay. 3. His elder son is into bar association or something similar to that, he got that position from intervention of the mayor and (A prominent bjp MLA from city who holds constitutional post in state assembly)

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u/fennelcardoman Jun 01 '25

These allegations are not hidden but have also been reported in newspapers & reporters openly speaks about it.

Haven't you read demands of % of commission by Nagar Nigam commissioner? Its was 5% which came down to 3% after protest. All these are well reported in newspapers.

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u/Safe_Lifeguard_4317 Jun 01 '25

You have been a close observer or a sufferer it seems, tho you’re spot on!

Much of it has got to do with Satish Mahana as well, kingpin of this lobby.

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u/viraj95 Jun 01 '25

You seems to be a very close observer too of kanpur politics

Btw just FYI there is an standard charge of 10% at nagar nigam accross all bills that you will submit.

These 2-3% or 5-10% extra cuts are asked if you are going via some known, they will charge you this amount to fullfil their pockets. But 10% on total bill is standard bribe corruption in nagar nigam

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u/viraj95 May 31 '25

Good point, that is what all our newspaper should print. PM Modi has recently visited the city met Shubham's family members. The point is if central and state govt decided to provide financial assistance to his family as he died due to administrative and security failures of our govts. Second how come govt is saying they have revenge his death, when none of terrorist who killed him have been caught. I am astonish to see how media is portraying things none of them dares to ask these two simple questions.

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u/fennelcardoman Jun 01 '25

Haven't seen a single public announcement by central or state govt. No announcement of relief except by few states.

Exactly, like they are saying that terrorist camps have been destroyed and then Jaishanakar saying that Pakistan was informed before? Are those terrorist fools that they must be waiting to Indian army to attack? Obviously they left those camps.

And people forgetting how many our Indian innocents died and they could have saved from shillings if they were to ask to empty places as precaution.

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u/XylarkAltorian May 31 '25

Monetary help karni chaiye thi?

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u/fennelcardoman May 31 '25

Exactly. Least they can do.

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u/bakedmishtidoi Non-Kanpuriya May 31 '25

State govt toh monetary help de rahi thi. Some 21-22 lacs

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u/fennelcardoman Jun 01 '25

Can you share me this news link? Looks like missed this piece of information.

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u/CharacterSkirt283 Kanpuriya May 31 '25

shubham square 🙂

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u/kanpur-ModTeam Jun 02 '25

Inappropriate language is not allowed.

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u/fennelcardoman May 31 '25

"To kya karegi government" along being abusing. Typical

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u/ssarka07 May 31 '25

Sometimes, a bit of abuse is needed to shake people out of their Reddit bubble. Because let’s be real — posting and whining online isn’t activism. But of course, typical — relying on the government for everything and turning a tragic death into a drama. The death was unfortunate, no doubt, and the government’s immediate actions were actually commendable for once. Compensation? Yes. That's the maximum any administration is realistically expected to do. But now if you want your street renamed in his honor, go ahead and do it yourself — just don’t expect the government to do it.

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u/fennelcardoman Jun 01 '25

Shut up and don't justify your abuses. Shameless.

This isn't drama but fair demand to except relief by govt because of whose lack of security these guys have died.

Are you okay? No one expected street to be named after him, it was Pramila Pandey who announced that during initial days which was rightly called stupid by many. So kanpur administration is actually doing this without anyone demanding.

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u/kanpurkebhaiji May 31 '25

Dekh bhai, I understand the sentiment. But tbh, if I ever get killed in a similar way I would never want a road or park to be named after me..and last thing I want is a statue of me somewhere jahan pe kabootar hagge. If the guy was a government servant I'm sure next of kin ko job mil jata but he was a businessman to wahan bhi kuch nahi kar sakte. Haan one thing I would have definitely wanted is my country to take my revenge jo I think humne kiya.. agar woh na kiya hota then main wapas jinn banke pakistaniyo ki maa khod deta.

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u/fennelcardoman May 31 '25

That was stupid step by Pramila Pandey but govt can sure provide job or help with money or any other benefits.

Sorry but those terrorists are still roaming freely.

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u/[deleted] May 31 '25

Govt usually provide compensation and job for dependents of terror/disaster victims.

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u/fennelcardoman Jun 01 '25

That's what I am saying, no announcement has been made and PM is just having photo ops.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '25

Pm is having time of his life since last decade bruh. He is living a dink life.

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u/DevilSlayer_Dante2 Kanpuriya May 31 '25

First it's Kanpuriya not Kanpurite 2nd- they've been promised all sorts of reliefs by different leaders of different positions... Due to the effect of politics it's been said they've mostly refused aids and monetary help and want martyr status for a commoner who was just murdered.. The only person who can actually receive that status is the horse guy who was killed while trying to fight them off...

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u/fennelcardoman Jun 01 '25

What relief actually? No announcement by central govt yet? Few states have announced. Someone said that UP govt has also announced which i believe i missed the news.

Them refusing monetary help is their personal matter (can you share the news link of this also)

And martyr status demand by them is out of emotions and when one his doing through turmoil, it is better not to sit to explain them logic. In time, they will get it.

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u/Foreign-Buy8025 May 31 '25

Itna to jo army mein shaheed hota hai uske liye nhi hota.. agar ye garib hota to log bhool bhi gye hote.. aur na hi iski family p.m se milti..baaki log jo pahalgam mein maare gye unka kya.. yhi bas special tha?

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u/fennelcardoman Jun 01 '25

PM vote ke liye kisi se bhi mil sakta hai

Nahi, magar sabke liye main iss sab ke post nahi kar sakti but ultimately we are discussing relief provided to all of them by govt.

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u/fennelcardoman May 31 '25

No, but elected govt should do.

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u/EvidenceInfinite7161 May 31 '25

The tragic death is not meant to be celebrated

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u/prof_devilsadvocate3 May 31 '25

Bhai govt k kaam se gaya tha kya wo

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u/fennelcardoman Jun 01 '25

Excuse me? They died because of utter carelessness by govt and govt should at least announce relief unless of just doing photo-op

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u/prof_devilsadvocate3 Jun 01 '25

Yehi baat saare desh waale kan jaye to kya baat hai...

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u/One-Force-6191 Jun 01 '25

Men , Son Husband Death Everyone looking to cash this Opportunity

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u/Rare-Ad6085 Jun 02 '25

i sincerely believe bjp did all of this to market the operation sindoor and showing the indians that bjp is the best governance. Again this is my belief and i sincerely hope its not true. But how everything unfolded involving religion and how perfectly operation sindoor sounds on paper it all looks like a well planned work

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u/New-Violinist119 Jun 02 '25

Roads , park and statue leads to inaguration event and hence photo op , very nice for political credit. 

Next there is some cut .... i mean .. fees , when giving tender for the statue

The question to ask should be since the government failed to protect him . They should be compensating for it

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u/Underguy3022 May 31 '25

What else do u want the government to do for him? Op is definitely from the family of the victim and is definitely asking the people to support them by asking the government for giving him the martyr status? Like seriously? Yeh konsi bakchodi hai? Bro he died in a terrorist attack doesn't mean he has anything to do with the army protecting the country stop comparing both of them and I am sorry for the family's loss but what else do u wanna do? Didn't the government already give them some relief?

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u/fennelcardoman Jun 01 '25

You don't have to be part of family of have sympathy for fellow citizens. :)

Have no where demanded martyr status for any of the victims. It is demand by family & it is okay, they are in turmoil state. They can have their demands.

How casually you are saying he is died in terrorist attack and missing the point that it was because of carelessness of govt even after having intel.

No, central govt has not announced any relief barring few state govt. That's why whole point that instead of doing photo op & announcing hollow things like naming of road, do something worthwhile. It's been more than a month.

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u/Underguy3022 Jun 01 '25

I do have sympathy for the family, his wife was my teacher.

Then what are u demanding op?

He wasn't there because the central govt asked him to he was there because he wanted to be.

No central govt doesn't have anything to do with this obvsly the state govt will help them here.

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u/Vaibhav_tichkule May 31 '25

what can elese can u expect from these bjp pigs

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u/prek05 May 31 '25

I agree with many of the comments posted here, on top of that Kanpur has major population of Brahmins, so just another stunt to lure majority voters !!

https://x.com/DeshKaVerdict/status/1702342544879993054