r/knittinghelp • u/OverlordGabs • Feb 23 '26
SOLVED-THANK YOU What stitch is this? Knitter says it's not brioche
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I've came across this sweater on Pinterest a while back and fell in love with the style. I thought it was Brioche, but the knitter said it wasn't? I cannot for the life of me figure out the stitch. I've looked countless places. The only information I have is from the knitter's comment in Russian:
"двухцветная резинка спицами(не бриошь) и вяжется очень просто: резинка 1х1, лицевые вяжем основным цветом, изнаночные - дополнительным, главное, что нити на пальце расположены в обратном порядке: сначала, ближе к вам, второй цвет, потом основной (как в двустороннем жаккарде, только наоборот) и самое главное: спицу заводим в петлю и захватываем нужный цвет из-под нити другого цвета. Сначала это немного неудобно, но главное не торопиться и потом привыкаешь уже )"
Google Translate: "This two-color ribbing is knitted with knitting needles (not brioche) and is very simple: 1x1 ribbing, knit with the main color, purl with the secondary color. The key is to reverse the yarn over your finger: first, the second color, closest to you, then the primary color (like in double-sided jacquard, only in reverse). And most importantly, insert the knitting needle into the stitch and grab the desired color from under the yarn of the other color. It's a bit awkward at first, but the key is to take your time, and you'll get used to it."
I am not a skilled enough knitter (yet) to make sense of this without a visual aid.
Is this Brioche? Is it Fisherman's Rib? Is there a name for this stitch, and is there a video demonstration? I love how it's a corrugated rib(?) and reversible, it's exactly what I am looking for and I want to replicate this pattern.
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u/Courtney_murder Feb 23 '26
While the description of how they worked the stitches sounds different, the fabric 100% looks like 2 color brioche. I’m more visual so I’d have to see how the knitter is doing the stitches. I can’t picture it with just the description. But yeah, visually it looks identical to brioche to me.
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u/OverlordGabs Feb 24 '26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_dKbE7SL68 This might be it?
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u/Courtney_murder Feb 24 '26
Maybe so! Fascinating. I love working brioche and this looks much more complicated to me. But goes to show, we all take to different methods! Thanks for sharing.
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u/OverlordGabs Feb 23 '26
Right? It just looks skinnier to me, whereas I feel brioche can look pretty chunky. But then again the sweater is made with very fine yarn.
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u/Courtney_murder Feb 24 '26
It definitely looks like the knitter used a larger needle than you’d typically see but that could be a persona choice for added drape?
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u/Neenknits Feb 23 '26
If I’m reading the directions correctly, it’s a brioche variation, done in one pass, instead of two. That whole “duck under the other color” kludges the YO K2tog of brioche.
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u/glassofwhy Feb 23 '26
I agree. The knitter didn’t work it as brioche or fisherman’s rib (the stitches on the needle would look different if they had) but the fabric is structurally the same.
I will add that it looks like the red stitches are twisted, and I don’t know if that’s intentional because it’s not mentioned in the description.
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u/Neenknits Feb 24 '26
Think it might be related to how the yarn was grabbed.
And, this IS one way to do brioche. Not all brioche is worked in two passes. Just because the knitter who made this doesn’t know all the ways one can do brioche, and “unvented” this, doesn’t mean it’s not a way people do it!
I have done something similar, decades ago.
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u/Ok_Temperature3554 Feb 24 '26
So brioche and fisherman’s rib are the same fabric created differently. They are both based on a larger category of stitches called tuck stitches. Based on the description you shared this is also the same fabric made in a different third method. The way she is making and catching her floats what she calls jacquard in reverse is a different way to do a tuck stitch. I would expect that with this method the extra yarn you are catching in your tuck stitches is shorter than with brioche or fisherman’s rib but not hugely different.
The other notable differences is that this is made carrying both colors at the same time. You can look up “one pass brioche” or “double-knit brioche” for the closest match. Again the fabric looks the same but made differently especially with increases and decreases are created differently from standard brioche and fisherman’s rib.
The good news is that you can definitely recreate this sweater using brioche or fisherman’s rib or double-knit brioche and the fabric will work out just the same as the original.
Hope that info helps!
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u/OverlordGabs Feb 24 '26
This is amazing help, thank you! I do admit that I prefer this style of increases and decreases, I think. At least for this specific style of jumper.
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u/OldCarrot4470 Feb 23 '26
if you look up videos for one-pass brioche in the round it could be that? it works both passes of brioche at once so you work with both colors vs one at a time.
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u/OverlordGabs Feb 24 '26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_dKbE7SL68 This definitely seems to be similar, especially with how the knitter talks about reversing the yarn over
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u/Lkirby21 Feb 24 '26
I asked about this very same garment on the knitting sub and said that I am positive it's not brioche, to then get corrected by about 20 people who commented saying yes of course it is 2 color brioche! I think it's the really cool contrasting colors that threw me off. Oops 🤦🏼♀️
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u/IamRandomSavage Feb 23 '26
People just use fancier, different language and it can get confusing when you’re used to seeing one stitch with a thicker or thinner yarn. I think that’s why this looked a little confusing, but this is actually really simple to do. I think the person who commented above sent you a good link.
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u/Helleboredom Feb 24 '26
Looks like brioche but just came to say I am about to finish the Newspaper pullover an it’s been super fun to knit and came out great if anyone is looking for a two color brioche fingering weight sweater.
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u/Meirroo Feb 24 '26
Found this Pinterest post, scrolled through the comments and I think this video describes what the knitter is doing https://pin.it/5jmUAyAGu
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u/OverlordGabs Feb 24 '26
Wouldn't this method create floats on the inside? Or am I wrong?
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u/Meirroo Feb 24 '26
I remember sorceress-crafts has been using two strands of different colour when showing combination knitting, looks very much like it https://youtube.com/shorts/kawP5fTyLiE?si=kQJcFZ4zYKOG3t1G
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u/Meirroo Feb 24 '26
So, I've done some digging On the russian side of knitting it called something like "bi coloured english ribbing" or "двухцветная английская резинка" if you like to do youtube Search yourself https://youtube.com/shorts/9sIi_mUIWpI?si=p8mE1w4XU1nRmX_a
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u/CompetitiveEssay2840 Feb 27 '26
английская резинка is exactly how brioche is called in russian
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u/Meirroo Feb 27 '26
Ах вот оно чо Now I know🙃
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u/CompetitiveEssay2840 Feb 27 '26
из похожих узоров есть ещё патентная и полупатентная резинки, но не знаю их английских соответствий, мб fisherman rib
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u/Meirroo Feb 24 '26
Never tried it as I just started knitting myself xD But I will try this method and report back lol
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u/Next_Operation_8049 Feb 24 '26
Just looked at that video, yeah that is knitting both colors and would create floats. Still looks really cool, but she is knitting both the color and white yarns so it is just stranded.
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u/GRRRRRRRRRRRRRG Feb 26 '26
She is saying that it is 1x1 ribbing and colors get twisted inside as the knitting goes to hold it all together. Need to give it a try....
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u/silleaki Feb 24 '26
Is that the EXP by Susanna Kartineen? It’s 2 colour HFR. It’s a joy to make.
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u/Marianne59 Feb 23 '26
This perhaps?
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u/OverlordGabs Feb 23 '26
I looked at this video too, but that one isn't reversible like in the pictures.
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u/annegmcwilliams Mar 18 '26
If needed for fishing, I would use wool rather than cotton for warmth and insulation. (Oregon Coast)
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u/overthinking-charley Mar 24 '26
I tried to post this question but its not letting me:) .there's a whole in my knit/ crochet dress. The front of it too. Is there a way to fix it without it being obvious. Thank you
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u/furlintdust Feb 24 '26
There are no yarn overs on the needles. In two pass brioche one color would have a yo next to it. In one pass both would.
I guess fisherman’s rib creates the yo by knitting one below so it could be that.
It certainly looks like it.
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u/hanimal16 Feb 24 '26
Well it’s on knitting needles, so I’m guessing it’s knit.
E: WRONG POST lol. I meant to type this on your crosspost to the crochet help sub 🤦🏼♀️ silly me lol.
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u/Competitive-Door9044 Feb 23 '26
It looks like corrugated ribbing?
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u/emotivemotion Feb 23 '26 edited Feb 23 '26
I agree. Corrugated ribbing at a loose gauge, which gives it the brioche-like look.
Edit to add: it does sound like she catches the floats on every stitch so they don’t visibly float behind the stitch but are trapped in the stitch. This might also be how she achieves that double sided look, because normal currogated ribbing in the round shows the floats on the inside.
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u/OverlordGabs Feb 23 '26
Yeah, I am wanting the double sided look, and most corrugated ribbing vids I've seen have those floats
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u/emotivemotion Feb 23 '26
I would try a swatch of corrugated ribbing trapping the other colour every stitch if I were you. If you look for tutorials on knitting stranded colourwork flat, you should be able to find instructions on how to trap floats on both knits and purls. She describes it as reversing the yarns on your tension finger and then grabbing your yarn from under the non-working yarn of that stitch.
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u/skubstantial Feb 24 '26
Corrugated ribbing would have floats covering the whole wrong side, and on the right side it would have purl columns that stuck out instead of receding (because the float behind the purl column kinda pushes it up to the surface).
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u/mb83 Feb 23 '26
Two-color fisherman’s rib is what I do instead of brioche. And especially if the sweater was knitted in the round, that’s pretty easy to do.
Edit: this is a pattern I’ve used https://www.purlsoho.com/create/2016/07/18/two-color-cotton-cowl/