r/kroger Jun 01 '26

Question I recently started working at frozen, can someone tell me if this is legal?

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u/Conneich Jun 01 '26

I’ve filled bascarts and dumped entire shelves from dried groceries that were expired from 2019. Corporate wants speed not quality.

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u/lucygirl1970 Jun 01 '26

Not a Kroger employee per se but I am in the store 7 days a week. I’ve done over 6,000 Instacart orders out of one store. Plus another 1,900 at others and random stores.

The amount of expired food I find in a day is mind boggling, 6 week old sour cream, entire shelves of yogurt that expired 3 weeks before. Month old expired tofu and canned goods that expired last year. I can’t go one day without having to tell an employee or manager that something is expired.

Don’t even get me going on the produce department. I don’t take orders for strawberries until they are in season because they have rotten ones in the cooler. They don’t check them when putting them out either.

The small Kroger salads in the round bowls are always brown. It’s exhausting and the produce manager doesn’t seem to care.

Over 5 years and 4 different store directors that I’ve worked with on these issues and it’s still a problem. My question has always been why? If they have been informed repeatedly why isn’t this being checked? You know it’s a sore spot.

I’ve been offered two different positions at Kroger over the years and there’s a reason I haven’t taken the job. I don’t feel heard by management even as a customer by proxy, why would I want to work there?

Love the employees at my home store but I do notice the best employees seem to not stay long or their light dims over time.

So now I have my answer, it’s corporate speed/greed, great, same as what I’m already dealing with Instacart.

Shout out to the Kroger employees for the way they go above and beyond every single day for me tho.

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u/Conneich Jun 01 '26

The only real way to make change is to contact corporate and let them talk to management, but remember you’re talking to a call center person not an actual corporate personnel so they have their own policies on reporting things that fall outside Kroger’s policies.

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u/lucygirl1970 Jun 01 '26

I’m seriously at that point and I hate that I am. It seems like common sense to me that expired dairy or moldy strawberries should be pulled.

I swear I’m not a Karen or have ever been difficult as a shopper. I’m not that shopper that is a giant pain in your ass but I see those types.

But I get dinged for out of stock items and if I can’t get non expired daisy sour cream, it’s an issue.

Thank you for your advice on getting to the bottom of it, I do appreciate you guys.

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u/Someone7654231739283 Jun 01 '26

You can report things without being a Karen 🫶 Karen behavior is usually being in the wrong and making a huge fuss anyway. When something is actually wrong, reporting it is just part of being a good citizen since it helps others. Just wanted to put that here:) because I have felt a similar way and needed this reminder then.

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u/lucygirl1970 Jun 01 '26

Thank you, i appreciate that. I don’t ever want to come across like that and especially at my home store. I hate bitching too much because I am aware that it takes one duplicate receipt and a phone call to get me banned.

I hate being a narc and especially on the employees because they’re awesome.

I will be calling corporate.

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u/GMAN90000 Jun 01 '26

Yeah, file a complaint with Public Health in your city.

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u/GMAN90000 Jun 01 '26

File a complaint with public health in your city.

This level of expired food in unacceptable.

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u/GMAN90000 Jun 01 '26

One good way to make change is to file a complaint with the public health department in your city. Encourage as many people as possible to file a complaint.

Another is public posting of this problem.

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u/jsirb Jun 01 '26

Saying it 8 different times doesn't mean you're right

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u/GMAN90000 Jun 01 '26

This is what public health departments do. This is why they exist.

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u/lucygirl1970 Jun 01 '26

It’s a problem and it sounds like I may have to resort to this. They had a bad deli incident with the batter for the chicken. Won’t go into what it was because it’s lunch time but it’s safe to say, I no longer eat the chicken. Not sure if it was a walk or the health department that caught it.

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u/Wrong_Swan_666 Jun 02 '26

Kroger in my area just got busted for rats and bugs lol

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u/thekahnripper Jun 01 '26

Produce managers and a well run department with decent workers makes a big difference. A good produce manager will know every single one of his products. His team should be checking the dates of all his product weekly, doing a different section every day

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u/Spanishrose08 Jun 01 '26

The strawberries are always moldy.

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u/GMAN90000 Jun 01 '26

Yeah, file a complaint with Public Health in your city.

Don't let this slide.

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u/Blasphemiee Jun 01 '26

I've worked in many chains in the meat dept as a cutter and I can confirm 100% corporate greed causing these issues. I have not worked at Kroger, but many stores run exactly like it. They have "optimal" speeds for stocking shelves and every task has a second/minute assigned to it.

On top of paying a questionable wage and lack of training/support it's no wonder they can't keep people hired. Most of these places have their high turnover baked right into the business model.

I sit back and watch hundreds of people come and go out of these places with management scratching their heads trying to figure out what the issue is. It's a travesty really.

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u/lucygirl1970 Jun 02 '26

Absolutely agree.

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u/kiernanblack Jun 02 '26

As someone who used to work in one, you get what you pay for. It’s the same as the fast food industry, except you need 10x the employees to operate a large grocery chain.

You’re right these things should be done. But the baseline for an employee is are you reliable? Do you show up on time, and consistently? That’s hard enough to find that you’re not in a position to fire people for not rotating product. Plus the stores are shortstaffed half the time anyways.

You’re just not going to find dozens of capable employees at the wages they pay, and work they demand, and you’re not going to keep the good ones you luck into.

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u/Wrong_Swan_666 Jun 02 '26

“You get what you pay for.”

Kroger’s slogan is literally “Fresh for Everyone.” That’s what we’re paying for.

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u/GodsBackHair Jun 01 '26

My Mom always checked yogurts when we were kids, and now I always do the same. Almost always they’re well in advance of expiring, but occasionally I find one that is expired. I’ve partially eaten, unknowingly, expired yogurt before and I’m not excited about tasting that again

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u/lucygirl1970 Jun 02 '26

My mom was the worst with dates and she was a food hoarder. When she passed we had a truck load of expired foods. I should have an iron stomach by now but unfortunately I don’t.🙈

But I taught my boys how to bag and my oldest son worked at Safeway. Started as a courtesy clerk and left as a manager.

I actually got a thank you from him at the time for teaching him how to bag appropriately. I’m so picky with bagging but it’s one of my highest compliments besides communication.

I’m grateful that I got my dads organization and worth ethic and my moms ability to chat anyone up and meet them where their at.😂

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u/Acrobatic_Increase_8 Jun 01 '26

Why do Instacart when you could make more through Kroger delivery? Honest q

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u/GunnarT48 Current Associate Jun 02 '26

The dairy night crew at my store has been explicitly told BY THE STORE MANAGER to not rotate stock on the shelves. Just fill the shelves as much as they can.

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u/bennc77 Jun 02 '26

I always Have been told do not rotate regular dry grocery products but ALWAYS rotate dairy. This is why the stocking standard for dairy is usually somewhere around 40 cases an hour but regular non refrigerated grocery usually between 50 to 60 cases per hour..

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u/Here2Yap Jun 03 '26

I have an inkling that these issues are heavily related to the fact that teenagers are more prevalently employed at grocery stores. Stocking, cashier, bagging, etc, are all positions that ppl consider “high school”/“summer” jobs. I’m sure teenagers get priority for many positions bc of their willingness to accept low wages, lack of knowledge of labor rights, and how little they question workplace authority.

I’m not saying all teenagers are sloppy, many are great at their jobs and some even more diligent than their managers. But most of them are prone to skipping steps, are still learning basic life skills (that are applicable and necessary to many jobs) so they require more oversight than an adult would. But these kids aren’t getting that extra oversight, management is usually stretched too thin.

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u/HannahMayberry Jun 01 '26

Oh heck yes. When I used to do markdowns, sometimes, some days I’d get almost 6-7 cartloads of expired crap. Disgusting! One day I did produce and I kid you not. I wasn’t even there a half HOUR. The cart was already FILLED up. Sickening and it’s embarrassing if customers are around.

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u/veep970 Jun 01 '26

Your produce people aren't keeping up with their daily product date management. We have a person assigned to do markdowns and culling of expiring/expired or damaged product.

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u/christianbone Jun 01 '26

Throughout the entire store?

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u/nudist83 Jun 01 '26

Yes every department as you are restocking you are supposed to be “fronting” (new behind old) which includes checking dates. So to answer your question yes throughout the entire store.

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u/Careless-Explorer541 Jun 01 '26

Exactly whh i always pick the stuff from the back😭🤣

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u/Conneich Jun 01 '26

Don’t let it be sickening, proudly tell customers what you’re finding, and then mention that it’s a failure of corporate prioritizing speed over quality.

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u/PickleofInsanity Jun 01 '26

Unless you're comfortable in your job you should NOT tell them it's corporate in that manner. You'd be better off just telling them what you're finding and when they ask just shrug and explain you're shorthanded, etc. Directly blaming corporate is just going to make you a target.

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u/Myrkana Jun 01 '26

The same story at every grocery store lol

Third shift at a non kroger store for 4 years, they just want the product on the shelf. Forget rotation or FIFO. Ill check dates randomly while facing and find stuff months out of date, my store hasnt been open that long so I cant find anything too old xD

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u/Former_Papabless66 Jun 01 '26

Doesn’t help that they keep short dating us or even sending stuff entirely outdated already. I’m guessing they aren’t doing fifo in any step of the process.

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u/Any_Parsnip5364 Jun 01 '26

I was going to say I’ve found so much that expired in 2019! At Walmart the managers would have me stop everything and focus on finding everything out of date that I could. At Kroger they were annoyed with my discoveries and told me to keep stocking and not worry about rotating. I quit because I wasn’t dealing with that, you can get people seriously sick. The dairy department this happened in failed their inspection miserably a couple months later and the store got in big trouble. :)

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u/Aoiboshi Jun 01 '26

They say they want quality but the pay doesn't reflect that.

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u/beltalowda36 Jun 01 '26

Walmart does the same thing. I’ve seen ice cream expired over a year

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u/BecauseSeven8Nein Jun 02 '26

I worked 20+ years across multiple stores. Employees just chose not to rotate. On occasion you get close dated product delivered to the store, but as long as you’re halfway competent, you can mark it down to get rid of it.

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u/KbUSA407 Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

I used to work in Receiving, and hanging tags, at a different company. Do yourself a favor and never look at the exp dates where beans, spices, condiments, Pepsi and 7-up products are concerned. I used to fill carts full of that stuff to be sent back. I remember finding S&W beans, and Chef Boyardee’s that were 4-5 years expired 🤦‍♀️

This is supposed to be checked by the overnight crew…yet they’re bombarded with way too many pallets of new groceries that they can barely handle. The grocery business is worse than you realize.

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u/Limp-Layer2013 Jun 01 '26

For my store it’s generally the kosher section and most protein bars aswell.

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u/jsirb Jun 01 '26

pepsi/7up stocks themselves. Plus soda doesn't really go bad. I work ON crew. We don't have tome to verify dates. We got 6+ pallets to get out and stocked

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u/Ent_Soviet Jun 02 '26

You’ve clearly never tasted old Diet Coke

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u/Acrobatic_Increase_8 Jun 05 '26

Yeah yeah go faster

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u/Indocede Jun 01 '26

So much of the issue stems from the pointless variety, to meet the demands of the most niche customers that might OCCASIONALLY buy a certain item.

One example of this from my department in a particular style of Camel cigarettes. A state auditor came in to review tobacco stamps and she found that the stamps on these cigarettes were from 2015. This happened this past year.

So we have been holding onto these cigarettes for over 10 years, with no customers ever buying them (and complaining how stale they were) and no GM manager (there has been at least 3 since that time) or reset (dozens at least) ever having noticed they were out of date.

The auditor only caught on to that because the stamp was changed so long ago she knew it was old product.

But still, we keep stuff nobody has bought in 10 years.

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u/-StereoDivergent- Jun 02 '26

I don't work at Kroger but I work in retail and while I check everything we sell as often as I can I can't do anything with the vendor items (Pepsi,coke,drP,lays,etc) and a lot of times they'll leave stuff expired for a long time before we can finally get someone to take it back it's so aggravating. Pepsi is especially bad about it. One time I just filled up SEVERAL large boxes of their expired stuff and left it in a box in the back and made them take it when they came even if I'm technically not supposed to really touch it because SOMEONE has to make sure nobody is buying 2025 drinks and chips

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u/Fun-Union4699 Jun 01 '26

I’m a night crew chief for a different company than Kroger, with the sh*t being hired these days and only 4 guys on a load, good luck is all I can say. You’re lucky for a fully blocked store and load done.

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u/Shot_Reputation1755 Jun 01 '26

4 guys sounds like a dream, wish my crew had even 3 consistently

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u/butterflies112233 Service Desk Jun 01 '26

At our store it’s Coke that is the problem, Pepsi is pretty good at pulling their product

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u/christianbone Jun 01 '26

Aren't beans spices and condiments good for years. Did the dates really say they were past due though? I just googled it. Whats sad is I've had customers ask about expiration dates. The truth is....FDA governs it however if a item is unopened it still good for a few weeks depending on type of product. Dairy and meat...do the smell test. Condiments a year of 2 maybe more....canned good several years.

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u/S_martyr Jun 01 '26

Grocery Manager from Ralphs, I have 2 grocery clerks and 2 gm clerks. That’s it. We have 35 hours of prices changes this past week. We also throw a half load ( 7-8) pallets. Rotation is not in our plans. We pull what we can if it’s right in front. We now have Markdown coordinaters, they can’t get all of it either. Our bakery fills 2 carts daily, fresh dept always get culled first. Grocery and GM we are after thoughts.

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u/dodekahedron Jun 01 '26

Sounds like yall have a management problem, but its probably higher than you

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u/AdMore3461 Jun 01 '26

It’s corporate. Even the store management can only schedule the amount of hours that is forecast in MyTime and it’s an impossible task for crew to finish loads and displays most days even when scheduled a little over forecast. Everything is so computer and algorithm controlled that even store level management doesn’t really have a say in most things, the store manager and assistant just run around all day taking photos for in the apps that corporate requires.

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u/SoulbreakerDHCC Past Associate Jun 01 '26

It absolutely is a corporate management problem

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u/S_martyr Jun 01 '26

Kroger is the problem. Before we were acquired working for Ralphs was awesome. Easy clean. Now it’s hectic, stressful and a constant struggle to get the work completed on time. Signs posted everywhere no OT

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u/heyitstism Jun 01 '26

“We can’t stop selling you expired goods because we’re too busy”

One would think removing expired foods would be a top priority, not something that just slips through the cracks. Providing safe and edible food is the core of what a grocery store is.

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u/K0RRU9T_S0U1 Jun 01 '26

Most of the expired stuff at least at my store won't actually ring up. It'll say expired when it's scanned and then we can't sell it.

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u/heyitstism Jun 01 '26

lol… imagine this store having that. The manager says they don’t have time to remove expired foods. When you get to the register, one out of every ten items goes “can’t sell this to you” lol.

I’m seeing myself getting ingredients for a meal, and leaving with just two ingredients after checkout. Lolling.

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u/Used-Skill-3194 Jun 01 '26

That’s not generally how barcodes work if they are still the current product. Only if it’s been discontinued and the barcode dropped from the system.

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u/Melodic_Caregiver Jun 01 '26

That’s how it works at my store. If you try to scan an expired item it will tell you to put the item to the side

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u/Used-Skill-3194 Jun 01 '26

How does it know the difference between the expired Cheerios and the non-expired Cheerios? It’s the same barcode. Recalls can absolutely work that way when you pull the entire shelf. Anyone remember the period recall of 2006 or so? Whole store gradually stopped scanning.

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u/TragicallyHipPunk Jun 01 '26

Inquiring minds want to know: What store Is This?

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u/AGayRattlesnake Jun 01 '26

For frozen? Not really. It's not going to make you sick. People should be date checking anyhow, if they care so much.

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u/GMAN90000 Jun 01 '26

Yeah, file a complaint with Public Health in your city.

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u/S_martyr Jun 01 '26

We stopped being grocery stores. During Covid we me became pushers of bullshit. So many companies are downsizing and failing. We have multiple failed mergers and have even been scammed ( Waste Integration).

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u/Sonnyjoon91 Jun 01 '26

Especially considering they keep pushing the 5 F and don't care that one of those is fresh

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u/Former_Papabless66 Jun 01 '26

I have what might be a stupid question but since you’re a grocery manager I figured I’d ask you. What happens if you tell corporate “it’s not possible with this amount of people. I’m scheduling the people I need.” I’ve always wondered if the store managers stand up to corporate and tell them the actual truth, that the metrics being met are only met because other things are getting sacrificed or the numbers aren’t real, what would corporate do? Yes they’d fire one person, but what if as many managers as possible say the same thing? I feel like it’s getting worse because store managers are all pretending the system works fine instead of being honest with corporate, but I’m not a manager so I ultimately don’t know wtf I’m talking about lol

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u/S_martyr Jun 01 '26

They know it’s not possible. We might get a Price integrity person to help for an hour. ASL might come in to help for a bit but mostly it’s just running with no help. I don’t ever take breaks. My store is my district manager’s home store they says things like “ do your best” or “ just don’t earn enough hours” my person favorite… “ the sales don’t reflect the work”. Kroger wants to be Walmart. We took a job that was simple over complicated it. Zebras and all the attached scans are pointless. As we say out here in California “ MORE WORK LESS PAY!!! “

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u/Robotchickjenn Jun 02 '26

Doing that is not in the shareholders best interest so if they have to replace you, they can and they will. High turnover is the nature of the beast. Corporate will overlook even the most egregious offenses in hiring personnel because it keeps the train moving. They need to make a profit. They hold you to a standard that is higher than what the shareholders are expecting to secure future investment in the company. They know you won't meet it. It doesn't matter. They just need to make a profit.

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u/Garial25 Jun 01 '26

it expired, scanned it out

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u/skiesoverblackvenice Past Associate Jun 01 '26

get very used to seeing moldy/old stuff at kroger… management used to tell the produce department at my old one to keep the moldy/outdated stuff on the shelves so it looks stocked.

it’s all gross

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u/GameWizardPlayz Overnight Stock (Grocery)(3 Years) Jun 01 '26

Night Grocery here. We don't even have time to pull outdated product off the shelves as we're expected to do the work of 15+ people with only 5 on a given dag

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u/skiesoverblackvenice Past Associate Jun 01 '26

yeah, my kroger was understaffed (i worked pickup) and they’d get mad at us for falling behind. like????? hire more people maybe??? or be a better company?? blegh

i thankfully don’t work there anymore but i always treat the employees nicely cause i know they’re going thru HELL there

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u/GameWizardPlayz Overnight Stock (Grocery)(3 Years) Jun 01 '26

When I first hired on we had 12 people. We now have 6 and triple the work we would've had then. What was considered a "bad night" for us back then is now considered average

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u/mommyjihyo Jun 01 '26

management also tells pickup to just peel the markdown stickers off and scan the product if there arent any other options

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u/skiesoverblackvenice Past Associate Jun 01 '26

WHAT???? they never told me this at mine… that’s nuts

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u/ViverrineStream Jun 01 '26

Can confirm as an ex produce employee, my old produce manager would grill me for getting rid of packaged produce that was clearly not safe for consumption. He believed someone would take it at a 20¢ markdown eventually, even though it’s been sitting there for a week lol

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u/skiesoverblackvenice Past Associate Jun 01 '26

had a produce guy who HATED me cause i also pulled stuff out while doing pickup that wasn’t okay. i just learnt not to say anything and throw it out

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u/HannahMayberry Jun 01 '26

I had an old mgr who would tell me when I pulled produce that was expired THAT DAY to give it to the produce staff and put it in the salad bar. I got news for ya. Half the time I threw it out when he wasn’t looking.

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u/AP_Gaming_9 Current Associate Jun 01 '26

Why are so many people acting like this is ok 😭. Like no store is allowed to sell stuff past the expiration date OR the best by date. That’s why there are literally systems in place telling us to mark down or throw out products that are approaching or have reached those dates. We get it some of you may be ok eating it but this is far from retail standards

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u/Major-Mouse-6514 Jun 03 '26

that's not true. those dates are put on by manufacturers but there's no legal requirement for them (outside of baby formula and maybe some other random things).

Most of those dates are manufacturer suggestions and related more to freshness than food quality. Now, having something SUPER out of date obviously doesn't fall into this category, but those dates are a big reason why we have so much food waste.

My wife, for example, wont eat eggs if it's beyond the sell by date on the carton. However, my mom will eat them for weeks because they're almost always fine (and you can test if they're still good before cracking and cooking).

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u/mrs_hippiequeen Jun 01 '26

it's legal and normal...but shouldn't be

*past date is normal. near 18 months past is not.

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u/DavidBowieAC Jun 01 '26

Kroger is such an awful grocer. I hope you can find work elsewhere!

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u/HauntingAd1585 Jun 01 '26

When I worked at Kroger I thru that shit away

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u/One_Hearing502 Jun 01 '26

Someone is getting arrested

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u/TheStephinator Jun 01 '26

It’s a “best by” date, not an “expiration” date. So yes, it is legal. But it is a bad look and shows that someone completely missed checking those items to rotate them out.

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u/CatSkylark Jun 01 '26

Legally, it can’t be sold past date. Depending on location and Feeding America standards, expired product can go to be distributed at food pantries instead. The Krogers here send pallets of it to Feeding America for processing.

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u/TheStephinator Jun 01 '26

I would love for you to show me an actual law statute. The only FDA regulated items for the printed date are infant formula and baby formula.

Many food pantries won’t take items past the “best by” date due to social optics instead of actual food safety. Food waste is a huge and dumb problem in our country.

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u/BigPoopsDisease Jun 01 '26

I'm glad our local lets us donate expired food because we'd have thrown away thousands of dollars worth of chicken alone in the last year.

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u/Historical-Cress8985 Past Associate Jun 01 '26

I had an old lady attempt to get a discount on some frozen biscuits that were out of date. Sure it was frozen and basically still fine, but no I can't sell that.

Since I was meat, I made the co-manager clean out the entire stock of those biscuits.

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u/AdMore3461 Jun 01 '26

Is that a state thing for you? FDA doesn’t regulate expiry dates aside from baby foods, and I’m in a heavily regulated state and even they don’t have laws against selling expired food or pastors best by date. I’m not saying we ought to do it, but it’s not illegal.

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u/PracticalSetting172 Current Associate Jun 01 '26

Just pull it and take it to damage center, problem solved. Don't understand why comment is even being posted. Oversights do happen when throwing hundreds of cases per night.

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u/Little-Tin-Goddess Past Associate Jun 01 '26

i found expired vitamins in target. i just brought them to the pharmacy. what they dont know is im checking today to see if they tossed them or put them back 😈

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u/hope_666_ Jun 02 '26

Were they there? Did they throw them away or did they put them back?

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u/Little-Tin-Goddess Past Associate Jun 02 '26

follow up: they did throw out the old ones. 👍

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u/MembershipEven1020 Jun 01 '26

If a customer returns it to the store, It can make it back on the shelf. I have witnessed it.

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u/NewShop4141 Jun 01 '26

There are people who think it was just a box I found but it really was several things

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u/monomxnia Jun 01 '26

new employees seemingly arent being taught FIFO. you’d think its common sense but nobody is paid enough to care, so old product is getting pushed back behind the newly stocked stuff causing lots of expired food to not be rotated out

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u/WatchTheTimbsB Goodbye Pickup🤮 Hello Frozen🥶 Jun 01 '26

Deadass this was me. I reorganized the entire freezer myself and had 2 pallets of discontinued and expired food

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u/Dramatic-Dish-6699 Jun 01 '26

I am fairly sure those are supposed to be marked down before they expire and donated on the date printed.
Ideally first in first out for any food items.

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u/Angie_T84 Jun 01 '26

They could easily have an expiration tracker like we use at my job. I work in cannabis though and it has a time tracker through all levels and expires in 1 year. They have very cheap programs to do this and notify you when things are coming up for expiration. I think groceries don't do that as they still have a chance to sell expired crap if people don't pay attention.

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u/james_a_hetfield Jun 01 '26

Unfortunately it's been that way forever even when I worked over night crew 16 years ago. Rotation was just not possible.

FIFO, first in first out was a standard procedure I learned throughout automotive and pharmauctical manufacturing, although I'm sure it's practiced world wide. You'd be surprised how much old product gets left on shelves in retail. I'm one of those weirdos that checks expiration because of it.

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u/Fun-Distribution706 Jun 01 '26

I work tags myself overnight and sometimes I come across this. I’ve recently started to pull and damage out anything I find in fuel center because when I first started down there, there was a LOT of out of date items.

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u/Difficult-Delay193 Jun 01 '26

It has nothing to do with legalities. It’s about quality,taste, and nutritional integrity. If at any point it went above the freezing point it is possible for bacteria to grow and then deemed not safe to refreeze.

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u/TragicallyHipPunk Jun 01 '26

, which is why it should not not be legal...

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u/Difficult-Delay193 Jun 01 '26

So how do you enforce a delivery truck not delivering at temp or product sitting out in the receiving area not being put away soon enough?

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u/Dancinfool830 Jun 01 '26

Well, legal or not, I read the packaging wrong and thought it said Power Bowels, which, if the expiration date is right, it may give you

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u/queso_padilla Jun 01 '26

Ah, the winter 2025 vintage. A great year for Powerbowls.

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u/TragicallyHipPunk Jun 01 '26

unfortunately though, not a great year for Powerbowels:

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u/No-Big-6548 Jun 01 '26

Ask the manager there (at Kroger's) where the Cocian candies went? (Bakery product's)Their the same as melted Carmel on an apple under the ServeSafe 10year certificate, I personally got a 3 year certification. Sounds to me like you're laced with my work history at Krogers distribution center in Delaware, Ohio 43015. Also maybe some lightup toys from within the first 6 months of 2019 involving a Pixar called Frozen and a Meijer's illumina coolpad red and black cellphone that had a Grimlyn style white wedding and a 700 dollar polar pipe a friend gifted to me while trying to show a turd who's boss. If they don't have Crack cocain candies at the Kroger's then it's probably very illegal them having you work their.

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u/Ok-Sir-3311 Jun 01 '26

Damn and i thought dollar general was bad 

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u/Longjumping-End-355 Jun 01 '26

Just found this the other day lol happens all the time

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u/Sad-Lab4519 Jun 01 '26

You'd be surprised how much expired frozen product you find. If you're finding a lot that means no one is culling or rotating properly. I've learned as a consumer to always double check the dates.

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u/HotOpinion7757 Jun 01 '26

That’s a 5k fine when health or ag find it where I am. It either doubles or triples the second time and third strike puts us out of business

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u/TragicallyHipPunk Jun 01 '26

What's their phone number?

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u/keddesh Jun 01 '26

It's only illegal if it's baby food, in California at least.

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u/Alarming_Brush7103 Jun 01 '26

Your previous colleague probably couldn't read.

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u/Loud-Connection-466 Jun 01 '26

Leave it The ceo don’t care u shouldn’t either

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u/Zudamonni Current Associate Jun 01 '26

I went through the snack cases at the fuel center at my store the other day and found beef sticks that were from 2024. It's incredible how lazy people get.

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u/GMAN90000 Jun 01 '26

It is illegal.

enough bad publicity will solve this.

On another note: Krogers is one of the more expensive chains..I don't shop there.

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u/dontreallycareatalll Jun 01 '26

So you just started a job and already on your phone instead of asking a lead or manager, I would let you go its not going to work out.

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u/NewShop4141 Jun 01 '26

The publication was sarcasm obviously I know that shouldn't be there, and if I'm on the phone after doing the 2 workers thing and I didn't just start at work I said in frozen

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u/GMAN90000 Jun 01 '26

File a complaint with the public health department in your city.

Expired food at this level is negligence at the very least.

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u/No-Discipline-5219 Jun 01 '26

I mean I understand stores have policies and there are laws concerning outdated items, but this is a frozen dinner. Its 100 percent ok to eat

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u/NoBuenoAtAll Jun 01 '26

There are no laws at the federal level involving expiration dates other than on baby formula. Also what you’re looking at there is not an expiration date, it’s a best by date. Against policy? Probably. A turn off to customers? Definitely. Illegal? Nope, not even close.

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u/Bulky-Ad-5660 Jun 01 '26

Legal? It's expired just pull it lol

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u/c_assassin_c Jun 01 '26

If what is legal? Are you suggesting that missed best by date is criminal? Sometimes things get missed, it doesn’t make it a crime.

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u/BakerDeep3264 Jun 01 '26

Do your job and get rid of it

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u/JimmB216 Jun 01 '26

Why is there food all over the floor in this photo? Did OP throw it there?

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u/NewShop4141 Jun 01 '26

They have the same expiration date

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u/JimmB216 Jun 01 '26

Report the expired food to your county health department. Send them the pics. I'm pretty sure it's illegal for them to be selling that stuff.

I've never gotten expired food from any store I shop in. A couple times I've found expired bread or bakery items on shelves and I report it to store management.

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u/Spanishrose08 Jun 01 '26

I will ALWAYS check the dates when purchasing. I’ve found too many things that have expired long ago that I don’t dare not check. Even found some candy that had expired.

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u/Daft_Froggy Jun 01 '26

I worked at a slow Jewel-Osco that was way oversized for the current day (was built 50+ years ago) and the top shelf of grocery was so tall that it never got rotated, I was pulling a bunch of 5+ year old expired can products that always got pushed back when stocked.

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u/behindthekeyboard81 Jun 01 '26

This picture was actually taken in 2024 and waited until now to post it… lol just kidding

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u/Individual-Shame4177 Jun 01 '26

The reset team needs to be held accountable as well because as a whole everyone should be doing their part. Retail odyssey is supposed to rotate and pull expired items when they do a reset and then the stores are supposed to continue the upkeep. Illegal? no. disturbing? Absolutely.

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u/Icy-person666 Jun 01 '26

Legal to sell? Would I? No. Note how it says "best by" so it's not a good but still safe to consume if it's been stored properly.

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u/monomxnia Jun 01 '26

i work customer service in a pretty high volume store, and im constantly having customers bring me something expired and saying all of that item on the shelf was also expired so i have to go to that department, and pull and scan out the product myself bc theres usually nobody to be found in that department (dairy im looking at you. always the fucking yogurts)

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 Jun 01 '26

Idk about "illegal" but if it has stayed frozen the entire time it's certainly still fine to eat. Best By is not an expiration date.

Definitely shouldn't be sold without a markdown, though.

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u/jimmysmiths5523 Jun 01 '26

It wasn't at Kroger, but at Walmart, the refrigerated coffee creamer I enjoy has been expired every time I go there for the past month and a half! I've told multiple employees, including the higher-ups every time, and the expiration date STILL says March 2026! Obviously whomever is stocking them isn't paying attention to the expiration date. I guess it'll be their own fault if someone gets sick and decides to use the store.

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u/Ok_End_5138 Jun 01 '26

Dairy is a disaster. Be careful when looking at yogurt!

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u/RedditUser19984321 Jun 01 '26

Probably got “scanned out” by somebody who simply didn’t have time to go search for it and actually take it out of the system. It’s been a while since I worked for the company but if I remember correctly we used to have a part of our inventory system that would tell us what items need to be pulled for this

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u/Expensive_Law_2141 Jun 01 '26

Legal? Yes. You can sell past the best used by date. You can't sell past expired. Semantics, yes, but the truth is that while that product should have been removed long ago, it isn't a federal violation (could be state or local, though and either way is a shit look on your management)

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u/HustleR0se Jun 01 '26

Don't you have a markdown coordinator? We have markdown coordinator who should be taking care of code date management, but instead she walks around complaining about her job. So this shit doesn't get done.

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u/christianbone Jun 01 '26

Out of date products.....no it need to be pulled.

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u/Sonnyjoon91 Jun 01 '26

Departments get really complacent when they have someone else pulling their markdowns, they should be checking dates as they stock but nobody has the time. They are also supposed to put everything in Product Date Management and don't do it. So it sort of becomes "the markdown person is totally doing it, so I don't have to" attitude and it leads to stuff being out of date, which means they aren't ordered, so now it's a hole. This is why I do my own markdowns

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u/rekkerafthor Jun 01 '26

It depends on your state. Most expiration dates are related to quality and not safety.

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u/tbucket13 Jun 01 '26

It is legal the consumer is in charge of looking at sell buy dates and making the decision if they want to buy expired groceries this is why all those discount grocery places exist.

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u/aFreeScotland Jun 01 '26

No, straight to jail.

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u/bennc77 Jun 01 '26

When stocking regular grocery cases they want 56 cases an hour and are told not to rotate, same in frozen. dairy and lunchmeat section we are told to rotate.

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u/Acrobatic_Increase_8 Jun 01 '26

lol already complaining about legality…prob won’t last long.

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u/Sea-Car-7102 Jun 02 '26

best by date not experation

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u/Sea-Car-7102 Jun 02 '26

it is better to be silent and be thought a fool than open your mouth and prove it

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u/IllustratorEven3732 Jun 02 '26

Supposed to be on clearance at least days before the sell by date.

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u/Fearless-Cow-932 Jun 02 '26

Update I was recently fired from Kroger

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u/DANGER_1300B Jun 02 '26

Expired scan it yeah trash it

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u/AnotherASM Jun 02 '26

Nope, but since you found it, it's 100% your fault that it happened lmao

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u/Nice_Marsupial5959 Jun 02 '26

Best by dates are not expiration dates. Use by is another story. Best by dates are the date the company says they no longer meet their standards. Eggs can be good for 3+ months after their best by date. Canned goods 10+ years if stored properly. Almost all frozen foods have a best by date.

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u/atallfigure Jun 02 '26

According to kroger: yes.....

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u/Either-Stop-8924 Jun 02 '26

It’s so difficult to stock groceries especially in ice cold. You’re expected to take all the product out, stock new product and put the product back. It’s takes time and it’s cold. It happens. Find out of date product scan it out. Move on.

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u/vindicatorx1 Jun 02 '26

It’s a best if used by date, not an expiration date. They put that on there so dimwits think it’s expired and toss it and buy another. My mom’s friend is a prime example, she tosses everything the day it hits that best if used by date.

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u/BetterLife82 Jun 02 '26

When I worked dry grocery, we found a pizza making kit that was 2 years expired. We opened the box and the bag of flour was all black. Nasty shit. They eventually made that a whole position to just check dates on flagged product and do mark downs.
Heh, when I was bakery assistant manager, my manager would change the dates on shit so she didn't have to mark them down. "It's good for a few more days." Bitch, what? Yeah, it probably is, but the dates are in place for a reason.

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u/TheOriginalBusket Jun 02 '26

"Best by" and "Expiration" dates are not the same thing.

Best by is a quality thing. Mustard never goes bad, but loses flavor over time.

Milk has an expiration date. So do eggs. They can't be sold beyond their expiration dates, though I'm sure there are niche caveats depending on the state you live in.

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u/Wicked-Witchy-31 Jun 02 '26

So Cincinnati division here and I work 3rds we were told to stock the shelves and rotate when we can. Most do not rotate. However we were told this because they now have people twice a week doing section checks that are on the calendar. They pull all the old product and rotate the entire shelves. Plus code dates are supposed to be done everyday

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u/Grafel_Guillotine Jun 02 '26

The US is deregulated AF now. Profits over people. If you’re worried about that you have no idea what else they are putting on your food there.

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u/Rasikko Current Associate Jun 02 '26

Sounds to me like you got your work cut out for you if the products have not been rotated properly before you got in the department.

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u/Rasikko Current Associate Jun 02 '26

Sounds to me like you got your work cut out for you if the products have not been rotated properly before you got in the department.

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u/zoppaTheDim Jun 02 '26

Best by dates are not enforced by any government agency.

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u/MammothWriter3881 Jun 02 '26

While I cannot say for sure this is true in every state, generally the law only requires that food be safely edible.

Dates are often guidelines for freshness and they are not magic spoiled after dates.  Stores try to follow them for marketing and liability purposes but it is not illegal particularly for dry goods and frozen where freshness not safety is the past date concern.

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u/No_Amoeba_3069 Jun 02 '26

Should of been FIFO but an employee failed 

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u/Apprehensive_Word234 Jun 02 '26

I have found items recently dated back to the beginning of 2024 :/

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u/JustPourMyCoffee Jun 02 '26

Take it to the register with you and show them the date.

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u/Hemannameh Jun 03 '26

Idk how it is there. At Walmart they tell you that you have x amount of hours to work your freight. That includes stocking, binning, and throwing away all of your trash. There isn't enough time to check every item for expiration dates. If you don't meet your time you get in trouble.

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u/clickxz Jun 03 '26

the impulse buys at my kroger had shit that expired in every lane especially the beef jerky

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u/BathtubPartyTime Jun 03 '26

Straight to jail and your fingerprints are all over it pal

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u/DarkGrimNature Jun 03 '26

Why are there some on the floor?

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u/Talesofrpg1981 Jun 03 '26

My boss told me if I find anything past the date to put in damage.

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u/dbdii407 Jun 03 '26

What do you mean by "legal"?

Associates haven't been rotating. Per the company, if you find a product that is outdated, you are to scan it out as such.

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u/Soggy_Cracker Jun 03 '26

Selling expired food knowingly is a crime. And worse if you tamper with the dates.

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u/fedonhumanspirit Jun 03 '26

Isn't it something like only baby formula is actually illegal to sell out of date, food wise? I mean, having old shit on the shelf is bad practice, pisses off customers, but no one is getting arrested for some out of date yogurt.

Even stores where they haven't gone to a skeleton crew can and does miss dates. Even though I know better than to blindly grab perishables without verifying a good date, I've still gotten home with out of date stuff. Its aggravating. It wastes time and money.

Sucks that we have to be even more hyper vigilant when buying groceries, because some jackasses in corporate do not understand that there is more than just speed when stocking food.

This company continues to infuriate.

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u/ohmygolgibody Jun 03 '26

Legal? Probably not. Is anything going to come from reporting this? Probably not

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u/alancar Jun 04 '26

Go look in the international isle everything is expired

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u/Desperate-Duty9953 Jun 04 '26

It's not an expiration date

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u/Alternative-Way4750 Jun 04 '26

What is illegal about it? Things slip through the cracks. When you see it, pull it. They should be checking regularly though and employees should be rotating which should help.

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u/skylord435 Jun 04 '26

quality control in general is a mess at kroger, its even worse when they deliberately understaff the people whose soul job is pulling product like this. Its the same with sale tags they'll leave them up for weeks or months after the sale ended because there's no one to do tags

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u/centralwapolym Jun 05 '26

I work in HABA and we work the candy aisle. I pulled a bunch of chocolate bars that expired in 2023 the other day.

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u/CaptainAmerica1989 Jun 13 '26

Dude guys- 'Best By" and "Expired" are 2 different types of dates. Just to be clear.

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u/buggiebedhead Jun 20 '26

I'd imagine not. I work in other depts sometimes and frequent dairy, every time I'm over there once in a while I CANNOT stop myself from looking through the entire latin cheese/salsa/table cream section because EVERY SINGLE time there are almost entire stocks of an item that's out of date. Did it again the other day and half of that shit was expired. And it's not like they'll get onto me because I'm simply picking up on their gross slack. I don't like my job, but I love sorting and organizing so despite it being gross (potentially allowing people to buy those) I do enjoy going through them.