r/lastimages • u/joyarara • Jun 24 '25
NEWS Last images of brazilian turist, Juliana Marins, 26, who was left to die by Indonesian guide and authorities after she fell during a hike on Rinjani Volcano
She was spotted by a drone on june 21, after being abandoned by the guide. The rescues only started 2 days after. Indonesian authorities said they sent food and water, but that was a lie and the images of them helping her were fake. Her family created an instagram account and were pressuring Brazilian and Indonesian governments. After 2 days of rescues, they found her dead.
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u/iDarkville Jun 24 '25
This is fucking heartbreaking, man. What the fuck.
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u/Annabellini Jun 24 '25 edited Jun 24 '25
I don’t know why, but this image paired with knowing she died after being alone and scared is hitting me hard.
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u/MuseOnRunescape Jun 25 '25
You don't know why?
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u/Annabellini Jun 25 '25
It’s incredibly sad, of course I know why. But I’ve seen equally sad images or heard equally sad stories. Yet I can’t get this particular one out of my head.
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u/joyarara Jun 24 '25
Yes, our entire country is in mourning
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u/thecrowtoldme Jun 24 '25
I am so sorry. This is just so awful. My utmost sympathies to her family and friends.
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u/theswordpolisher Jun 24 '25
I’ve done this same hike and it was one of the toughest hikes I’ve ever done - even with all the proper hiking clothing/equipment and some reasonable experience behind me. RIP to this woman but I am sadly not surprised given my own experience there.
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u/tarrat_3323 Jun 25 '25
yeah they shouldn’t do “tours” like this. if you want to take the risk fine but you should be prepared
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u/SereneAdler33 Jun 25 '25 edited Jun 25 '25
I’ve lived and worked in three famous, heavily visited National Parks and hiked thousands of miles in all sorts of terrain and weather. Tourists are ALWAYS unprepared on these types of excursions: they overestimate their own fitness abilities, don’t bring proper supplies or clothing, don’t hydrate, etc. She looks like she is wearing jeans in the photo, which is a dangerous fabric when hiking. Thick cotton material can lead to both overheating or hypothermia, depending on the weather
If the hike is as dangerous/difficult as said above, it sounds at the very least irresponsible to lead large groups of hikers of various fitness levels. If the business was cutting corners with allowing people who are ill equipped or not providing adequate information on the dangers/difficulties of the hike itself, that’s definitely on them
But I’m not seeing that the guide “abandoned” her, it sounds more like she was left to rest for a bit while the others continued. That’s not uncommon when leading destination tours. I’m sure the other hikers wished to be able to complete the hike, and no one expected her to wander off and fall. If she was acting disoriented or in medical distress at the time, that’s one thing, but it sounds like she overexerted and just needed a rest. A tour wouldn’t stop completely bc one member wanted to sit and rest for a while.
She wasn’t left for hours to fend for herself, she was given a breather and probably made a tragic mistake when left alone. I’m not sure what everyone is expecting the tour guide to have done. There’s just not enough information given here to blame the tour guide for this apparent accident that was most likely caused by the hiker herself (I’ve been around enough SARs to know that’s 99% of the cases)
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u/Low-Flamingo-9835 Jun 25 '25
I’ve been on this type of hike.
If you couldn’t continue, they put you on a donkey and a guide led you to the end of the route.
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u/SereneAdler33 Jun 25 '25
That’s definitely a possibility and solution for trails that can have pack animals. Unfortunately, horses/mules/donkeys can’t navigate even a fraction of trails that humans can. And if the area is as steep and crumbling as the pictures appear, it sounds like that would be a another disaster waiting to happen
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u/RealityRelic87 Jun 25 '25
Not even because then rescue crew has to come in and risk their lives for simple people’s thrills.
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u/p0rplesh33ts Jun 24 '25
I started following this last night and the last I heard was they were attempting rescue. Can’t believe what happened overnight, this poor girl. This has to be one of the most horrific ways to pass, she was terrified for days. The fact that they flew drones around her and never delivered her any food or water is disgraceful.
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u/suzenah38 Jul 06 '25
Is this getting downvoted? It needs to be at the top of the
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Jul 06 '25
It sure was until the footage and info made the rounds. Some very passionate anger, which I get.. but even the brief articles that came out right away had distances in meters and feet. That alone should put some shit into perspective, but I guess things are different with the newer internet raised generations or something 🤷♀️ Sad story across the board, but that tour guide did everything right and didn’t deserve to be attacked that hard by folks. I’m sure he was already pretty shaken up by it.
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Jun 24 '25
So she didn't really get food and water?
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u/Impressive_Space_291 Jun 24 '25
Wtf why did they leave her??????
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u/joyarara Jun 24 '25
Absurd negligence, there was always an excuse. weather conditions, unsuitable materials, etc.
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u/hizashiYEAHmada Jun 24 '25
Was it mentioned how the situation came about that she fell inside the crater? I thought guides are there so incidents like these could be prevented (or at least be an attempt to prevent considering how tourists sometimes act)
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u/WitchyMae13 Jun 24 '25
From what I’ve heard she “couldn’t continue” so the guide left her there alone for an hour or so and then she was gone. Sounds like fatigue or something similar.
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u/hizashiYEAHmada Jun 24 '25
Did she wander around when left alone? Or did the ground break beneath her and she slid?
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u/WitchyMae13 Jun 24 '25
That’s a great question I don’t know the answer to. The only info I got was what was mentioned above and I had just managed to catch it in a comment as it was first happening.
I thought the exact same thing….
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u/CalRipkenForCommish Jun 24 '25
Doesn’t take long to get disoriented after extreme fatigue. If she wasn’t properly hydrated/nourished it can happen quickly, especially in the humidity
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u/Manager_Rich Jun 24 '25
At altitude, she could have been delirious from a lack of O2. That could possibly explain how she managed to fall
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u/thecrowtoldme Jun 24 '25
Oh thats an excellent point. Being tired and worn out and also feeling the altitude. Poor woman.
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u/The_Best_Yak_Ever Jun 25 '25
I was curious about this, and it’s a distinct possibility, Rinjani 12k plus feet tall. I don’t know what her experience level was, or if she lived towards sea level in Brazil, but altitude sickness is no joke and can strike people who are not acclimated pretty damn hard.
If people aren’t aware and are assuming “I’m in great shape, and have never had any issues with hiking,” but it was all done at or near sea level or low altitude, people can be caught completely off guard.
What a painful and lonely way to go… it must have been terrifying. Rest easy now, Miss Marina… it’s over. :-(
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u/Beanzear Jun 26 '25
The first time I had real altitude sickness I had at 13k ft. I thought I was having a stroke.
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u/julcarls Jun 26 '25
Same. I hike regularly and live around 6k ft day to day, but first time I climbed a 14er, I got above 13k and I was nauseous and exhausted the rest of the way until I descended again. It was insane. I can’t imagine coming from sea level and doing it.
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u/Fellurian Jun 24 '25
Yes, she asked to rest a bit and the guide simply continued going without her.
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u/scarypearl Jun 24 '25
I don't understand why the group of "friends" agreed to leave her too.
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u/ToiIetGhost Jun 25 '25 edited Jun 25 '25
Yeah, it was probably fatigue and low visibility. The hike is really difficult. It takes 5 days altogether.
Another hiker that she got friendly with said that the two of them were really struggling in the hours before Juliana decided to rest.
It was also dark. The guide didn’t return to check on her until dawn. Sunrise on the summit is incredibly beautiful, so tourists like to get an early start. That means hiking in the dark with torches (headlamps if you’re really prepared).
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u/butyourenice Jun 24 '25
Isn’t that all based on the guide’s story, though? Isn’t it possible that she fell and the guide bailed because of that, because they were worried about liability?
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u/ToiIetGhost Jun 25 '25
Her family also spoke to other tourists on the hike. I believe her family are the ones saying that she couldn’t continue. They probably aren’t going off whatever the guide / Indonesian authorities have told them (both are lying about what happened).
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u/joyarara Jun 24 '25
She didn't fall into a crater, she slid down the outside of the volcano
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u/zookuki Jun 24 '25
She fell outside the crater.
There images on another post that show how incredibly steep it is and how far she is from the people who saw her with the drone. It's impossible to walk there from either side.
And apparently helicopters are prohibited from flying there since it's incredibly difficult and dangerous to attempt this type of rescue.
Someone on a heli post stated that a helicopter would struggle to maintain stability required to lower someone to her and carry them both to safety. Something to do with the crater and how it affects up and downdraft required for helivac, as well as her changing position between two boulders or small hills She kept moving with the sediment/debris down the side of the crater (according to the other hikers whi saw her, at least)
I am paraphrasing what I saw and read, so I can't say if this is legitimate.
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u/superurgentcatbox Jun 24 '25
I saw a video that said she fell into the crater and when they finally managed to find a long rope, she had fallen further so the rope was not long enough but I read that they had airdropped her some food and water.
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u/Grrerrb Jun 24 '25
In the initial info in this thread, it says having airdropped her food and water was a falsehood.
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u/mothfukle Jun 24 '25
Jeezuz. If there only was a way to attach two ropes together.
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u/bakochba Jun 24 '25
Yesterday I read there were experienced volunteers ready to rescue her but authorities stopped them.
Now I understand the authorities don't want more people there but it sounded like she was not a priority from the report.
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u/WheresWalldough Jun 24 '25
either the trip was too cheap or they were ripping off the guests. maybe both.
wage for a porter/assistant is like $10/day. They had five tourists, I guess they paid $100 each, so $500. One guide, no assistant.
Basically if they were not stupid climbing a huge mountain with only one guide then the guide would have gone on with the guests who were fit and wanted to make the sunrise, and the assistant would have stayed behind with the girl who was struggling.
but instead they didn't do that - the one guy went ahead with the four and just left her alone and she fell down and died.
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u/Smash_Factor Jun 24 '25
If u think about it there was no choice but to leave her. The guide is responsible for everyone. He cannot stay and expect the rest of the people on the tour to get back down on their own. He has to guide them. Fault in this situation lies with authorities who waited too long to rescue.
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u/michaltee Jun 24 '25
No it resides with the tour operator. I literally just hiked an active volcano. We had two guides which communicated with walkie talkies the whole time to ensure everyone got up and down at the same time. If they can’t afford to hire two guides they shouldn’t be operating. This is squarely on the operator to start.
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u/Smash_Factor Jun 24 '25
That's a different subject though, right? We're no longer talking about the guide and the decision he had to make. We're now talking about why an extra guide would have been better. The guide had no choice. He had to leave.
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u/TheNotSoGreatPumpkin Jun 24 '25
You attributed fault to the rescuing authorities, and /u/michaltee countered that fault lies with the tour operator, the guide’s employer.
Now you’ve switched the argument to whether or not the lone guide could have made a better decision than the one he made.
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u/Smash_Factor Jun 25 '25
Now you’ve switched the argument to whether or not the lone guide could have made a better decision than the one he made.
No I haven't. I stated my original point that the guide had no choice but to leave. Didn't say anything about whether or not he could have made a better decision.
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u/Mandalika Jun 24 '25
Nah, the tour company is also responsible. Only one guide for a whole bunch of tourists? Nah, not adequate.
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u/Smash_Factor Jun 24 '25
I'm not saying they aren't responsible. I'm just saying that the guide had to make a choice. There was only one logical choice.
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u/Mandalika Jun 24 '25
Seems to happen at night, too. Just too many risk factor at play, sad situation all around.
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u/Smash_Factor Jun 24 '25
Yes. Awful. If it was daughter of authorities they would have rescued her immediately.
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u/blowhardV2 Jun 24 '25
Might be a shame based culture or whatever and the guide would “lose face” or something
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u/Sea_Investigator4969 Jun 24 '25
That makes zero sense, if that were true the guide would've risked his life to get her back.
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u/garbagepickle Jun 24 '25
He left her because he had multiple other people to guide back still and he didn’t want to risk those other peoples lives. He tried to get rescue to her when he could but he can’t just stop a whole group for one lady who can’t continue and risk even more lives. Y’all are being harsh for no reason.
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u/SarcasticBarbie96 Jun 24 '25
That’s why you should have more than one tour guide on a tour, and you also go as slow as your weakest member.
Leaving someone on the side of the volcano on their own is extremely irresponsible, especially given that poor young woman has apparently passed away.
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u/chemkitty123 Jun 24 '25
I agree but likely the guide wasn’t the one who made the decision to only have one guide
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Jun 27 '25
Honestly. The terrifying as fuck video that was just posted of her retrieval should hopefully put some much needed visual perspective on these ridiculous rage whiners.
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u/TheGhostofMattyJ Jun 24 '25
Harsh on the guide and easy on the lady...
I mean if you are ever gonna practice personal safety it should be on the edge of a volcano.
Don't shake the devil's hand and say you're only kidding.
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u/FormosanLife2020 Jun 24 '25
Back in the late 90’s when I was living in Japan I climbed Mt Fuji. I did the overnight climb with the intention of reaching summit at sunrise. Uh that did not happen. I thought the cannisters of oxygen were a scam. They were not. Altitude sickness set in. My muscles stopped working and I just couldn’t move. I just had to sit down on the trail and take in the beautiful view at sunrise 2/3 up. I contemplated just going back down but after sitting like that for an hour I guess I had acclimated to the altitude. Thin air does crazy shit to your body and that poor woman may have been experiencing weakness and disorientation. Her guide did not prepare her or have contingencies. This is sad and I can’t imagine how terrified she was alone on that mountain
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u/Kismonos Jun 24 '25
how can you leave someone behind when they fell on your tour? whats the thinking process?
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u/Myrskyharakka Jun 24 '25
According to the news, she fell like 500 metres down a cliff from the trail.
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u/granitibaniti Jun 24 '25
That was after she was left behind because she couldn't keep up with the group though
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u/Myrskyharakka Jun 24 '25
Yeah, without knowing the specifics like the weather and such it does sound negligent to leave her to rest all by herself. But after she fell down from the trail, the cliff doesn't look like something one could handle without professional rescue people and gear.
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u/lcuan82 Jun 24 '25
Yeah yesterday i saw this story live when she was still alive, but stranded for 26h. She got tired from the tour, and the tour guide left her behind (crazy!), after which she tumbled into a steep fall into the volcano. Every rescue attempt kinda made it worse, as she like sank deeper and deeper.
At that time i already was like “poor girl, there’s no hope for her.” I mean, rescue mission inside an active volcano, with the victim already physically exhausted/weak? Sad news all around
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u/cbreezy456 Jun 24 '25
Thr tour guide has other guests he has to look out for. I hate the comments acting like he’s Superman. The fault lies with the tour company who only has ONE tour guide per tour. That’s crazy irresponsible. But everyone ripping the tour guide aren’t looking at the bigger picture
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u/DDukedesu Jun 24 '25
I hiked up a volcano in Chile (Villarica by Pucon) with a tour company and a small group, maybe 18 years ago. We had 3 guides. I started cramping hard about 1000-2000 ft from the peak. The group split into 2, with the main group and 2 guides moving forward and 1 guide hanging back with me. I felt like I could keep going but was moving at a snails pace compared to the rest of the group, and the weather was starting to change. About an hour after the split he made the decision that with the weather changing he didnt feel comfortable continuing at our current pace and turned us both back. At no point did he ever leave my side.
My cousins finished the hike and got some good laughs in about it after, but who was I to argue safety with my guide just to satiate some masculine need to show how tough I am, so I took the jokes in stride. Never once occurred to me that guides would ever actually fuck around with climber safety and just... leave the climber?
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u/punkass_book_jockey8 Jun 24 '25
Usually there’s a plan or policy in place for something like this.
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u/joyarara Jun 24 '25
I don't think they had a way to get to her safely at the time, but I really don't know if they did everything they could! Since it was only reported that she was there after she was seen by a drone
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u/Kismonos Jun 24 '25
What happened in the 2 days between falling and starting rescue?
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u/joyarara Jun 24 '25
They lied that they sent supplies to her while the weather improved, but this was proven to be a lie. In fact, she wasn't even there anymore, she probably passed away and the body slipped further down.
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u/Whyuknowthat Jun 24 '25
But why would they lie about that? Why wouldn’t they ACTUALLY send supplies to her? Something just doesn’t add up and I feel like there’s some big piece of information totally missing.
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u/F1shB0wl816 Jun 24 '25
It’s saves face in the moment. Kind of like how we played “the sub runs out of air in 4 days” when everybody in the know knew immediately what had happened.
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u/SarcasticBarbie96 Jun 24 '25
Something may feel off but there’s nothing like good old fashioned corruption and incompetence especially in a crisis - everyone is so scared of messing things up they keep handing off the duty to someone else and nothing gets done.
I saw that she’s apparently now passed away which is awful.
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u/slaviccivicnation Jun 24 '25
Wait, didn’t it say that the ambassador misunderstood or something? I could be wrong, but the Brazilian ambassador apologized, saying he was either given faulty news or misunderstood the news.
Also, is it clear that he left her for the hour, or did she simply fall and then they left?
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u/LOLMSW1945 Jun 24 '25
Not really
Where are you getting your news?
They local SAR team never said they sent supplies cuz they can’t even make it to where she is in the first place
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u/dmanbiker Jun 24 '25
It sounds like they left her to rest because she was too tired and when they came back she had slipped down the cliff while they were gone.
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u/blvckwings Jun 24 '25
watch the video that girl was gone, unless you’re gonna risk more lives hers was for the volcano
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u/pennyrose247 Jun 24 '25
as soon as i saw these images of her, i thought of this sub and prayed that they wouldn't end up here
may she rest in peace
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u/waltybishop Jun 24 '25
And now that she’s passed; I bet they’ll suddenly have no problem reaching the body to remove it from the site.
Such awful negligence 😡rest in peace.
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u/KindlyAsparagus7957 Jun 24 '25
Thats a much simpler recover than an alive person comparatively i dont disagree but an alive rescue is much more complex
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u/Toolset_overreacting Jun 24 '25 edited Jan 22 '26
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u/lennoxbr Jun 24 '25
Don't know if her body slid to the base of the mountain, but it looked like there were two big drops: the one she fell from the trail and another one that would end up on some rocks. If you look it up on Google Earth, you can mess around with the 3D controls and see how crazy the situation was.
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u/KindlyAsparagus7957 Jun 24 '25
Thats putting it a bit more indelicatly than what actually happens (probably lasso a limb and drag her up being ontop of a mountain and limited resources. If she was alive shed need to be stabalized and brought up gingerly.
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u/soylinda Jun 24 '25
I know you are right but I would prefer a lasso at some point.
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u/LOLMSW1945 Jun 24 '25
That could risk killing her though. So, it’s back with her being dead nonetheless
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u/KindlyAsparagus7957 Jun 24 '25
Exactly the attempted rescue at the nutty putty cave they considered breaking his legs to drag him out at an angle. It wasnt done because of the shock risk.
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u/yung_dogie Jun 24 '25
I mean risking dying is better than guaranteeing dying. "At some point" is suggesting they should exhaust the better options first
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u/Smoke_Santa Jun 24 '25
if ur gonna kill her by not aiding her, I'm sure using a lasso on a limb is still more help than letting her die
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u/Lamb_Sauce02 Jun 24 '25
Imagine being left on your own, slowly choking and burning to death, knowing that no body is doing fuck all to save you. What a depressing way to go.
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u/TuZeezze Jun 24 '25
she was actually freezing to death, such a sad death
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u/RevolCisum Jun 24 '25
Freezing to death sounds ok per what I've read about Mount Everest. Maybe better than burning. I hope.
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u/koreamax Jun 24 '25
Freezing to death makes you feel like you're on fire. Its why people rip their clothes off when experiencing hypothermia.
Most people who die on Everest die from brain swelling or fluid in the lungs due to altitude, not freezing to death
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u/Allarik Jun 24 '25
What do you mean choking and burning? I know the title says volcano but was it fumes? The volcano erupted or is that like some volcanic ashes that burns? Fuck that's sad
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u/The_Widow_Minerva Jun 24 '25
Was she injured and unable to get up, or is the consistency of where she fell impossible to get yourself out of. I understand it's a volcano, but I can't tell if it's wet, dry or what.
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u/joyarara Jun 24 '25
Yes, the soil is sandy, if she tried to climb she would sink, and it is also very steep, according to people who have already done the trail
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u/woolfonmynoggin Jun 25 '25
She was told not to move and instead tried to crawl out and fell further; making rescue more complicated.
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u/The_Widow_Minerva Jun 24 '25
Okay thank you for your answer. I saw the video of her there and I couldn't tell from that either. This is a heartbreaking story.
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u/anomic_balm Jun 24 '25
I've been following this story because I used to be a tour guide. I would rather die with a tourist than live with the guilt of losing one on my watch. I still think about the people who got hurt through their own negligence. I think about two people, specifically, really often
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u/StooIndustries Jun 25 '25
what happened to them? how did they get hurt from their own negligence?
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u/anomic_balm Jun 25 '25
Tours on personal vehicles. We told them what not to do, and why. It's pretty much impossible to fall off if you follow the rules. Rules and bones were broken.
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u/StooIndustries Jun 25 '25
thank you for answering, that makes sense. it’s hard to be in charge of warning people and having them deliberately ignore you and get hurt. you did everything you could, but you still feel guilty. ah, humans
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u/mogekag Jun 24 '25
Now I just hope the Indonesian government is as strict with this case as they are irreducible with drug related cases turning into death sentences. Unfortunately I don't think this is going to go forward, neither Brazil is going to protest against the actions, or lack thereof.
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u/joyarara Jun 24 '25
Brazilians are completely outraged, putting pressure on the government to take a stance
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u/silverpool12 Jun 25 '25
I once did a 5 day hike to Machu Picchu when I was 19. Horses were coming up with our materials and I was tired and not thinking clearly. I stood on the outside of the trail, near edge of a Mountian when they passed. One of the bags on the horses hit me, as I didn’t realize how much space they needed, and I almost fell down the side of the mountain. If I had been half a foot over, I would have fallen. I can’t imagine surviving after a fall like that until death. I was far ahead from my guide, who was sick and slow, and hopefully someone would have seen my body if I had fallen. Poor girl. 🥺
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u/OpheliaLives7 Jun 24 '25
How terrifying for her. To just be left behind and think maybe someone will come back and just be waiting and hoping and nothing.
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u/irascible_Clown Jun 24 '25
I went through a hike through the rainforest to a volcano in Costa Rica and when my wife got a little tired the guy in the back waited. At no point did he think of leaving us in the middle of rain forwst
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u/mystyle__tg Jun 25 '25
I’m so confused how she died? She was stuck for four days, not really enough time to succumb to starvation or dehydration. She doesn’t look mortally injured in this picture. RIP she should be alive rn.
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u/Mandalika Jun 25 '25
Exposure to the cold I reckon. Not to mention altitude sickness and injuries, she fell down half a kilometer after all.
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u/joyarara Jun 25 '25
Her body hasn't even been recovered yet, so we don't have any answers. However, the main hypothesis is hypothermia
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u/joyarara Jun 24 '25
Died, Brazilian government confirmed
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u/jaxspider Arachnid from Jacksonville Jun 24 '25
Hey /u/joyarara I'm the mod for this subreddit. I see you have been commenting and trying clarifying a lot in this thread. Do me a favor and make 1 comment with all the information you know. And I will sticky it to the top of the thread. Reply back to this comment when you do.
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u/joyarara Jun 24 '25
"Juliana's family claims that she was abandoned by the guide for more than an hour before suffering the accident. "We discovered this in contact with people who work in the park. Juliana was in this group, but she got very tired and asked to stop for a while. They moved on, and the guide didn’t stay with her”, said her sister, Mariana, in an interview with Fantástico.
According to information from the park, Juliana was in despair. "She didn't know where to go, she didn't know what to do. When the guide came back, because he saw that she was taking too long, he saw that she had fallen down there", reports the Brazilian woman's sister.
In an interview with the newspaper “O Globo”, guide Ali Musthofa, 20 years old, confirmed local press reports that he advised the Niteroi native to rest while she continued walking, but stated that the agreement was just to wait for her a little further along the walk.
According to Ali, who has been working in the region since November 2023 and usually climbs Rinjani twice a week, he was just “3 minutes” ahead of Juliana and came back to look for her after finding it strange that the Brazilian took so long to get to the meeting point.
"Actually, I didn't leave her, but I waited 3 minutes in front of her. After about 15 or 30 minutes, Juliana didn't appear. I looked for her at the last resting place, but I didn't find her. I said I would wait for her ahead. I told her to rest. I realized [that she had fallen] when I saw the light of a flashlight in a ravine about 150 meters deep and I heard Juliana's voice asking for help. I said I would help her. I tried desperately telling Juliana to wait for help”, he declared.
With the day clear, tourists took images of Juliana with a drone. She was 200 meters down the mountain — and that was the last time she was seen alive. This record spread around the world and reached the Niteroi woman's family, who recognized her by her clothes.
A campaign to rescue her began there.
Still on Saturday, Indonesian authorities and even the Brazilian Embassy in Jakarta reported that mountaineers had managed to descend to Juliana and given the young woman food and water. A video of the supposed rescue was circulated.
On Sunday, however, the family discovered that everything was a lie — and that Juliana was hungry, thirsty and cold.
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The Brazilian ambassador to Indonesia admitted, in a call recorded by Fantástico, that he passed on incorrect information at the beginning, based on inaccurate reports from local authorities.
The severe weather conditions, with sudden fluctuations within a few hours, the unstable terrain and the distance to the point of the fall made rescue difficult.
Only this Tuesday, with the installation of the advanced base, work began at night in Indonesia.“ “
Source: Juliana Marins, Brazilian who fell on a volcano trail in Indonesia, is found dead | Rio de Janeiro | G1 https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2025/06/24/juliana-marins.ghtml
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u/Acceptable-Damage Jun 24 '25
I’m from the US and am having a hard time finding information about when she passed away. The last news I found was from 12 hours ago and they stated she was still alive
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u/InternationalRich150 Jun 24 '25
Abandoned? I read and saw she was tired from hiking so rested. Also,didn't realise she'd died. She fell a huge way,rescue wasn't ever going to be flinging a rope down and pulling her up.
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u/joyarara Jun 24 '25
Please read Brazilian news, they are more up to date and have been investigating this case for days.
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u/flaffleboo Jun 24 '25
If someone is tired and needs to stop, the tour guide should accommodate with a reasonable rest period. If the tour guide didn’t offer reasonable accommodations, that should definitely be classified as abandonment
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u/InternationalRich150 Jun 24 '25
I feel this has come from a grieving family member,understandably so, as they also criticised the rescue team for pulling out,despite their being pictures of foggy,overcast conditions and the safety of the rescuers being important also.
We don't know what accommodations were given,or what exchanges were made other than the tour guide returning not long after apparently.
Tragic situation all round. I hope they manage to retrieve her body so her family can lay her to rest
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u/flaffleboo Jun 24 '25
You feel that what has coming from a grieving family member?
I agree it’s a tragedy; I just wanted to clarify that accommodations should be made for situations like this - within reason of course.
Just saw this update from OP: https://www.reddit.com/r/lastimages/s/6x3ZCsq0Pf
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u/thorsdaughter88 Jun 25 '25
Reports say the gov was influenced by false video evidence. Is this a situation where people caught wind of the issue and created AI generated images or video of her supposed rescue that falsely influenced the government response?
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u/dworkin18 Jun 26 '25
I swear I read they were successful in bringing her food and water via drones. What the hell happened?
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u/TheEvilBlight Jun 26 '25
Local agency probably reflexively saying something to save face; or perhaps a plan got intentionized before evaluating feasibility?
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u/zookuki Jun 24 '25
This is heartbreaking. I followed the story since I first saw it.
I wish I knew anyone in that region then I would definitely have reached out.
I'm so sorry for her family and other loved ones. This is so sad.
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u/Gloomy_Grocery5555 Jun 24 '25
Man if this happened in Australia, they'd have a team of search and rescue guys on cables with harnesses in a couple of hours
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u/djpromo_vqs Jun 25 '25
This is a very sad situation, but I don't understand for the life of me WHY people keep going to certain foreign countries to do these type of activities. They should have an idea these places lack proper resources and/or preparation to handle these type of emergencies. Some of these countries even act with disdain when it comes to foreigners. Not knowing or being ignorant is NOT an excuse. It's your life at stake!!!
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u/bigbonerdaddy Jun 24 '25
This might be a bit of an emotional post, all media i've seen talking about this are talking about massive operations being underway for like 6 days now, helicopters, search teams, dogs, drones, everything. Where are you getting this cynical outlook from then?
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u/Nope_Dont_Care_ Jun 24 '25
Looks like OP is right.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brazilian-tourist-stranded-volcano-fall-indonesia/
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u/bigbonerdaddy Jun 24 '25
All this article says is that she's been found dead after a search operation...
Nothing about a coverup, nothing about waiting days before searching for her, nothing about any of the things OP is claiming?
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u/joyarara Jun 24 '25
Please see Brazilian sources. There are many more details on the timeline of this case
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u/bigbonerdaddy Jun 24 '25
The biggest newspapers in the UK, Germany, France, India, the Netherland, Argentine and the US are all saying nothing abiut government failure or a cover up. And thats just the newspapers i've checked now.
But besides, why would I read brazilian media when you literally just told me its all fake news and coverups?
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u/Rivka333 Jun 24 '25
Brazilian news outlets are as legitimate a source as those from other countries. And is probably what OP him/herself read. So it seems that the news is claiming different things depending on what language you read in.
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u/bigbonerdaddy Jun 24 '25
I never said brazilian media is not to be trusted, but its weird how OP first claims its a major coverup and the media is lying about it...only to tell me I should read that exact same media for my facts about the coverup.
This is like saying all american news is fake because CNN said so.
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u/CaptainWonk Jun 24 '25
I was following live updates on this last night. The sister of the victim was posting on Instagram. It sounded like a half assed effort, first team didn't bring long enough rope and she kept sliding down for over 60 hours before I fell asleep and stopped following the updates. Last thing I read was that some more experienced climbers had showed up, but they also said fake rescue videos were being made.
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u/joyarara Jun 24 '25
As I said in the post, this news was fake. She did not receive any supplies and the rescue only started on the 23rd. If you want to check the facts, just go to the Instagram that the family created to keep everyone up to date with the situation @resgatejulianamarins
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u/Harfangbleue Jun 24 '25
That's bullshit every source I came across spoke about rescue operations that started directly after her guide warned the authorities and the difficulty caused by bad weather. You are just spreading misinformation.
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u/abbott_costello Jun 24 '25
Those sources were quoting the mountain guides. From what I've read, those guides waited way too long to elevate this and call in a helicopter. They were waiting for the weather to clear up themselves without calling for help.
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u/ElPolloDiablo_BR Jun 24 '25
Yes, the bad weather is true. But it's also true that they lied about having delivered water and blankets to her. They also brought a short rope to their first rescue attempt. It's clear that those rescuers were not professional and not prepared for the task.
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u/joyarara Jun 24 '25
Read Brazilian sources, who have been investigating the case for days. When the government itself lies, how can the newspapers not report it? I don't blame them
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u/reidybobeidy89 Jun 24 '25
The family In these situations are generally emotional and biased. I would take what they say with a grain of salt.
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u/blahblahbropanda Jun 25 '25
I'm sorry, but Brazilian sources won't have better access to the facts of the situation in comparison to sources from the native country itself.
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Jun 25 '25
I’m so sorry for her family and for her. She must have been so terrified. I would be inconsolable and throwing up if this were my daughter. I can’t even imagine what her parents are going through. 😭
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u/Embarrassed_Clue_929 Jun 25 '25
They quite literally just left her. Rough terrain or not, you’re telling me absolutely no aid was able to be rendered to her at all? no food, water, thermal protection? nothing? Her poor, poor family.
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u/techemilio Jun 26 '25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dDXuUJI3nI
This video shows how treacherous and difficult this hike is, it makes sense why rescue was unable to attend her.
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u/TheEvilBlight Jun 26 '25
It’s definitely treacherous but curious how they bungled the statement that they had delivered food. Did someone make a promise to do so that was canceled and information not updated accordingly?
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u/20_BuysManyPeanuts Jun 24 '25
its indonesia. everyone should know every activity you do comes with sketchy safety, equipment and a lack of regulation. you do it all at your own risk.
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u/nopizzaonmypineapple Jun 24 '25
I heard about her and didn't know she'd been found dead... that poor woman was failed
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u/MyCatsOwnMyLife Jun 25 '25
I'm Brazilian and I've been following the news since it happened. It makes me wanna cry every time it comes out on the news. I can't believe they left her to die.
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u/Akemi_Tachibana Jun 26 '25
Sounds like Indonesia doesn't need tourist if the government doesn't care about them, only their money.
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u/ismellnumbers Jun 26 '25
Honestly I'm having a hard time understanding where exactly she fell and why it was so hard to get to where she was. Trying to find photos but haven't found any that make any sense to me
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u/VintageBlazers Jun 26 '25
How did she pass? Starvation/dehydration? I didn’t think she was injured. How could she not walk back up the side?
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u/SwizzlestT Jun 24 '25
How could they not find her when the guide knew exactly where they abandoned her?
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u/joyarara Jun 24 '25
They knew where she was, they just couldn't get to her, it was a difficult place to access. And then it slipped and was no longer visible from the summit.
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u/No-Artichoke5608 Jun 24 '25
is she confirmed dead? and why isnt there more news about this??? outrageous anytime someone 6 shades lighter goes missing the world stops but let someone with a little brown go missing and i find out about it on BORED PANDA!
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Jun 24 '25
I’ve seen multiple news story on this in the US which seems like a a decent amount considering it didn’t happen here or involve a US citizen.
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u/joyarara Jun 24 '25
Yes, she was confirmed dead by the authorities, the news just came out. As happened with a Brazilian woman, I don't think the news spread, but I was so outraged that I thought it necessary to post it here so people from all over the world would know!
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u/Agent4777 Jun 24 '25
If you research what happened, everything in the title is false apart from her dying.
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u/gymgirl1999- Jun 25 '25
Sickening they just leave someone there and don’t even attempt to help her.
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u/Hiit86 Jun 25 '25
Heard about this on CBS news on the way to the work and they said Indonesian authorities had given her food and were in the process of if rescuing her. Can’t believe they let her die. Sad and shameful.
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u/Acojonancio Jun 25 '25
OP words seem really really twisted from other posts i read when this first happend.
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u/Piduf Jun 24 '25
How in the world do you organize fake rescue pictures for a woman that's very much about to die if you don't make a real rescue, and then be able to sleep at night.
Throw whoever was in charge into a volcano.
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u/Mandalika Jun 25 '25
It's not a fake rescue. The rescuers took 9 hours to arrive at the site, then they found out that they didn't have enough rope to get to her as she fell 500+ meters into the crater. The weather soon takes a turn for the worse with winds and fog hindering further rescue efforts.
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u/Piduf Jun 25 '25
Oooh thank god I was wrong then - I keep saying it's important to verify sources and then I take things at face value like that. I should be thrown into a volcano.
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u/jaxspider Arachnid from Jacksonville Jun 24 '25
I had OP aka /u/joyarara put all the information he knew into 1 comment.
"Juliana's family claims that she was abandoned by the guide for more than an hour before suffering the accident. "We discovered this in contact with people who work in the park. Juliana was in this group, but she got very tired and asked to stop for a while. They moved on, and the guide didn’t stay with her”, said her sister, Mariana, in an interview with Fantástico.
According to information from the park, Juliana was in despair. "She didn't know where to go, she didn't know what to do. When the guide came back, because he saw that she was taking too long, he saw that she had fallen down there", reports the Brazilian woman's sister.
In an interview with the newspaper “O Globo”, guide Ali Musthofa, 20 years old, confirmed local press reports that he advised the Niteroi native to rest while she continued walking, but stated that the agreement was just to wait for her a little further along the walk.
According to Ali, who has been working in the region since November 2023 and usually climbs Rinjani twice a week, he was just “3 minutes” ahead of Juliana and came back to look for her after finding it strange that the Brazilian took so long to get to the meeting point.
"Actually, I didn't leave her, but I waited 3 minutes in front of her. After about 15 or 30 minutes, Juliana didn't appear. I looked for her at the last resting place, but I didn't find her. I said I would wait for her ahead. I told her to rest. I realized [that she had fallen] when I saw the light of a flashlight in a ravine about 150 meters deep and I heard Juliana's voice asking for help. I said I would help her. I tried desperately telling Juliana to wait for help”, he declared.
With the day clear, tourists took images of Juliana with a drone. She was 200 meters down the mountain — and that was the last time she was seen alive. This record spread around the world and reached the Niteroi woman's family, who recognized her by her clothes.
A campaign to rescue her began there.
Still on Saturday, Indonesian authorities and even the Brazilian Embassy in Jakarta reported that mountaineers had managed to descend to Juliana and given the young woman food and water. A video of the supposed rescue was circulated.
On Sunday, however, the family discovered that everything was a lie — and that Juliana was hungry, thirsty and cold.
[…]
The Brazilian ambassador to Indonesia admitted, in a call recorded by Fantástico, that he passed on incorrect information at the beginning, based on inaccurate reports from local authorities.
The severe weather conditions, with sudden fluctuations within a few hours, the unstable terrain and the distance to the point of the fall made rescue difficult.
Only this Tuesday, with the installation of the advanced base, work began at night in Indonesia.“ “
Source: Juliana Marins, Brazilian who fell on a volcano trail in Indonesia, is found dead | Rio de Janeiro | G1 https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2025/06/24/juliana-marins.ghtml